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Careercow Frosk / Froskurinn / Indiana Juniper Black / Devon Ryanne Mohr - Unbangable turbo-dyke Karen, leftist SJW feminazi, professional liar, hates white men, former LoL host, current host for the G4TV 2021 Relaunch that's responsible for murdering G4TV's good name bitching over "Sexism in Gaming" that Adam Sessler cucks for.
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I get the feeling we won't be hearing too much out of her for a long while after this, except maybe some occasional reeee-ing on Twitter or Reddit.
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You know what she's not wrong I would blame everyone but herself because they were that fucking stupid to hire her in the first place.
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I skimmed through the article. It begins in the first person by the journalist describing Clownfish TV as being their Podcast and Youtube channel, so Frosk obviously had to scrape the barrel to find any journalist willing to listen to her rant. I'd never even heard of Clownfish TV up until now, probably like many others on this thread.
Anyway, here's a general breakdown for anyone not wanting to read the dullest piece of literature so far this year:
- She claims she was given promises of creative freedom and leeway, but when they moved into their studio, she and the other employees were 'undermined' by middle management. Any ideas they had had to be approved by management, and internal communication was broken.
- Frosk wanted the majority of the programming to cover individual eSports, but management wanted a 'primetime news network meets a variety show'. Effectively while she wanted to do content targeting eSports players, management wanted them to target a general audience. The company also wanted clips of G4 to go viral, keep this in mind.
- The funding was far lower than stated and the producers were constantly cost-cutting. However there were also large amounts of the studio unused, including a room of Gaming PCs and a dedicated projector screen for showing tournaments. If Frosk is to be taken at word, all the money was spent on equipment and office space and not on production.
- The staff were meant to create content for five different platforms per week. As a result Frosk and her 8-person team were asked to produce 15 hours of content per week.
- While the original G4 did short segments (with X-play been 3-5 minutes) the new G4 had long segments, with X-Play being 30 minutes and several talent brought in for hour-long talks. Adam Sessler had to fly to the studio as he didn't live in the area, meaning he had to record several hour-long discussions back to back.
- Frosk's eSports team members were fired three times, being brought back twice. Frosk claims this was Management playing 'political office games', whatever the hell those are.
- Management would also try and antagonise staff, claiming the X-Play team hated the Attack of the Show team, even though they were exactly the same team.
- Management (see a pattern?) would also not uphold contracts and threaten redundancy to get employees to do unpaid overtime.
- Frosk admits the rant damaged the company. However, the journalist thinks she isn't to blame. Frosk then goes on a long and tired explanation of how management wouldn't let the staff talk about what would be said on a planned segment on "gaming grievances". Also management and marketing supposedly decided to make the rant get as much publicity as possible to go viral. Frosk was supposedly against making the clip go viral.
- After this was a long rant repeating her grievances of the company, controlling her social media through threats, etc. etc.
- The article ends with the journalist simping for Frosk.
Basically, G4 failed because Frosk was apparently working for management straight out of a bad office sitcom.
I don't buy it - Comcast is an entertainment company and most of the management know how video production works. They would have known there were too few staff to put out that much edited content per week. In addition spending large amounts on studio and props but not enough on production makes zero sense to anyone who's even watched a TV show or movie.
Semi-PL: I edit videos I record myself, and most of the time is spent in editing. Unless Frosk was heavily involved in editing herself, I doubt her and Sessler would be working more than a 24 hour week. Especially since so much of the content was recorded in a single take vlog-style.
Anyway, here's a general breakdown for anyone not wanting to read the dullest piece of literature so far this year:
- She claims she was given promises of creative freedom and leeway, but when they moved into their studio, she and the other employees were 'undermined' by middle management. Any ideas they had had to be approved by management, and internal communication was broken.
- Frosk wanted the majority of the programming to cover individual eSports, but management wanted a 'primetime news network meets a variety show'. Effectively while she wanted to do content targeting eSports players, management wanted them to target a general audience. The company also wanted clips of G4 to go viral, keep this in mind.
- The funding was far lower than stated and the producers were constantly cost-cutting. However there were also large amounts of the studio unused, including a room of Gaming PCs and a dedicated projector screen for showing tournaments. If Frosk is to be taken at word, all the money was spent on equipment and office space and not on production.
- The staff were meant to create content for five different platforms per week. As a result Frosk and her 8-person team were asked to produce 15 hours of content per week.
- While the original G4 did short segments (with X-play been 3-5 minutes) the new G4 had long segments, with X-Play being 30 minutes and several talent brought in for hour-long talks. Adam Sessler had to fly to the studio as he didn't live in the area, meaning he had to record several hour-long discussions back to back.
- Frosk's eSports team members were fired three times, being brought back twice. Frosk claims this was Management playing 'political office games', whatever the hell those are.
- Management would also try and antagonise staff, claiming the X-Play team hated the Attack of the Show team, even though they were exactly the same team.
- Management (see a pattern?) would also not uphold contracts and threaten redundancy to get employees to do unpaid overtime.
- Frosk admits the rant damaged the company. However, the journalist thinks she isn't to blame. Frosk then goes on a long and tired explanation of how management wouldn't let the staff talk about what would be said on a planned segment on "gaming grievances". Also management and marketing supposedly decided to make the rant get as much publicity as possible to go viral. Frosk was supposedly against making the clip go viral.
- After this was a long rant repeating her grievances of the company, controlling her social media through threats, etc. etc.
- The article ends with the journalist simping for Frosk.
Basically, G4 failed because Frosk was apparently working for management straight out of a bad office sitcom.
I don't buy it - Comcast is an entertainment company and most of the management know how video production works. They would have known there were too few staff to put out that much edited content per week. In addition spending large amounts on studio and props but not enough on production makes zero sense to anyone who's even watched a TV show or movie.
Semi-PL: I edit videos I record myself, and most of the time is spent in editing. Unless Frosk was heavily involved in editing herself, I doubt her and Sessler would be working more than a 24 hour week. Especially since so much of the content was recorded in a single take vlog-style.
It's probably exagerated, but definitely believable.
We know full well why g4 originally died in the first place. It couldn't compete with newer content sources at the time.
We also know the new g4 was put together as a halfassed pet project, that may or may not have been the result of the son of a comcast exec trying to get some pussy before Olivia Munn dumped his ass.
Yes, comcast is an entertainment company and clearly has some competent management, but that doesn't mean they were working on g4tv. They also spent way more than they should have, or was necessary on that ridiculous studio of theirs. Frankly, I think they were over-staffed for the sort of content they should have been making. Frosk also likely wasn't wrong trying to do more e-sports specific stuff, as treating at least part of the air time as an ESPN for e-sports actually might have been a reasonable idea and the only unique thing they could have brought to the table.
Instead we got a general audience targeted mess, brought to cable TV for some insane reason, targeting a demographic least likely to actually bother with a TV subscription these days. Does that sound like competent management? Doesn't to me. Also I wouldn't see such a project as a talent draw within comcast to willingly lure people to want to have anything to do with it.
The crap about Frosk being against the clip going viral, management wanting it to go viral(I assume the "any publicity is good publicity" bullshit), that I don't believe at all.
As for the cost cutting, yeah that's pretty easy to imagine after their first month of viewership numbers rolled in online and from TV, which weren't absolutely abysmal but still weren't great.
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The problem with that article is that it relies upon someone with BPD to give an accurate accounting of events when their sense of self is directly tied to their perception of events. It's not just her self esteem, her whole fucking identity is wrapped up in convincing others that her version of events is the true and honest retelling of why the newest iteration of G4 failed.
If Frosk was giving an account of something she had little involvement in (both professionally and emotionally) then I might be able to take her version of events somewhat seriously. As it is, I don't just take what she says with a grain of salt, I take a shot penicillin just in case.
This bitch is out of her fucking mind and leans into the crazy. I've known BPD people who acknowledge their issues and put in the work to try and function in as close to a normal way as they can. Frosk is not like that. She revels in her mental illness and acts out, she is like a person possessed. Until someone who is not ideologically possessed (read as: not Adam Sessler or someone else as crazy as Frosk) confirms her retelling I'll just keep on not believing anything she has to say.
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Frosk's new career is designing. She's not really informative on what she designs.
Of course, but regardless of that I can still believe the management was just incredibly incompetent as so much of that is painfully obvious to anyone looking at how the thing was run regardless of Frosk's input or commentary. Even before her stupid rant, at their rate of growth it still would have taken a couple years(if not more) for them to catch up to someone like YongYea(and all he does is read other articles and tweets) all while having a marketing budget to burn through.
Even just paying for commuter flights for Sessler between SF and LA once every week or two is way above and beyond what YongYea and other gaming youtube people bother with, but still do orders or magnitude better than G4 did. And that's also ignoring that this was a 24/7 cable TV channel, that had practically no fucking content(it was half just re-airing other youtube channels, and more ninja warrior) that managed to do dead last for ratings over its run compared to 100+ other channels. Approving and attempting to run that had to be nothing but incompetent boomers since the only way that makes money is traditional commercials, that no sane people would be willing to put any serious money into since no one was watching it.
She's an insufferable bitch with BPD, but she didn't ruin the network. It was doomed from the start and all she did was accelerate its failure(and even then I doubt it was honestly by that much). They'd have been better off as a studio 1/10th that size, and just doing a couple weekly shows for some other channel if they were really so desperate to have a presence in the cable TV channel lineup.
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That's a fair point, I just wish there was an alternate source for what was going on behind the scenes at the new G4. Their content seemed to take the spaghetti method: throw a bunch of stuff at the wall and see what sticks. The Ninja Warrior reruns you mentioned. game reviews for titles that had been out for years, that live action D&D cringe-fest, they really were all over the place.
I hope someone a bit less insane will do an interview like Frosk's to shed some light on things.
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Very important point here. While you wouldn't want to be in any close relationship with a BDP, there used to be some that would semi-admit it. The one I knew though blamed her ex, so was still a lost cause. Frosk is clearly a product of the Twitter Mental Illness machine. She got all asspats for a long time for being extra nuts, and she took it to heart. Anyone looking at her and Sessler as good ideas for their leading face to the public deserves to be blacklisted from any management position for life.
I have a theory that G4 like it was may have worked in 2012-2016 time frame, at least better than it did. The outrage marketing fad wasn't totally cliche yet.
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The only eSport content I saw from Nu-X-Play was hilariously bad and it shows how ill prepared Frosk really was when it comes to producing content.
You're making a tv show for Children, Autists and Stoners. You should start with the basics. Go over the insanely well known "Evo Moment 37", pay Justin Wong $200 or whatever he'd charge for video call and have him talk about it for the 100th time. Explain why it was such a big deal that Daigo parried each attack and the skill required to do it. Download a copy of 3rd Strike and have you and your co-hosts try to Parry Chun-Li's super and overact as you fail or miraculously succeed at it. Stupid trivial content that can fill a 7 minute segment.
Don't get me wrong my idea wouldn't have saved G4 TV either, I'm sure Fighting Game Youtubers have gone over Moment 37 many times over. And G4 was doomed to fail. But if you're making a TV channel you can't come in with niche bullshit. If Frosk had even a sliver of talent she could have left the dead G4 and made decent money as a Youtuber, at least now she knows she was never cut out for this work.
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i dont know about that. esports is firmly entrenched on twitch and has zero history on TV. also, esports is a pretty niche thing with near zero appeal to people who don't play the specific game. it's not like the sportsball stuff they have on ESPN, that stuff has normie appeal. someone like me can watch a snooker match on tv without having any idea about how snooker even works, and i'll still be impressed by the precise trick shots these dudes pull off on the table.
with most big esports this is not the case. if you tune in to a pro match of a game you don't play yourself, you are completely lost, you have no idea what the fuck is going on, you can't even tell what is happening on screen, to the untrained eye it just looks like meaningless visual clutter, there's zero appeal or entertainment.
there are exceptions to this, like some racing games where even an outsider can watch and see their smooth and precise driving skills. but for big titles like dota, league or csgo it's hopeless.
tl;dr esports on tv is a shit idea in general unless it's something like starcraft in korea where one specific game has gigantic popularity
I never said it would have been successful. I just said it would have been reasonable and unique for a cable TV show. Obviously e-sports is incredibly niche(which is why there's so much business that never seems to make a dime off of it), the largest events already get livestreamed anyway, and next to no one in the demographic that regularly watches any e-sports is going to fall into the group of people paying for a cable TV subscription.
Hilariously this is evident by ESPN shitcanning it's esports division back in 2020, right when regular sports basically shut down due to covid lockdowns and crap, so it was doing so badly they weren't even willing to continue coverage of it. Which if anything should have been a huge red flag to not try and re-launch G4, but I guess the ball was already rolling too quick on it to pull the plug by that point after ESPN having played around with airing and streaming esports since 2013 or so and failing almost every time.
And they've even still left the dead page up
If you're going to waste as much money as G4 did, at the very least they could have attempted to be unique with their position at the time rather than trying to be some fake gamer variety show, and a crappy outdated format for video game coverage. They'd have probably had more success as a cable TV channel just re-launching as a network showing nothing but old COPS re-runs(there's a broader appeal to watching morons racking up misdemeanors and felonies instead of just stopping for a broken tail light than what the new g4 had to offer).
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Only way I could see a company like Comcast fucking up a new channel/ show is to write it off on their taxes.
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Still has a hate-boner against Henry Cavill.
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And here we have Frosk bitching over Hogwarts Legacy and JK Rowling on Reddit while ass-licking trans communities including the character Sirona Ryan for being trans and queer.
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As usual gay men don't exist. Just lesbians and men pretending to be lesbians.
How the fuck is she an engineer? She talked about video games. Its no wonder you were insulted all the time, you're a fucking idiot who wants to larp as an intelligent woman.
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"If you find The Last of Us HBO show boring, then you're a dumb fuck!"
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you probably thought that only fat smelly neckbeards write long confrontational rants about video games on reddit, but our girl frosk is working hard to break these outdated gender stereotypes!
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