Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
At this point I wonder what it's going to take for Luna to finally be at peace, if you know what I mean. Since I joined this thread, it's been the same thing over and over again--the idiotic selfies, the pointless therapies, the milestones that somehow no one other than Robyn can see, the narcissism, the doubling down on woo... yet, Luna still exists somewhere between life and death.
I find it hard nowadays to look at her and see a human. Yeah, she's been this way for years, but the older she gets, the more she resembles a doll than an actual human being.

As much contempt as I have for Robyn, there's a part of me that cannot help but feel for her (I know I probably should not, but I cannot help it). I'd lose my mind if I were in her shoes and and I think I would ultimately want Luna to pass. I don't know how she can be so delusional and dupe people (and herself) into believing Luna's brain is healing.

I'd just want peace for my child and my family and closure.
I suspect at some point Luna will accidentally hit her head into something, shattering it like a watermelon. Robyn will an hero instantly due to this, mostly out of rage.
 
I suspect at some point Luna will accidentally hit her head into something, shattering it like a watermelon. Robyn will an hero instantly due to this, mostly out of rage.
I don't think Luna's capable of doing that unless someone else puts her in a dangerous situation.
 
Does atlas speak at all? I dont think I have heard him yet but I dont watch every second of every video.
During their fall trip to OC for Luna, Robyn posted an IG video where I’m almost sure he said “mama”. Ive noticed he has been responding to questions from others by shaking/nodding. i think he’s right on the edge of starting to talk (but I don’t have kids so i don’t have much experience in speech development)
 
Atlas' speech is "fine". It could be better, it could be worse. He does say some words and can be seen to understand language. Atlas is ultimately isolated and would probably be farther along in speaking if he interacted with children his own age. Atlas interacting with Glenn in the garage, despite the safety hazards, is good for his overall development.

If he was at this stage at 3 years old then it would be concerning but he just turned 2 and is a very active boy with both phenomenal fine and gross motor skills. It's not uncommon for active boys such as atlas to be slow to pick up speech.
 
Atlas' speech is "fine". It could be better, it could be worse. He does say some words and can be seen to understand language. Atlas is ultimately isolated and would probably be farther along in speaking if he interacted with children his own age. Atlas interacting with Glenn in the garage, despite the safety hazards, is good for his overall development.

If he was at this stage at 3 years old then it would be concerning but he just turned 2 and is a very active boy with both phenomenal fine and gross motor skills. It's not uncommon for active boys such as atlas to be slow to pick up speech.
Agree. He’s no chatterbox but he’s not throwing up any red flags. He’d probably be further along if Robyn didn’t only use baby-talk with them. She clearly doesn’t know how to talk to children outside of the cooing baby talk you would use with an infant /water-brained non-responsive potato. And Glenn seems to interact with him physically more than verbally.
 
Agree. He’s no chatterbox but he’s not throwing up any red flags. He’d probably be further along if Robyn didn’t only use baby-talk with them. She clearly doesn’t know how to talk to children outside of the cooing baby talk you would use with an infant /water-brained non-responsive potato. And Glenn seems to interact with him physically more than verbally.
What would help Atlas at this stage would be a park with other kids, Mommy-and-me claases/get togethers (despite the name, I've seen plenty of dads at these type of events so Glenn can take Atlas out while Robyn does her thing with Luna), really anything that gets him out of the house and interacting with people other than his family. A day a week of day care or something similar would also probably do wonders as well.
 


















 
Does atlas speak at all? I dont think I have heard him yet but I dont watch every second of every video.
He seems to be acquiring language normally for his age. He could go faster if Globyn used less babytalk and more 'regular speech', but that's true for most kids.
t. took one class on neurolinguistics
 
Poor Atlas. Everyone’s time would be better spent if those ladies worked with him instead of Luna.

Also LOL at Robyn calling him her “Sue Chef” in the first video. Idc if it’s an autocorrect, your whole job is instagram check your goddamn captions before posting.
Is physical therapy even needed for her? Can Robyn not learn stretches to do to her own kid?
 
Is physical therapy even needed for her? Can Robyn not learn stretches to do to her own kid?
No, it absolutely is not. At best, Luna cannot feel what is happening and does not have the required brain function to process it, good or bad. At worst, she feels excruciating pain every time her poor little body is manipulated marionette-style by these supposed therapists. It’s torture porn as far as I’m concerned.
 
Atlas' speech is "fine". It could be better, it could be worse. He does say some words and can be seen to understand language. Atlas is ultimately isolated and would probably be farther along in speaking if he interacted with children his own age. Atlas interacting with Glenn in the garage, despite the safety hazards, is good for his overall development.

If he was at this stage at 3 years old then it would be concerning but he just turned 2 and is a very active boy with both phenomenal fine and gross motor skills. It's not uncommon for active boys such as atlas to be slow to pick up speech.

Most of the kids I know or have known of that age never stop babbling. But I knew a few that were quiet. But they grew up with normal speech. Some kids just aren't super verbal at that age. Though, if God mercifully took Luna then I think Alas would thrive more.
 
I love Atlas saying no to more yogurt. I know that stuff probably tastes like shit little buddy.

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Luna PT looking like a Rohl Dahl witch
 
No, it absolutely is not. At best, Luna cannot feel what is happening and does not have the required brain function to process it, good or bad. At worst, she feels excruciating pain every time her poor little body is manipulated marionette-style by these supposed therapists. It’s torture porn as far as I’m concerned.
I'm sure movement is good for the joints and muscles but Robyn can do that. I honestly am curious how much her monthly useless physical therapy is. And "speech" therapy.
 
To be fair, pedialyte is not recommended for babies under 12 months either unless it's given under medical supervision.
I assume that's because vomiting, diarrhea, and dehydration can be very dangerous in infants and they don't want people trying to address it at home. If your baby is vomiting or shitting enough that you think he needs Pedialyte, definitely call your pediatrician first.

Also, for those who aren't aware, honey is not recommended for infants and toddlers because of the risk of infant botulism, which is a serious and potentially fatal complication of Clostridium botulinum infection. It sounds like something from the bad old days, but babies in developed countries are still affected.

No, it absolutely is not. At best, Luna cannot feel what is happening and does not have the required brain function to process it, good or bad. At worst, she feels excruciating pain every time her poor little body is manipulated marionette-style by these supposed therapists. It’s torture porn as far as I’m concerned.
Part of me wants to point out that physical therapy is vital for maintaining musculoskeletal health even in non-ambulatory patients. Then the rest of me thinks that it doesn't fucking matter if Luna has chronic hip subluxation or low bone density. She isn't experiencing pain and it's horrible to watch them manhandle her.
 
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