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Bit of a crosspost, but great start to his forums post count eh?
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This is like some ultra pathetic parody of that "I'll start my own, with blackjack and hookers" meme.
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It's kind of like his own forum with blackjack and hookers; only blackjack, hookers, and anything fun is absolutely haram.
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Jaimas said:
You could even get in? A lot of Kiwis are apparently waiting on confirmation.
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No, I don't have an account yet. That was from the "House Rules" thread. He may be changing visibility settings since I'm seeing titles on his "Countries" subforums that weren't displaying in the screenshot somebody posted earlier.
 
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He's been thinking about this for a while. This is the idea he private messaged me about at the beginning of the year. I share you the entire chain to give you an idea of what he's trying to accomplish here:

Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
I had an idea of organizing the lol-cow forums that I think would work out very well. Rather than having the lolcow forums or lolcow wiki by default, build it on a voluntary subscription basis. Here is a rough idea of what I had in mind
If you just want to join Kiwifarms and yak on the forums, that's free like it is now.
The official supporter status that Null has set up could remain the same (a one-time payment of $20)
Subscription Levels: If you want your place among the "Kiwi Celebrities" forum, this would require a subscription and a written consent that would have some kind of release from liability. A subscription forum called "Kiwi Celebrities" would take the place of the "lowcow" forum.
If you just want to yak on the Kiwi Celebrities forum, that would still be free
If you want a custom thread with your name on it and you want to mod your own thread $10/year
If you want your own sub-forum like Christine or ADF and you want to administer it $20/year
If you want to go all out with your high weirdness and set up your own web-space or wiki and you want to administer it $30/year.
You would still be able to throw in some premium stuff such as concierge services, banners and so forth for those who wanted to donate.
Whoever wants to sign up can sign-up and whoever wants to take it down can take it down.
Insofar as Kiwifarms getting kicked off of Gandi, French law is very strict when it comes to defamation and privacy issues as well as "hate speech (i.e. mocking someone's race, religion, ethnicity, etc)". Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that penis pic was telling the whole story.
I am sure there is an untapped market of "lol-cows" who would be willing to pay a small subscription in return for having their place in the spotlight.
It's something that was on the top of my head and I thought I would run this by you privately.
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Flowers For Sonichu said:
Sorry for not getting back to you quicker, I'm really busy at work and am just here to take a mental break. I was offering to offer you help editing and giving feedback for Sonichen, but sure, I'll give you my feedback.

Here's my biggest question about this: Why would a lolcow want to do this? Most of them (Brad Watson and Strikerwolf come to mind as people who have personally approached me about it) only want their threads taken down. Most lolcows hate the attention we give them, and the very few who have enjoyed the attention are despicable individuals like Nick Bate (who seemed to get pleasure from the revulsion he caused in other people) and Rika (who has been banned from here for being annoying).

No. 2. I don't think giving them mod powers is a good idea, it would allow them to delete any post that they don't like. I'm sure if you had control of your thread, you would delete statements by @cat @yawning sneasel and @Peace and Harmony if you could.

Finally, I think this would lead to people doing fake spergouts or creating another Jace so they can get attention and then turn around and be like "haha I trolled you all!"

As far as the whole getting kicked off the servers, I think it's simply because we were only on there a couple days and were already getting complaints from Dexter and simply didn't want to deal with the headache.
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Kenneth Erwin Engelhardt said:
Why would a lolcow want to do this? Most of them (Brad Watson and Strikerwolf come to mind as people who have personally approached me about it) only want their threads taken down.
That's true. But a big part of it may be due to the fact that they felt violated and had no say in the matter. But if they come to you voluntarily, it's a different. Then they might see it as a chance to be a celebrity with a fan site. There's a market for people who want their place in the spotlight.
I don't think giving them mod powers is a good idea, it would allow them to delete any post that they don't like. I'm sure if you had control of your thread, you would delete statements by @cat@yawning sneasel and @Peace and Harmony if you could.
You have mentioned about mod powers in the threads. One way around that is to have two sets of threads. The first set would be the custom threads that I mentioned that would be "lolcow moderated" These would be public.
The second set would be the traditional lolcow threads that would not be moderated. The traditional lolcow threads would be a private forum in the same category as the top secret inner circle or supporter threads. The fact that you might also have a thread made about you would be part of the informed consent. It's simply part of the Kiwifarms environment. At the same time there would be assurances that these threads are private.
There are two advantages with informed consent:
First, the milk is always richer when it is voluntary because lol-cows are less likely to feel violated.
Second, there is some protection against being kicked off the server if the person gave his/her voluntary consent and knew in advance that this is simply part of the environment
Finally, I think this would lead to people doing fake spergouts or creating another Jace so they can get attention and then turn around and be like "haha I trolled you all!"
If it's a celebrity thread (fan thread) it's not going to make any difference if it's a fictional character. Fan feedback might even add things of value to the fictional persona. It's a role-playing thing. It's partially akin to the personas of the WWE.
As far as the whole getting kicked off the servers, I think it's simply because we were only on there a couple days and were already getting complaints from Dexter and simply didn't want to deal with the headache.
Maybe this was the case but keep in mind Kiwifarms was also kicked off Linode as well.
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Flowers For Sonichu said:
I still don't understand why people would want the negative attention we give them. The only lolcow that was relatively liked was Jace before the reveal, and when everyone found out he was fake and he tried to keep it going it got cringeworthy and lead to the bloodletting with a bunch of sycophants trying to curry Jan and Rob's favor. You could try and take this idea to Null if you want to, I just don't think it's a good idea.
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I had an idea of organizing the lol-cow forums that I think would work out very well. Rather than having the lolcow forums or lolcow wiki by default, build it on a voluntary subscription basis. Here is a rough idea of what I had in mind
If you just want to join Kiwifarms and yak on the forums, that's free like it is now.
The official supporter status that Null has set up could remain the same (a one-time payment of $20)
Subscription Levels: If you want your place among the "Kiwi Celebrities" forum, this would require a subscription and a written consent that would have some kind of release from liability. A subscription forum called "Kiwi Celebrities" would take the place of the "lowcow" forum.
If you just want to yak on the Kiwi Celebrities forum, that would still be free
If you want a custom thread with your name on it and you want to mod your own thread $10/year
If you want your own sub-forum like Christine or ADF and you want to administer it $20/year
If you want to go all out with your high weirdness and set up your own web-space or wiki and you want to administer it $30/year.
You would still be able to throw in some premium stuff such as concierge services, banners and so forth for those who wanted to donate.
Whoever wants to sign up can sign-up and whoever wants to take it down can take it down.
Insofar as Kiwifarms getting kicked off of Gandi, French law is very strict when it comes to defamation and privacy issues as well as "hate speech (i.e. mocking someone's race, religion, ethnicity, etc)". Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think that penis pic was telling the whole story.
I am sure there is an untapped market of "lol-cows" who would be willing to pay a small subscription in return for having their place in the spotlight.
It's something that was on the top of my head and I thought I would run this by you privately.
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...so basically he's trying to create his own Kiwifarms that requires the content to actually pay to exist as threads and shit in an inmates running the asylum type shithole?

Given the reputation of the Farms is just a bunch of people who do such horrible crimes against humanity such as pointing and laughing at stupid people online, why would people pay to allow themselves to be mocked openly online?
 
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Flowers For Sonichu said:
He's been thinking about this for a while. This is the idea he private messaged me about at the beginning of the year. I share you the entire chain to give you an idea of what he's trying to accomplish here:
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Kengle seems to be oblivious of the fact that he is a lolcow in his own right. Or is he really trying to outsmart the farms?

Damn, that nigga is so clueless, yo.
 
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Lol at proposing that there is an 'untapped market', articulating a business plan and attempting to monetize lolcows, of all things.

I think it's not so much this dude is clueless as he is purely 100% deluded, he's living in a fantasy land
The atsimu flows heavy.
 
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Lol at proposing that there is an 'untapped market', articulating a business plan and attempting to monetize lolcows, of all things.

I think it's not so much this dude is clueless as he is purely 100% deluded, he's living in a fantasy land
The atsimu flows heavy.
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The only people who can monetize lolcows are anime studios and children's video game companies and that's only if the lolcow has a tugboat handy.
 
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Wait, so opposed to having my lolcow shit up here for free I could PAY KENGLE to be a lolcow?

Hmm... I'll have to think about this... Well..

No.

You have some that get immunity from trolling like Jennfer because they are so nice. Most lolcows woulden't be lolcows if they didn't chimp out at the slightest provication, like being rated ISLAMIC CONTENT for instance

Source: A Lolcow.
 
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