Porn and Porncows

[Flaming Carrot]

while you can't scrub it from the whole internet, you can at least round up and execute everybody involved in its production and distribution.
drive it out of the country? great, problem locally solved.
drive it underground? keep hounding them, keep the pressure on, make it difficult for them to continue, and make them suffer when (not if) you catch them, basically treat it like cp is already treated.

Are we just killing the people who make hardcore pornography, or are also going after everyone who's ever posted a nude picture of themselves on the Internet? Are we going to shoot every woman who's ever posted for Playboy? What the amateurs who upload videos having sex with their significant others? Are we executing sysadmins at streaming services and the guys holding the boom mikes on the porn sets? Because this seems like we're going to be killing an absolutely enormous amount of people.

 

[popnloch ness monster]

Are we just killing the people who make hardcore pornography, or are also going after everyone who's ever posted a nude picture of themselves on the Internet? Are we going to shoot every woman who's ever posted for Playboy? What the amateurs who upload videos having sex with their significant others? Are we executing sysadmins at streaming services and the guys holding the boom mikes on the porn sets? Because this seems like we're going to be killing an absolutely enormous amount of people.

yes

 

[74164978231]

I'm not even surprised. The people who run the industry obviously are into it, so they just turn a blind-eye to it.


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They want you to be zombie coomer consoomers. Dont question anything just perpetually coom and consume the latest goyslop like good sheep.

Banning porn will never work, just like banning alcohol didn't work and banning prostitution doesn't work. At best, you just drive it out of the country or underground.

"You can make it illegal, but you can't make it unpopular."

People want government solutions to cultural problems which arent going to work.

The real solution is for nonlefist to stop being so accommodating to leftist and their leftist cancer. Drop the "treat others the way you want to be treated" mentality which most have in them and adopt the "treat others like they treat you mentality".

 

[DocAwe]

Banning porn will never work, just like banning alcohol didn't work and banning prostitution doesn't work. At best, you just drive it out of the country or underground.

"You can make it illegal, but you can't make it unpopular."

Yerr, You can't legislate morality.

 

[Trig.Point]

yes

From your lips to God's ears.

After they're gone, I suspect a lot of societies other problems will go with them.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

while you can't scrub it from the whole internet, you can at least round up and execute everybody involved in its production and distribution.

An insane idea that would never remotely gain traction (and would be outright unconstitutional in the United States).

drive it out of the country? great, problem locally solved.

If the whole point of targeting porn is to protect people from predation, how is driving out to third and second world countries with looser laws and less fucks to give going to help that?

drive it underground? keep hounding them, keep the pressure on, make it difficult for them to continue, and make them suffer when (not if) you catch them, basically treat it like cp is already treated.

And that has not stopped the proliferation of CP at all, as the underground market for that is very much alive and well, something even police will openly admit. Police are already struggling to police kiddie porn with their limited resources, you really think law enforcement wants to be burdened with spending its limited resources arresting consenting adults, when there are kiddie diddlers and human traffickers they can go after instead?

 

[870EVO]

And that has not stopped the proliferation of CP at all, as the underground market for that is very much alive and well, something even police will openly admit. Police are already struggling to police kiddie porn with their limited resources, you really think law enforcement wants to be burdened with spending its limited resources arresting consenting adults, when there are kiddie diddlers and human traffickers they can go after instead?

Well theres that, and the Epstein debacle, among others that were briefly exposed. Which proved at the higher levels theres an organized underaged prostitution ring. So even if you were able stamp it out among the plebs. The rich and powerful are still above the law.

 

[ZMOT]

From your lips to God's ears.

After they're gone, I suspect a lot of societies other problems will go with them.

just like prohibition fixed the 1920's and turned the decade into an utopia...

treating the symptom instead of the cause is never a road to success, same as kneejerk reactions. besides that, society consists of individuals, it's your own fucking choice to be a coomer or gooner, people need to take some responsibility. stop being retarded and blaming society or something else.

If the whole point of targeting porn is to protect people from predation, how is driving out to third and second world countries with looser laws and less fucks to give going to help that?

same countries with who deal with porn completely differently too, but the world must suffer for burger retardation I guess

 

[Flaming Carrot]

From your lips to God's ears.

After they're gone, I suspect a lot of societies other problems will go with them.

Depictions of sexual intercourse have been found among prehistoric cave paintings. Erotic photography has existed since the 1840s and filmed pornography since the 1890s. There has literally never been a time in human civilization when pornography has not existed, and there have been times when it was considerably more public that it was for. For example, archeologists excavating Pompeii found sexually explicit paintings hung on the walls of houses there.

Even if someone was to pass a law banning pornography, you would still run into the problem of defining what pornography was. Is it movies where there is explicit sexual intercourse? Simulated sexual intercourse? People simply being naked? Beer ads featuring women in bikinis?

Is a Playboy centerfold more harmful than a sexually explicit hentai manga? What about written porn? Is E.L. James to be arrested for the 50 Shades of Grey books? And is all of this somehow more harmful to society than the average murderer? If you want to get rid of pornography, you would have to get rid the Internet, cellphones, camera the printing press and pencils. So good luck with that.

 

[ANF]

Is E.L. James to be arrested for the 50 Shades of Grey books?

Yes.

 

[DumbDude43]

Yerr, You can't legislate morality.

funny how this line of thinking is applied extremely selectively.
criminalizing rape and murder and robbery has not stopped rape and muder and robbery from happening. does that mean we should just throw in the towel and stop punishing any of it? no, of course not.
similar situation would arise with banned pornography. would it completely stop existing? of course not. that does not mean the people doing it should just get away with it without repercussions.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

If the whole point of targeting porn is to protect people from predation, how is driving out to third and second world countries with looser laws and less fucks to give going to help that?

The whole point would be protecting our people from predation. Other nations and peoples can look to their own laws.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

funny how this line of thinking is applied extremely selectively.
criminalizing rape and murder and robbery has not stopped rape and muder and robbery from happening. does that mean we should just throw in the towel and stop punishing any of it? no, of course not.
similar situation would arise with banned pornography. would it completely stop existing? of course not. that does not mean the people doing it should just get away with it without repercussions.

Could you define pornography and specify exactly what is getting banned and how you would accomplish this ban?

 

[Syntaxion]

Making gossip illegal is also impossible, yet if internet companies went after pornsites with the fervor they attack kiwifarms, the entire porn industry would collapse.

 

[moocow]

Making gossip illegal is also impossible, yet if internet companies went after pornsites with the fervor they attack kiwifarms, the entire porn industry would collapse.

Not really. If internet companies did that, (((they))) would snap them back in line in short order. Porn is big business, not only financially but (as people here have already covered) socially as well. TPTB wouldn't take kindly to Big Tech trying to kill it.

 

[Trig.Point]

just like prohibition fixed the 1920's and turned the decade into an utopia...

I think what @popnloch ness monster is advocating is a wee bit more straight forward than Prohibition.. You know the way Opium use was a blight in China for nearly two centuries, then all of a sudden it wasn't anymore. I think he's aiming towards that solution, and I for one would be willing to give it a try.

 

[870EVO]

Not really. If internet companies did that, (((they))) would snap them back in line in short order. Porn is big business, not only financially but (as people here have already covered) socially as well. TPTB wouldn't take kindly to Big Tech trying to kill it.

People watch porn in every country in the world. Even in countries where the possession of hardcore porn is illegal. Now if you were the companies that had the porn browsing habits of the most powerful people in the world. What might you be able to do with such information?

I speculate due to rumors I've heard. Does mindgeek knowingly allow underage sign-ups, because it allows them more information on the tastes of their targets?

 

[moocow]

I speculate due to rumors I've heard. Does mindgeek knowingly allow underage sign-ups, because it allows them more information on the tastes of their targets?

Sure, that and money too. They're big enough to be nigh untouchable (especially given who owns them), so they undoubtedly make a mint on those underage sign-ups before they get "caught" and their accounts disabled "for safety." Notice you never hear about that little detail when an underage gets caught and banned -- who keeps the money?

 

[DocAwe]

funny how this line of thinking is applied extremely selectively.
criminalizing rape and murder and robbery has not stopped rape and muder and robbery from happening. does that mean we should just throw in the towel and stop punishing any of it? no, of course not.
similar situation would arise with banned pornography. would it completely stop existing? of course not. that does not mean the people doing it should just get away with it without repercussions.

No you don't necessarily stop punishing people for it.
My point is I believe a better approach would be to move culturally in the direction where people openly work against things like pron instead of wanting the government to grow bigger.
Being shunned by society at large can be a very powerful punishment all on it's own.
But thats just me wanting to err on the side of less government whenever possible.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

Simply banning porn producers from financial networks would absolutely cripple domestic porn producers. Mindgeek might have giant reserves of cash on hand, very few other producers/providers do.