Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

after all that tat, time for a bit of tit
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The latest information about the situation in the Bakhmut direction:​
The city is littered with the bodies of the Ukrainian military, destroyed during the fighting. "Musicians"showed a new batch of corpses of Ukrainian soldiers. The corpses are actively collected by the Wagner evacuation team for transfer to Ukraine. https://t.me/ZandVchannel/53854
Obviously these are corpses of Wagner troops dressed up in Ukrainian uniforms for the purposes of making demoralizing propaganda videos.

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Here's a video a member of a TG chat made and posted regarding the history of Ukrainian Nazi/Banderites; it's not new. https://t.me/putingers_cat_chat/4275/45479



It's important to always remember the same people that call you Nazi for voting contrary to their interests willingly, financially and enthusiastically support literal Nazis in Ukraine because it advances their interests.
 
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It's important to always remember the same people that call you Nazi for voting contrary to their interests willingly, financially and enthusiastically support literal Nazis in Ukraine because it advances their interests.
A thousand times, this.

If you don't understand this sentence and its implications, keep reading it over and over again until you do.

When you achieve illumination, alter your life course accordingly.
 
Well those could be for Ukraine. those 2 systems are not that useful to take over transnistrtia.
Yeah, very doubtful. The moment NATO tries for transnistria. Tactical nukes become an option for Russia. And well not very likely NATO will want to play tit for tat for Romania of all countries. Even if it would spell end of NATO.
 

Wellp.

Mark Levin in his monologue video that I posted yesterday, was claiming Putler's number 2 (Medvedev probably) was going to push into Poland and Romania next.

after all that tat, time for a bit of tit
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Seems like the Saudis and Iranians are patching things up.


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And some diagram on how Rossoya has been dodging the sanctions of doom.


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Yeah but they didn't mention in the video the extent of it and I don't know. Do you know if it's such a default that it will also be a part of what Abrams will be going to Ukraine?

they are getting the janky, stripped down version without the magic underwear depleted uranium inserts, if they are getting them at all because the abrams promise was just a pump fake to get euros to send their tanks
 
New York Times (alongside many other newspapers in every country including Asharq Al-Awsat, Straits Times, Flipboard) published a opinion piece by a Cold War historian saying that the Ukraine war may be heading for a Cease-Fire, specifically citing similarities to the Korean War

Well he isn't wrong, most conflicts end in negotiated settlement, its why Clausewitz declared that war was another form of diplomacy. Hell, even US involvement in Vietnam ended in a cease fire, only the North Vietnam government broke the terms the moment the US had enough inertia during withdrawal that it could not be halted. Same with Trump negotiating a cease fire with the Taliban to get the US out of the country. The notion that war has to be run down to unconditional surrender and the opposition state destroyed is erroneous, likely due to the propaganda required to get Republics to fight wars, Nazi Germany being fully destroyed in the way it was is a unique event in history, and not one that should be repeated.

Ukraine faces two options here, settlement now or settlement when they've lost even more, its a bitter pill to swallow and one that NATO is trying to prevent Ukraine from doing. Ukraine's "Allies" do not have its best interests at heart, the US and UK want to use Ukraine to bludgeon Russia as hard as possible. Russia's terms weren't even bad for Ukraine, just stay out of NATO and stop attacking the separatist regions, and return fully to the Minsk agreements, it was such a light offer that Ukraine were fools to not accept. At this point I see Russia annexing land to the Oskal River, Zaporizhia and Kherson oblasts on the east side of the Dneiper river, along with Donetsk and Lughansk to their constitutional borders, this is what I view as the minimum Russian offer at this point.

I don't see any sort of change in Ukraine's fortune coming up either, just more of the slow grind. These western wunderwaffen will be trapped and destroyed by the same conditions that destroyed their Soviet counterparts. Once Bahkmut is fully encircled and captured, a process that will probably take until May we'll probably see Russia drive to the borders of the Donetsk oblast and then we have zero idea what will happen. Perhaps the Russians themselves do not know what will happen beyond full "liberation" of the DPR and LPR.
 
Here's a video a member of a TG chat made and posted regarding the history of Ukrainian Nazi/Banderites; it's not new. https://t.me/putingers_cat_chat/4275/45479

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It's important to always remember the same people that call you Nazi for voting contrary to their interests willingly, financially and enthusiastically support literal Nazis in Ukraine because it advances their interests.
I'm not a NATO fan but that last part just sounds like complete boomer-tier DR3 nonsense.
Obviously these are corpses of Wagner troops dressed up in Ukrainian uniforms for the purposes of making demoralizing propaganda videos.

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Based.
 
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I accidentally went to the other Russia War thread to look for news, but it's literally just users REEEEing about this thread. I dunno, this thread seems pretty neutral compared to some of the telegram groups my Balkan friends are in.
Seeing as how most of that thread are outcasts from the "Only akshual FACTS allowed!" thread, it's not surprising. Another forum I frequent does the same thing. The more "this war is bullshit" thread is more free form and anything can be discussed. The "FACTS" thread is for, well, only things sourced from NATO think tanks or totally "that happened, 1st hand" sources that all just happen to be Ukraine-aligned.
 
Well he isn't wrong, most conflicts end in negotiated settlement, its why Clausewitz declared that war was another form of diplomacy. Hell, even US involvement in Vietnam ended in a cease fire, only the North Vietnam government broke the terms the moment the US had enough inertia during withdrawal that it could not be halted. Same with Trump negotiating a cease fire with the Taliban to get the US out of the country. The notion that war has to be run down to unconditional surrender and the opposition state destroyed is erroneous, likely due to the propaganda required to get Republics to fight wars, Nazi Germany being fully destroyed in the way it was is a unique event in history, and not one that should be repeated.

Ukraine faces two options here, settlement now or settlement when they've lost even more, its a bitter pill to swallow and one that NATO is trying to prevent Ukraine from doing. Ukraine's "Allies" do not have its best interests at heart, the US and UK want to use Ukraine to bludgeon Russia as hard as possible. Russia's terms weren't even bad for Ukraine, just stay out of NATO and stop attacking the separatist regions, and return fully to the Minsk agreements, it was such a light offer that Ukraine were fools to not accept. At this point I see Russia annexing land to the Oskal River, Zaporizhia and Kherson oblasts on the east side of the Dneiper river, along with Donetsk and Lughansk to their constitutional borders, this is what I view as the minimum Russian offer at this point.

I don't see any sort of change in Ukraine's fortune coming up either, just more of the slow grind. These western wunderwaffen will be trapped and destroyed by the same conditions that destroyed their Soviet counterparts. Once Bahkmut is fully encircled and captured, a process that will probably take until May we'll probably see Russia drive to the borders of the Donetsk oblast and then we have zero idea what will happen. Perhaps the Russians themselves do not know what will happen beyond full "liberation" of the DPR and LPR.

Except the ukies already played the "negotiation" card away twice in this conflict - signing the minsk agreement in a bad faith and the turkish negotiations, that they used to borrow time.
Putin must be nuts to trust the west to keep to any agreement the moment the russian army gets out of UA.
 
People, didn't you learn from the last bear incident? If you keep feeding them, they won't leave. They'll keep hanging around asking for more handouts, then when they get nothing they'll get all aggro.

United States has committed to provide Ukraine with more than $10 billion by September. In addition, the United States supports Ukraine in its rapid recovery. Namely, they have allocated $1.5 billion for this purpose, and another $1.1 billion to support the rapid recovery of the energy sector of Ukraine and Moldova - Ukrainian Prime Minister

Some kino, UR-77 using its mine clearing charge to destroy Ukrainian fortifications near Kremennaya.

https://t.me/vorposte/36139

Curious about the UR-77 Meteorit? It's been making NATO seethe going back all the way to Syria, where it was used as a city block removal system.
 
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