The Sacred Cow of Homosexuality - lmao i'm gonna get so much shit for this

[Ser Prize]

I'm just in shock that gay men in first world countries are still getting HIV and even full blow AIDS. I follow a lot of left leaning blogs and even there, people are still shocked despite with advances like ''prep'' (a medication to prevent HIV) and years of education on AIDS prevention that they're still getting infected and not listening to advice over safe sex. They still don't give a fuck, do they?

They have never cared, and that's not even getting in to the ones who enjoy spreading disease.

 

[Catler]

I'm just in shock that gay men in first world countries are still getting HIV and even full blow AIDS. I follow a lot of left leaning blogs and even there, people are still shocked despite with advances like ''prep'' (a medication to prevent HIV) and years of education on AIDS prevention that they're still getting infected and not listening to advice over safe sex. They still don't give a fuck, do they?

This is a human thing, not a gay thing. Humans are on average fucking retarded apes.

If straight people didn’t have the huge risk of babies, they wouldn’t use protection and even that doesn’t make a lot of them use it. Likewise, if woman were as thirty as men there’d be society wide, endless, fuck fest regardless of consequences.

People largely don’t have more than five minutes of foresight. If they did they wouldn’t be fat, sick, or addicted to drugs, they wouldn’t drink and drive, they wouldn’t have stupid preventable accidents, and they wouldn’t end up in jail so often.

Lefties think humans are smarter than they are, they assume people will do better if they’re just educated a bit more. That isn’t true, most people are helpless idiots and a danger to themselves.

Need proof of this? Just look at how COVID went.

 

[Ser Prize]

This is a human thing, not a gay thing. Humans are on average fucking retarded apes.

If straight people didn’t have the huge risk of babies, they wouldn’t use protection and even that doesn’t make a lot of them use it. Likewise, if woman were as thirty as men there’d be society wide, endless, fuck fest regardless of consequences.

People largely don’t have more than five minutes of foresight. If they did they wouldn’t be fat, sick, or addicted to drugs, they wouldn’t drink and drive, they wouldn’t have stupid preventable accidents, and they wouldn’t end up in jail so often.

Lefties think humans are smarter than they are, they assume people will do better if they’re just educated a bit more. That isn’t true, most people are helpless idiots and a danger to themselves.

Need proof of this? Just look at how COVID went.

That's bullshit. Look at the sheer rates of promiscuity in the gay community. It does not line up at all with how straight people behave.

 

[Catler]

That's bullshit. Look at the sheer rates of promiscuity in the gay community. It does not line up at all with how straight people behave.

Way to miss my point entirely. Straight men would behave that way, but straight women aren’t up for it. Straight women are what limit men, not the men themselves.

So you get a bunch of guys who enjoy fucking other guys and guess what? You get all the male sexuality with none of the limiting factors.

 

[Ser Prize]

Way to miss my point entirely. Straight men would behave that way, but straight women aren’t up for it. Straight women are what limit men, not the men themselves.

So you get a bunch of guys who enjoy fucking other guys and guess what? You get all the male sexuality with none of the limiting factors.

Straight men would not have upwards of thousands of partners and be constantly cheating on their SOs. That is a cope.

 

[Bani]

Way to miss my point entirely. Straight men would behave that way, but straight women aren’t up for it. Straight women are what limit men, not the men themselves.

So you get a bunch of guys who enjoy fucking other guys and guess what? You get all the male sexuality with none of the limiting factors.

This. If women were as unscrupulous as men are, straight men would be just as promiscuous as gay men. There's a reason why "bed death," and "U-Haul on the first date," are common jokes about lesbians. Very generally, women are more likely to value commitment, and men are more likely to value sex, and each uses one as a means of getting the other. I'm not normally one to pull the evopsy card, but when you consider the physiological risk pregnancy poses to women, it's not surprising that they've become the more selective sex. This is compounded by varying cultural values conflating a woman's chastity with her worth.

Remove women from the equation, and the result is going to be an uptick in casual sex.

Straight men would not have upwards of thousands of partners and be constantly cheating on their SOs. That is a cope.

What's your point of reference here? Lemmy Kilmister? Only about a fifth of people have cheated on their significant other, and only a tiny percentage of people have "thousands of partners." That percentage being men with lots of fame or money, who women are obviously going to be more unscrupulous with. It's an example of the exact point Catler was making; if straight men were able to, they'd absolutely be as promiscuous as gay men, but because they're courting women (the more selective sex) and not other men, they're not typically able to unless they're rich and/or famous.

Also this entire thread is full of long-debunked urban myths and misinformation and I'm kind of already regretting my choice to reply to a thread this tardpozzed.

 

[RybenZ999]

This. If women were as unscrupulous as men are, straight men would be just as promiscuous as gay men. There's a reason why "bed death," and "U-Haul on the first date," are common jokes about lesbians. Very generally, women are more likely to value commitment, and men are more likely to value sex, and each uses one as a means of getting the other. I'm not normally one to pull the evopsy card, but when you consider the physiological risk pregnancy poses to women, it's not surprising that they've become the more selective sex. This is compounded by varying cultural values conflating a woman's chastity with her worth.

Remove women from the equation, and the result is going to be an uptick in casual sex.


What's your point of reference here? Lemmy Kilmister? Only about a fifth of people have cheated on their significant other, and only a tiny percentage of people have "thousands of partners." That percentage being men with lots of fame or money, who women are obviously going to be more unscrupulous with. It's an example of the exact point Catler was making; if straight men were able to, they'd absolutely be as promiscuous as gay men, but because they're courting women (the more selective sex) and not other men, they're not typically able to unless they're rich and/or famous.

Also this entire thread is full of long-debunked urban myths and misinformation and I'm kind of already regretting my choice to reply to a thread this tardpozzed.

You know, now that you bring this up, I wonder what the promiscuity rates of lesbians are? If the reason why fags have such a high body count is because men are easier to court, then i'm interested to know what dykes are like. Theoretically, it should be lower shouldn't it?

 

[Bani]

You know, now that you bring this up, I wonder what the promiscuity rates of lesbians are? If the reason why fags have such a high body count is because men are easier to court, then i'm interested to know what dykes are like. Theoretically, it should be lower shouldn't it?

Lesbians apparently have an average of 12 sexual partners over the course of their lives. Interestingly, this is about the same as the average for straight women, and the same source reports that straight men have about 19 partners across their whole lives.

I looked into statistics about gay men, and it turns out that I was wrong when I hypothesized that fewer women=more promiscuity. The average number of lifetime sexual partners for gay men actually hovers around 11 or 12, just like it does for women. The distribution reveals that half of the gay men out there can barely get laid once, while a handful of Chads have a ton of partners.

In my first post, I failed to consider the affect of the relative rarity of gay men. It's more difficult for them to find people they're sexually compatible with, which tempers whatever potential increase they're may have been in the absence of women.

Keep in mind that these statistics are never got to be 100% reliable, because it's been consistently observed that men exaggerate their "body count." Any study reliant upon self-reporting is going to run into these problems.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

The propaganda for homosexuality has been loud for decades, unlike the propaganda for trannies, purely because they needed to get the most acceptable faggots in first. Sure, trannies were discussed, but they were just as often the subject of mockery.

Anyway, many users here are unwilling to challenge the programming from their childhoods, which is why they'll accept one flavour of faggotry over another. If we go even further, we get to topics like the push for white people to miscegenate with niggers.

Personally, I'm fine drawing the line at the very old prejudice against the Irish and Italians. I simply hold no dislike for those groups in my heart. They should be allowed to enter the next white ethnostate.

 

[AgendaPoster]

The propaganda for homosexuality has been loud for decades, unlike the propaganda for trannies, purely because they needed to get the most acceptable faggots in first. Sure, trannies were discussed, but they were just as often the subject of mockery.

Anyway, many users here are unwilling to challenge the programming from their childhoods, which is why they'll accept one flavour of faggotry over another. If we go even further, we get to topics like the push for white people to miscegenate with niggers.

Personally, I'm fine drawing the line at the very old prejudice against the Irish and Italians. I simply hold no dislike for those groups in my heart. They should be allowed to enter the next white ethnostate.

Why do you have pink triangle when your opinion is correct

 

[𖦹Junkpop𖦹]

Honestly gay marriage being legalized PUSHED the troon shit. Think about when were we hearing about creepy fags like Dylan Mulvany or keffals or jessica yaniv before this shit was legalized. When were we hearing about shit like two gay "dad's" pimping out their kids before they were legally able to adopt? When were we hearing about children and teens being castrated and it being seen as essential health care before?? They are okay with a certain flavor of faggot because we conditioned to believe in the "one of the good ones" same with adult and teen troons.

 

[Esoteric Fucknugget]

When it comes to the unfortunate acceptance of gays, there are a couple of very simple things we needs to realize. These things act almost as axioms from which the mindset of tolerance is derived, or constructed in the case of artificial convincing. Propaganda if you will. I will briefly present you with three major axioms.

When people make an ethical judgement pertaining to an act, that judgement is reached by putting that specific act in relation to other, similar acts. Judgement is relative, not absolute. People see the world through the zeitgeist, not in a principled manner outside of their current situation. If you are brought into a world with a degeneracy so vile that one can find individuals chopping their genitalia off, and taking hormones in order to socially appear as the opposite sex, then lesser degenerate acts (although still degenerate) will pale in comparison. The slippery slope has always been a slippery slope, despite what its critics would have you believe. If the values which produces a culture or civilization are not upheld by future generations, then that civilization will be inhabited by people who are fundamentally in disagreement with the values which spawned it in the first place. This is where we currently find ourselves. The liberal attitude is eating itself. We allowed a minority to participate in our rituals, and now it demands those rituals are changed to accommodate their needs.

People find leaving the comfort of the herd, either consciously or unconsciously, far more threatening to their imagined well-being than acting in discordance with truth. Immediate comfort is rated higher than a truthful way of being, although the latter arguably would result in a better long-term outcome for anyone involved. To offend someone might result in the very real consequence of social ostracization. This greatly hurts our emotional landscape, which is far more important to the majority than logical truth. People do not find it necessary for their views to be true, but rather right. And certain societal institutions decides what is right, whereas eternity dictates what is true. Such societal institutions would include media, academia, governmental agencies and so on. Entirely prone to corruption, which they have been in most Western nations.


Lastly, people are largely illogical in their ’thinking’, if we can even describe it as such. What is referred to as emotional thinking ceases to be the primary internal process at an IQ of 130-135, given to you as a spectrum due to the different components making up an IQ score and some of them playing a higher degree in turning thinking from emotional to logical. Such an IQ score is achieved by roughly 2% of individuals, looking at Western societies. This implies 98% of Western individuals are governed by emotional thinking in their decision making, moral or otherwise. If such individuals believe the acceptance of gays is seen as the norm, and anything questioning that acceptance as deviating from the norm, they will have a negative response to such a deviation. Because it upsets their emotional comfort, their view of the world, and is generally a nuisance. These people, the 98%, simply want to go on living in relative security and comfort. They are unable to think logically.

So, we find ourselves in a situation where we are no longer discussing the absolute. We no longer care about the best way to be, as Socrates, Christ and other Western axiomatic individual would have been interested in. Instead, we have adopted feminine values. When Rome was dying, feminine values rose. Values pertaining to the relative, not the absolute. Values which spread accepting the imperfect, instead of pushing that which is imperfect to strive towards perfection. This is largely the issue, in addition to our primary sources of information being corrupt, the zeitgeist being manipulated through such corruption and people preferring emotional stability over truth, resulting in an acceptance of the zeitgeist as opposed to eternal truth.

Homosexuality can never be elevated to an eternal, perfect principle. It will always be imperfect, and lesser. A society thrives off of heterosexual individuals having children, who in turn have children of their own in a never-ending cycle. An axiom of a functioning society is therefore for men to procreate with women. Same-sex relationships can never become a civilizational axiom, because if its seen as a perfected moral way of being to strive for, then that civilization will die off in an almost Darwinian fashion. Gays do not create civilization, straights do. We need to strive for straightness if we want to have a civilization. We also need to bring back discussions around the absolute, because that’s what built us up.

 

[97 toyota corolla]

Homosexuality can never be elevated to an eternal, perfect principle. It will always be imperfect, and lesser. A society thrives off of heterosexual individuals having children, who in turn have children of their own in a never-ending cycle. An axiom of a functioning society is therefore for men to procreate with women. Same-sex relationships can never become a civilizational axiom, because if its seen as a perfected moral way of being to strive for, then that civilization will die off in an almost Darwinian fashion. Gays do not create civilization, straights do. We need to strive for straightness if we want to have a civilization. We also need to bring back discussions around the absolute, because that’s what built us up.

Unfortunately the West is so pozzed intstitutionally and is so powerful in propaganda that it doesn't look like the situation will change even in a generation's time. Rather, we're right around the corner from reaching the final frontier of Pedophile acceptance.

 

[gang weeder]

Unfortunately the West is so pozzed intstitutionally and is so powerful in propaganda that it doesn't look like the situation will change even in a generation's time. Rather, we're right around the corner from reaching the final frontier of Pedophile acceptance.

It will only change when institutions start to well and truly collapse and shit actually gets real. And maybe not even then, but that's like the bare minimum requirement. People will just go along and get along and avoid rocking the boat until the gravy train stops. At that point when they no longer feel secure and the rubber really hits the road, all the luxury beliefs including worship of faggotry will fall away. But probably not before.

It's one of the senses in which the good times --> weak men --> etc. meme is true.

 

[The Ugly One]

Lefties think humans are smarter than they are, they assume people will do better if they’re just educated a bit more.

No, lefties think that following your base instincts is smart, and that consequences are society's fault. Lefties don't think fags can or should be educated to stop going to drug-fueled barebacking orgies. They think society should come up with a way to ensure that hedonist sodomites can get fucked in the poophole and not get ass cancer.

Lesbians apparently have an average of 12 sexual partners over the course of their lives. Interestingly, this is about the same as the average for straight women, and the same source reports that straight men have about 19 partners across their whole lives.

I looked into statistics about gay men, and it turns out that I was wrong when I hypothesized that fewer women=more promiscuity. The average number of lifetime sexual partners for gay men actually hovers around 11 or 12, just like it does for women. The distribution reveals that half of the gay men out there can barely get laid once, while a handful of Chads have a ton of partners.

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In my first post, I failed to consider the affect of the relative rarity of gay men. It's more difficult for them to find people they're sexually compatible with, which tempers whatever potential increase they're may have been in the absence of women.

Keep in mind that these statistics are never got to be 100% reliable, because it's been consistently observed that men exaggerate their "body count." Any study reliant upon self-reporting is going to run into these problems.

Something fishy with those stats. The NIH found that the median number of sex partners gay men had in the last year was 4, while with women, it was 1.

The median lifetime number of sex partners among those aged 18–24 was 4 in heterosexuals and 15 in UMHS MSM, and among persons age 35–39, was 10 and 67, respectively.

The most promiscuous fag they surveyed had over 9000 partners.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3334840/

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

The most promiscuous fag they surveyed had over 9000 partners.

Talk about a power level.

 

[this is the drama reborn]

Lesbians apparently have an average of 12 sexual partners over the course of their lives. Interestingly, this is about the same as the average for straight women, and the same source reports that straight men have about 19 partners across their whole lives.

I looked into statistics about gay men, and it turns out that I was wrong when I hypothesized that fewer women=more promiscuity. The average number of lifetime sexual partners for gay men actually hovers around 11 or 12, just like it does for women. The distribution reveals that half of the gay men out there can barely get laid once, while a handful of Chads have a ton of partners.

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In my first post, I failed to consider the affect of the relative rarity of gay men. It's more difficult for them to find people they're sexually compatible with, which tempers whatever potential increase they're may have been in the absence of women.

Keep in mind that these statistics are never got to be 100% reliable, because it's been consistently observed that men exaggerate their "body count." Any study reliant upon self-reporting is going to run into these problems.

This matches up with my experience. It’s also matched the male experience in general. Only a handful of guys have the opportunity for endless sexual conquest.

This is why I rage when people act like being gay gets you non-stop sex.

Honestly gay marriage being legalized PUSHED the troon shit. Think about when were we hearing about creepy fags like Dylan Mulvany or keffals or jessica yaniv before this shit was legalized. When were we hearing about shit like two gay "dad's" pimping out their kids before they were legally able to adopt? When were we hearing about children and teens being castrated and it being seen as essential health care before?? They are okay with a certain flavor of faggot because we conditioned to believe in the "one of the good ones" same with adult and teen troons.

If you guys want to reverse, I’m all for it. However, I will always advocate for gay men to gather power for themselves. I even advocate for white and black nationalists to do so.

One of the reasons, we’re in this mess is because the boundary between the private and


My point of contention is that you’re placing the responsibility of Dylan Mulvany, Keffals, and Jessica Yaniv on us. Granted, if we lived in an tribal society all three would be executed.

 

[WelperHelper99]

No, lefties think that following your base instincts is smart, and that consequences are society's fault. Lefties don't think fags can or should be educated to stop going to drug-fueled barebacking orgies. They think society should come up with a way to ensure that hedonist sodomites can get fucked in the poophole and not get ass cancer.

It's nuts man. They don't even think straight teenagers know what condoms are and that teenage pregnancy is thru the roof like it's the 80's still. You realize there is this thing called the internet, right? And good lord if you say you don't like the gays, I got in a shouting match with my leftie friend and he literally said LGBTQIA. I've never heard a real human say the fucking acronym. The brain rot is real, and the thing was we were discussing on religious grounds, as we're both Mormon. You dont end up in heaven if you act on your gay impulses, that has been set in stone. He was going full hippie, and said he would follow them into hell. The lunacy. I know he doesn't spend much time with this friend, yet you, in a religious context, assuming its all true, would throw it all away for a faggot? What???

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

It's nuts man. They don't even think straight teenagers know what condoms are and that teenage pregnancy is thru the roof like it's the 80's still. You realize there is this thing called the internet, right? And good lord if you say you don't like the gays, I got in a shouting match with my leftie friend and he literally said LGBTQIA. I've never heard a real human say the fucking acronym. The brain rot is real, and the thing was we were discussing on religious grounds, as we're both Mormon. You dont end up in heaven if you act on your gay impulses, that has been set in stone. He was going full hippie, and said he would follow them into hell. The lunacy. I know he doesn't spend much time with this friend, yet you, in a religious context, assuming its all true, would throw it all away for a faggot? What???

Oh, teenage pregnancy is dipping, but even if it weren't, it's still the least of their problems...

Another aspect to that is leftists don't believe in the concept of free will, or agency. The idea that people are not a slave to their programming, and therefore it's not unfair to judge them based off what they choose to do. Or if it's not their internal programming compelling them to do bad things, it's outside circumstances.

So therefore it's unfair to expect a same-sex attracted person to not act on his impulses. It's bigoted to believe that people aren't born gay, but rather develop same-sex attraction as they grow up, and it STILL doesn't compel them to act on it.

It's also unfair to expect a black person to not be a criminal, or take responsibility for his own actions, because of muh raycism, regardless of how much help was extended to him in the first place in the form of welfare or reparations.

Expecting someone to stop eating junk, go outside and walk around, and lose a bit of weight? Yeah right.

A lot of these issues spring forth from the fact that leftists are allergic to the idea that most of your problems are your own damn fault, and you have the power to better your own situation. You will most likely not become a super-rich chad, but you'll be reasonably successful regardless.

The idea of moral agency is a major part of Mormonism, an idea that Lucifer displayed a great deal of contempt for in the beginning, and sought to take away. Kind of fitting how little regard leftists have for the concept of agency right here and now.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Oh, teenage pregnancy is dipping, but even if it weren't, it's still the least of their problems...

Another aspect to that is leftists don't believe in the concept of free will, or agency. The idea that people are not a slave to their programming, and therefore it's not unfair to judge them based off what they choose to do. Or if it's not their internal programming compelling them to do bad things, it's outside circumstances.

So therefore it's unfair to expect a same-sex attracted person to not act on his impulses. It's bigoted to believe that people aren't born gay, but rather develop same-sex attraction as they grow up.

It's also unfair to expect a black person to not be a criminal, or take responsibility for his own actions, because of muh raycism, regardless of how much help was extended to him in the first place in the form of welfare or reparations.

Expecting someone to stop eating junk, go outside and walk around, and lose a bit of weight? Yeah right.

A lot of these issues spring forth from the fact that leftists are allergic to the idea that a good deal of your problems are your own damn fault, and you have the power to better your own situation. You will most likely not become a super-rich chad, but you'll be reasonably successful regardless.

The idea of moral agency is a major part of Mormonism, an idea that Lucifer displayed a great deal of contempt for in the beginning, and sought to take away. Kind of fitting how little regard leftists have for the concept of agency right here and now.

And that's the thing. Responsibility and choice is what I found lacking in his arguments. He even admits that she chose to be gay. Ill let you guess why. People are not slaves to their inner programming, not unless they choose to be. And the sad part is i can see his fear. Hes a big guy, powerful and strong. Yet he is so weak, afraid of offending anyone. It saddens me. This cult can and will cripple anyone it takes hold of, even the mighty.