Disney Adults / Disneymania

and you've spent the day standing in hour long lines, waiting for minute long rides with struggling actors and creepy mascots staring at you.
Something I've been thinking about when watching videos of these Disney adults is "The poor actors." It's one thing having to walk around the park all day in a big mascot suit or princess dress when it's super hot outside. It's another thing when you have childless wine aunts and Soyface McGee harassing you at the same time.

Not sure how it is now, but I bet when these people first took the jobs, they were thinking, "I can't wait to make some kids smile! :)" Instead, they get 30-year-old women and autistic men who want to be treated like children.

I can't help but think of when a MtF did meet-n-greets with the Disney Princesses to "validate" his gender. I think there's a post on it in the Tranny Sideshows thread but I can only find the A&N post atm. This is an extreme example of what I'm talking about, but I imagine there are plenty more creeps the character actors are forced to interact with. I consider the obsessive Disney Adults incredibly fucking creepy. If I was one of the actors, I don't know how I would stop myself from cringing in their faces.
 
Something I've been thinking about when watching videos of these Disney adults is "The poor actors." It's one thing having to walk around the park all day in a big mascot suit or princess dress when it's super hot outside. It's another thing when you have childless wine aunts and Soyface McGee harassing you at the same time.

Not sure how it is now, but I bet when these people first took the jobs, they were thinking, "I can't wait to make some kids smile! :)" Instead, they get 30-year-old women and autistic men who want to be treated like children.

I can't help but think of when a MtF did meet-n-greets with the Disney Princesses to "validate" his gender. I think there's a post on it in the Tranny Sideshows thread but I can only find the A&N post atm. This is an extreme example of what I'm talking about, but I imagine there are plenty more creeps the character actors are forced to interact with. I consider the obsessive Disney Adults incredibly fucking creepy. If I was one of the actors, I don't know how I would stop myself from cringing in their faces.
iirc chicks perv on Gaston a lot
 
Something I've been thinking about when watching videos of these Disney adults is "The poor actors." It's one thing having to walk around the park all day in a big mascot suit or princess dress when it's super hot outside. It's another thing when you have childless wine aunts and Soyface McGee harassing you at the same time.

Not sure how it is now, but I bet when these people first took the jobs, they were thinking, "I can't wait to make some kids smile! :)" Instead, they get 30-year-old women and autistic men who want to be treated like children.

I can't help but think of when a MtF did meet-n-greets with the Disney Princesses to "validate" his gender. I think there's a post on it in the Tranny Sideshows thread but I can only find the A&N post atm. This is an extreme example of what I'm talking about, but I imagine there are plenty more creeps the character actors are forced to interact with. I consider the obsessive Disney Adults incredibly fucking creepy. If I was one of the actors, I don't know how I would stop myself from cringing in their faces.
>Elsa says you can be anything you want
>a princess
>a queen
>a king
>a king

Based TERF Elsa?

Are the actors Disney adults who "made it to the big leagues" or like you said, people who just wanted to make kids smile and now they're wondering where it all went wrong?
 
Still nicer than the shit they build today.

But Disney was always giving you the "Disney" version of something, ie a corporate facsimile rather than the real authentic thing, that used to be part of the charm, giving the middle class a taste of the good life, a chance to get a sampling of a wide variety of things in the world all from the safety of a tightly controlled place in central Florida!

Most people can't be globe trotters, WDW tries to give you the next best thing.

At least that was the idea before they started pricing out the middle class.

Obviously Eisner was greedy in his own way, that's never been a secret, but he was still preferable to now.

Michael Eisner's tenure at Disney is nearly identical to Jim Shooter's tenure at Marvel. Both were greedy and micromanaging yes but they took an established company which had fallen into disarray and turned it around. I think Eisner was more of a failure in terms of money lost, while both men were obessed with copying the competition.

If you look at Disney adults many of them have a huge fondness for Eisner and while that partially may be due to pure nostalgia I think it also has to do with the fact that under Eisner's reign was the last time Disney was actually creative on its own. Under him was the Disney renaissance which was Disney's last major hit on its own (both Pixar and Marvel are external companies bought by Disney). Really once you get past the Walt era and the Disney renaissance what else does Disney have of its own to pimp out? Its just stuck holding the nostalgia of other properties hostage. In terms of the parks Animal Kingdom is a Disney Parks classic while the marvel and star wars editions feel entirely like cheap ad ons to the park. In some ways Eisner was the beginning of the end as that's when Disney began trying to eat up the whole entertainment world by copying its competitors rather then just staying in the niche Walt carved out for the brand.
 
Something I've been thinking about when watching videos of these Disney adults is "The poor actors." It's one thing having to walk around the park all day in a big mascot suit or princess dress when it's super hot outside. It's another thing when you have childless wine aunts and Soyface McGee harassing you at the same time.

Not sure how it is now, but I bet when these people first took the jobs, they were thinking, "I can't wait to make some kids smile! :)" Instead, they get 30-year-old women and autistic men who want to be treated like children.
One thing I learned from reading some Reddit threads from Disney employees is that the women dressed as princesses get sexually harassed morning, noon, and night. And they have to stay in character, so they can't complain. One of the women who played Tinkerbell said that guys would grab her ass while she taking pictures with them and their families. She said she would say "Oooh, looks like you found some fairy dust under my skirt," really loudly to embarrass them.

And it's not even just women. They had to stop meet and greets with Jack Sparrow because of all the women saying really inappropriate things to the guy even while there were kids around. I don't know if people are sexually harassing Donald Duck, and I don't want to know.
 
One thing I learned from reading some Reddit threads from Disney employees is that the women dressed as princesses get sexually harassed morning, noon, and night. And they have to stay in character, so they can't complain. One of the women who played Tinkerbell said that guys would grab her ass while she taking pictures with them and their families. She said she would say "Oooh, looks like you found some fairy dust under my skirt," really loudly to embarrass them.

And it's not even just women. They had to stop meet and greets with Jack Sparrow because of all the women saying really inappropriate things to the guy even while there were kids around. I don't know if people are sexually harassing Donald Duck, and I don't want to know.
You can achieve a critical mass where basically all the fetishes are covered and all you need to that get out is some booze or dehydration. Furry lust for a famous temperamental duck is a low standard.
 
What even are the appeal of Disney parks? Sad, little fake towns and sad, little fake worlds? For kids with hyperactive imaginations, these parks are the biggest disappointment. You want to immerse yourself into Neverland, feel the cool breeze, hike through a forest with adventure in your heart? Well, it's 34 degrees outside (93 for burgers) with 76% humidity, you've eaten nothing but sugary garbage, and you've spent the day standing in hour long lines, waiting for minute long rides with struggling actors and creepy mascots staring at you. In other words, fuck you.

Same goes for weight as well. Slight pl but as a youngster I was tall enough for the rides, but I was also really scrawny and my ass was sorer than a misbehaving Catholic schoolboy's because the G force would lift me out of my seat and then slam me back down.
The appeal is moments like when I was 7 going from the hot, humid Florida heat to the ice cold, dank and dusty entrance of the Haunted Mansion and truly feeling like I had entered a haunted place or being bored waiting in the jungle cruise line, yeah, but fascinated as I watched the boats taking off and wondering what was out there and not being disappointed when I got onboard or the feeling in Pirates of The Caribbean that if I stepped out of the boat there would be a whole colonial village to explore.

It either works for you or it doesn't you really overlook some of the lesser aspects for those transcendent moments that are what sticks with you over the years, not the lines.

Though on a side note, most of the times we went when I was a kid were in 2000 and 2001 when they had just introduced the fastpass system which worked like a charm originally, so that mitigated the waiting in lines.

I have been thoroughly entertained/mystified/horrified by this thread. This a perfect demonstration of the childless, refusal to be an adult culture that is in the process of destroying what little is left of our people.

We were treated to a Disney trip by friends of our family back in April of 2017 and took our two oldest daughters, they were young and loved it and I was happy to see their excitement there. We stayed at a massive house with a pool and did not pay for a thing and it was a great trip. Even then I was horrified by what the cost of the trip would have been had we had to pay. It has gotten even more expensive now. We would never go back as we prefer trips to natural locations away from the general public over theme parks.

At the time I was impressed at how well run the place was and how the staff made extra effort to make little girls feel the magic of the whole thing. I was also pleasantly surprised to see how un-diverse the crowd was, it appears alot of this has changed now. Early 2017 was before peak clown world had arrived so much of this insanity and tick tock videos didnt even exist then.

The only other time I had been to DW was when I was 5 years old and much of the things I remembered were still there so that was neat, I understand very much has been changed since 2017.

The point of all of this is my joy from that trip was seeing my young children's happiness. Fat adults shoving children out of the way to see a man in a costume is beyond pathetic.

I will add one interesting note about the whole thing, yes DW is fake, but it was always supposed to be. Walt Disney (who was a man of honor by all accounts) created the parks with his daughters in mind to create an idealized traditional American/Western setting to be insulated from the garbage of the real world. It is interesting that the garbage of the real world has now taken over and transformed the parks including erasing traditional America/Western aspects in recent years.

I always say that I can prove ghosts dont exist simply by the fact that Walt has not come back from the great beyond as a ghost to destroy what disney has now become.
There's a reason you keep saying 2017, since then America has been rocked by a series of mass hysterias that ruined our society and culture.

The first was TDS, the second #MeToo, the third Covid, the fourth George Floyd and the fifth Jan 6, all combing to turn people into hysterical retards that have lost all semblance of reality.

Covid alone has fucked us up good, has fucked people's mental wellbeing, I think this is why we've seen this crazy hysteria over the Disney parks is for the first time in their history they were closed for an extended period of time and people have been going in droves to try to recapture the feeling of life pre-Covid.

Like I said, hysteria is the word, large amounts of people have become hysterical and that's manifested in bizarre ways, that's one difference between a Disney fan a decade ago and a "Disney adult" today.

Michael Eisner's tenure at Disney is nearly identical to Jim Shooter's tenure at Marvel. Both were greedy and micromanaging yes but they took an established company which had fallen into disarray and turned it around. I think Eisner was more of a failure in terms of money lost, while both men were obessed with copying the competition.

If you look at Disney adults many of them have a huge fondness for Eisner and while that partially may be due to pure nostalgia I think it also has to do with the fact that under Eisner's reign was the last time Disney was actually creative on its own. Under him was the Disney renaissance which was Disney's last major hit on its own (both Pixar and Marvel are external companies bought by Disney). Really once you get past the Walt era and the Disney renaissance what else does Disney have of its own to pimp out? Its just stuck holding the nostalgia of other properties hostage. In terms of the parks Animal Kingdom is a Disney Parks classic while the marvel and star wars editions feel entirely like cheap ad ons to the park. In some ways Eisner was the beginning of the end as that's when Disney began trying to eat up the whole entertainment world by copying its competitors rather then just staying in the niche Walt carved out for the brand.
Eisner had his fingers in a lot of pies, but he was still very protective of the "Disney" brand and would keep other things like the Touchstone movie The Rock clearly separated in marketing.

Meanwhile today Disney wants you to associate Marvel and Star Wars as heavily with Disney as a princess or Mickey Mouse, which maybe could work in theory with Star Wars as SW has had a presence in the parks since 1987 and tonally is kind of in keeping in like with "Disney", at least the OT is.

However there was absolutely nothing "Disney" about Marvel, Walt probably thought Marvel comics were dumb, Marvel used to peddle in a lot edgier content, sexy girls, more intense action and violence, if anything Marvel was what a kid would upgrade to when he was getting a little old for Disney.

There is zero connecting tissue between Marvel and Disney thematically and tonally, in trying to brute force that all they've done is watered Marvel the fuck down and diluted the Disney name in turn.
 
I just realized no one has brought up some classic tumblr cringe!
Basically in the pre Dashcon era teens were obsessing over various character Peter Pan actors at the parks. The videos of them trying to stay in character while telling teen girls to fuck off is some of the hardest shit I’ve tried to watch in recent memory.
 
Pure virtue signaling. Every kid tried to get onto a ride they weren't tall enough too at some point. If being 2 inches under the height requirement is the difference between life and death then the engineers fucked up. Yeah the parents should probably take the warnings seriously but trying to make the parents out to be abusers and making a news cycle out of it is fucking retarded.
Your height can actually decrease throughout the day. Your spine is basically a stack of bone discs with jelly discs between them. Those jelly discs compress as the day goes on and you get ever so slightly shorter. I worked at an amusement park that would measure your kid in the morning and give them a colored wristband to indicate their height. That wristband let them on rides that they might be ever so slightly too short to ride later in the day.

The difference between the beginning and end of the day isn't massive, typically less than an inch. But you needed that wristband to get on that ride. If you don't have it and you're not tall enough, you're not getting on. Amusement parks take safety seriously. IROC (International Ride Operator Certification) exists for a reason. It's not just something parks are held to. Staff are tested and certified to operate rides.

eta: a couple of inches on a 6yo isn't the same as a couple of inches on a 16yo. The restraints for most rides aren't adjustable. If you're too short (or tall) to sit properly in the restraints, you could be seriously injured. Some parks have miniature versions of popular rides for little kids to ride.
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Being "a few inches" too short for something like a tower ride could result in the restraints not being able to keep the rider safely in place and getting the person fucking killed.
 
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Your height can actually decrease throughout the day. Your spine is basically a stack of bone discs with jelly discs between them. Those jelly discs compress as the day goes on and you get ever so slightly shorter. I worked at an amusement park that would measure your kid in the morning and give them a colored wristband to indicate their height. That wristband let them on rides that they might be ever so slightly too short to ride later in the day.

The difference between the beginning and end of the day isn't massive, typically less than an inch. But you needed that wristband to get on that ride. If you don't have it and you're not tall enough, you're not getting on. Amusement parks take safety seriously. IROC (International Ride Operator Certification) exists for a reason. It's not just something parks are held to. Staff are tested and certified to operate rides.

eta: a couple of inches on a 6yo isn't the same as a couple of inches on a 16yo. The restraints for most rides aren't adjustable. If you're too short (or tall) to sit properly in the restraints, you could be seriously injured. Some parks have miniature versions of popular rides for little kids to ride.
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Being "a few inches" too short for something like a tower ride could result in the restraints not being able to keep the rider safely in place and getting the person fucking killed.
Yeah I’ve seen them make those drop rides for kids too young to go on them and the children seem to love them!
Has the thread talked about any Disney ride fatalities yet? The Roger Rabbit incident is pretty heartbreaking.
 
Yeah I’ve seen them make those drop rides for kids too young to go on them and the children seem to love them!
Has the thread talked about any Disney ride fatalities yet? The Roger Rabbit incident is pretty heartbreaking.
I can guarantee you that if there are any Disney ride fatalities, there is a guest at fault. Be it the injured party or another guest entirely, there is a guest at fault. That's not me trying to defend Disney. I just can't overstate the importance of safety in amusement parks. The park I worked at is nowhere near the size of even 1 Disney park and daily safety checks of every ride was extensive. There were multiple safety checks before each and every ride cycle. I just can't imagine the mouse letting even the slightest bit of complacency slide.
 
I'm a theme park nerd in and that I love the theatrically and the practical effects and design elements. Theming is something that Disney is historically very adept at due to their seemingly unlimited budget and I like watching ride videos and learning about the imagineering and history. The creativity and attention to detail that goes in to every little thing in the parks is fascinating. But, as was brought up earlier itt, it's inevitably a disappointment as you imagine it as a dreamland and then it's hot and sticky and there are way too many people.

What I don't understand is places like Disneyland Paris. I know it's by far their least commercially successful park and is generally regarded as the redheaded step child of the parks division of the company but when I was at university I had classmates (mostly American tbf) who went every single weekend and to all the special events. The brain rot is so strong that they'd rather spend whatever money for a pass, food for the day, and sometimes even a hotel on property when they already lived in a place so many people dream of exploring and visiting. The ungrateful privilege was galling.

I understand the tourists who come specifically for Disney even less. Fuck the Ratatouille ride go and eat some delicious duck confit at a bistro with a view of the Seine or something. Or even just go walk around the touristy arrondisements and look at things - go see the fucking eiffel tower. It's literally a 45 minute train ride away.
(But *gasp* that's the real world and they can't handle that and comes, as things in paris do and things in disneyland do not, with dog shit and cigarette smoke and people who might be rude. The horror is unending.)
I went once. Took myself as a graduation present and had such a good time my cheeks hurt from smiling by the end.
But a lot of it was in disrepair and some things were actually visibly broken (strange bare-metal machinery in the Alice in Wonderland maze that I think used to be card soldiers but were just a safety hazard being the most memorable). I feel like Disney has kind of written it off as a property and just don't keep it to "Disney standard". If the whole point of going to a park is to experience the "Disney magic" they're really blowing it.
 
This is the Roger Rabbit Incident. It seems the mother bent over to pick something up and he fell out of the ride.

The big thing about this incident was the refusal to call 911 right away when a child had been crushed under a car.

Looking through incident reports it seems there were a few times that Disney injury/death was deemed due to ride maintence and safety issues.
  • Disney Land
    • Big Thunder Mountain Railroad had a derailment in 2003 due to poor maintenance causing the ride's axle to break killing a man.
    • OSHA case in 1998 for improper training leading to death of park guest on one of the ferries.
  • Disney World
    • Monorail incident is pretty well known where there was an error on the part of the controller causing them to not switch tracks and rearend another monorail resulting in a controllers death.
    • In 2007 there was a cast member death due to another OSHA violation where there were no safety rails around a rollercoaster area.
Out of the 100s of incidents in just Disney a vast majority were of people ignoring safety rules. Most are due to people unbuckling restraints or standing up and doing stupid shit like trying to jump between ride cars. And then there's incident with the two people SWIMMING to the abandoned discovery island and drowning. And sadly a lot of people decide to commit suicide at Disney in front of children. The rest are pre-existing conditions,

What I was not expecting looking into this was that I'd read about in-ride molestation incidents...One of the accidents involved a child being molested on a ride by a stranger on Test Track DURING the ride.
 
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