LDS Church acknowledges Joseph Smith was pedophile who married 14 year old girl in new essays on polygamy

SALT LAKE CITY — In a new series of essays, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints addresses its history of polygamy.

One essay acknowledges LDS Church founder Joseph Smith practiced polygamy, and married a girl who was just shy of her 15th birthday.

“Most of those sealed to Joseph Smith were between 20 and 40 years of age at the time of their sealing to him. The oldest, Fanny Young, was 56 years old. The youngest was Helen Mar Kimball, daughter of Joseph’s close friends Heber C. and Vilate Murray Kimball, who was sealed to Joseph several months before her 15th birthday,” the essay, published on the LDS Church’s website, said. “Marriage at such an age, inappropriate by today’s standards, was legal in that era, and some women married in their mid-teens.”

It also acknowledged that Smith married other men’s wives.

“Joseph Smith’s sealings to women already married may have been an early version of linking one family to another. In Nauvoo, most if not all of the first husbands seem to have continued living in the same household with their wives during Joseph’s lifetime, and complaints about these sealings with Joseph Smith are virtually absent from the documentary record,” the essay states.

The essays are the latest in a series of sometimes controversial topics the LDS Church has chosen to address about its history and practices. The church also posted a video about sacred temple garments in an effort to educate people.

The LDS Church no longer practices polygamy and excommunicates those who do. Utah abandoned the practice as a condition of statehood. A federal judge recently ruled part of the state’s polygamy ban violated First Amendment religious freedom rights.

There are an estimated 30,000 people who claim to be “fundamentalist Mormons,” which is a belief system that includes the practice of polygamy.

In one of the essays, the LDS Church acknowledges that it benefited from polygamy in the 19th century.

“For many who practiced it, plural marriage was a trial of faith. It violated both cultural and legal norms, leading to persecution and revilement,” the essay states. “Despite these hardships, plural marriage benefited the Church in innumerable ways.”


Oldie but goodie for our uppity Mormon friends who pretend to be moralfags. Joseph Smith was on the level of Muhammad honestly.
 
And when I said he was dead, I meant there's nothing you can do about it even if it happened.

Wow, that's a really smart excuse for kid fucking. "There's nothing you can do about it even if it happened." This really sounds like someone that believes in the lessons of the Bible. That's interesting LDS dogma though. You could apply it to anything, "So what he raped and killed 50 dogs, there's nothing you can do about it now!" What great religious morality.

Fact is times were fucking different, that shit happened, it was way more than just Joseph,

Kid fucking is okay if times are different? All morality is subjective and dependent on the times? Great LDS teachings right there. "It was okay that Joseph Smith fucked kids, it was the 1840's and fucking kids was okay then." Also I like that the LDS standard for holy prophets is they have the same morality as any other drifter-hobo child molester in the 1840's. Such high standards! "So what if he fucked kids, it was the in thing in the 1840's!" I'm impressed by the saint-like piety of your prophet. Wow. lol
 
Wow, that's a really smart excuse for kid fucking. "There's nothing you can do about it even if it happened." This really sounds like someone that believes in the lessons of the Bible. That's interesting LDS dogma though. You could apply it to anything, "So what he raped and killed 50 dogs, there's nothing you can do about it now!" What great religious morality.



Kid fucking is okay if times are different? All morality is subjective and dependent on the times? Great LDS teachings right there. "It was okay that Joseph Smith fucked kids, it was the 1840's and fucking kids was okay then." Also I like that the LDS standard for holy prophets is they have the same morality as any other drifter-hobo child molester in the 1840's. Such high standards! "So what if he fucked kids, it was the in thing in the 1840's!" I'm impressed by the saint-like piety of your prophet. Wow. lol
My gosh you are autistic. You didn't answer the reparations question. Should the decendents of slaveowners pay reparations? No. Same thing here. Fact is they were acceptable then and not now. That change had to happen at some point in history. It wasn't 1840. Morally wrong yes, but not uncommon or illegal. It Should have been but wasn't. I judge him based on the time period he lived.

You are hating me based on a dead guy. I know no Mormon in my life that would touch a kid. In fact that would get very violent. Your questioning is retarded. I'm not responsible for Joseph Smith, he is. And he will answer before God at judgment day.

That is something you fail to grasp: Joseph Smith was a flawed man. There is only one Christ, only He was perfect. And I accept that. Your hatred over a dead man and thus thinking all of us are the same is stupid.
 
My gosh you are autistic. You didn't answer the reparations question. Should the decendents of slaveowners pay reparations? No. Same thing here.

Is this the Peewee Herman defense? lol I asked you why it was okay for Joseph Smith to have a teenage harem and fuck children? I'm not satisfied with the answers out of you yet. Why do you approve of kid fucking, dude? Answer the kid fucking question, Mormon. lol

You are hating me based on a dead guy.

LOL he's just a "dead guy" now? Your prophet who founded your religion you supposedly believe in so much you keep replying back and forth is just "some dead guy" I shouldn't use to judge you with? It's your religion, not mine. I'm not in a religion founded by a child toucher.

It wasn't 1840. Morally wrong yes, but not uncommon or illegal. It Should have been but wasn't. I judge him based on the time period he lived.

Okay, now it's morally wrong. Great. Next question, why would someone who Momrons say will sit next to Jesus and God when humanity is judged have done a serious moral wrong? Seemes like a logical paradox to me. I don't know, I don't think a child molester would be really good at judging the morality of humanity.

I know no Mormon in my life that would touch a kid.

You don't know Joseph Smith, your prophet? Well I guess he's technically dead, but shouldn't you know him in a religious sense? lol

I'm not responsible for Joseph Smith, he is. And he will answer before God at judgment day.

LOL, according to Mormons, he will be judging people on judgment day. How is going to judge himself? Good grief, do I know your religion better than you do? lol

That is something you fail to grasp: Joseph Smith was a flawed man. There is only one Christ, only He was perfect. And I accept that. Your hatred over a dead man and thus thinking all of us are the same is stupid.

It's fair to judge people by their leader. A child molester is not a prophet, and certainly not someone who would continue the legacy of Jesus Christ.
 
Is this the Peewee Herman defense? lol I asked you why it was okay for Joseph Smith to have a teenage harem and fuck children? I'm not satisfied with the answers out of you yet. Why do you approve of kid fucking, dude? Answer the kid fucking question, Mormon. lol



LOL he's just a "dead guy" now? Your prophet who founded your religion you supposedly believe in so much you keep replying back and forth is just "some dead guy" I shouldn't use to judge you with? It's your religion, not mine. I'm not in a religion founded by a child toucher.



Okay, now it's morally wrong. Great. Next question, why would someone who Momrons say will sit next to Jesus and God when humanity is judged have done a serious moral wrong? Seemes like a logical paradox to me. I don't know, I don't think a child molester would be really good at judging the morality of humanity.



You don't know Joseph Smith, your prophet? Well I guess he's technically dead, but shouldn't you know him in a religious sense? lol



LOL, according to Mormons, he will be judging people on judgment day. How is going to judge himself? Good grief, do I know your religion better than you do? lol



It's fair to judge people by their leader. A child molester is not a prophet, and certainly not someone who would continue the legacy of Jesus Christ.
I've given you my answers. You are being an absolute mongolid. It's clear you just wish to hate us for whatever reason. Kid fucking bad. There. The magic words out of my mouth. That won't change anything with you but I said them anyway. You are one tired angry lesbian that is mad about a man you or I have never met. You refuse to see the good we do, the years our young men sacrifice serving people like you that hate our guts, nor how many happy families mormonism has created. Why would you care, you're just a cat lady on her 12 monster and 3rd pot of coffee struggling to shitpost.
 
Kid fucking bad. There. The magic words out of my mouth. That won't change anything with you but I said them anyway.
How are you so sure that nothing you say will change Mothra's mind if you didn't even address what Mothra's actually trying to say?

Okay, Joseph Smith was a flawed man, flawed enough for you to not even be sure if he's going to heaven. You did say that only God will answer for him on judgment day. Doesn't that damage the credibility of Mormonism then? What makes you think that Smith isn't full of shit?

It just seems like you're getting bothered about someone attacking a deeply held belief, which is understandable if you were honest about it and didn't accuse the other person of being the bothered one.
 
How are you so sure that nothing you say will change Mothra's mind if you didn't even address what Mothra's actually trying to say?

Okay, Joseph Smith was a flawed man, flawed enough for you to not even be sure if he's going to heaven. You did say that only God will answer for him on judgment day. Doesn't that damage the credibility of Mormonism then? What makes you think that Smith isn't full of shit?

It just seems like you're getting bothered about someone attacking a deeply held belief, which is understandable if you were honest about it and didn't accuse the other person of being the bothered one.
Alright you seem somewhat reasonable. I'm bothered because she barged in on a thread, then created this one to paint every Mormon in existence as a pedo. Yes I'm a bit flustered.

I defend Smith because he is my prophet. It's a duty. That and:
So he didn't marry someone who was underage.
By the standards and laws of the day, he was clear of any wrongdoing. You know what else you could do in 1840? Buy a slave, get cocaine over the counter, and holes in your head without anesthetic. The world was pretty shit back then in general.
 
Smith was a conman that made shit up, created a cult, and is in hell for doing so. Him marrying a woman that was legal at the time is not relevant to that lol.
The problem is that in modern America, a man who tells obvious lies and sleeps with his friends' wives gets on the short list for President. So all we can focus on is how marriage laws were different.
 
Smith was a conman that made shit up, created a cult, and is in hell for doing so. Him marrying a woman that was legal at the time is not relevant to that lol.
Not to worry, it’ll get decriminalized soon enough and the National Review will call it a true conservative principle. Globohomo neoliberalism is also a cult that is being enforced on us from the top down via anarchotyranny. Time can be a flat circle sometimes.
 
We know Joe was a real person and not just an amalgamation of bullshit like jesus and mohamed are.
99 percent of modern hisotrians agree Jesus was a historical person. You are citing reddit atheist arguments pulled out of the garbage can of 1970's discourse:

Also again, Jesus didn't fuck kids (or anyone else) like Joseph Smith and Muhammad.
 
99 percent of modern hisotrians agree Jesus was a historical person. You are citing reddit atheist arguments pulled out of the garbage can of 1970's discourse:

Also again, Jesus didn't fuck kids (or anyone else) like Joseph Smith and Muhammad.
There were no records of him marrying or taking a wife; reaching the age of 30 as a virgin means he was an incel and probably killed a few women... probably why they crucified him.
 
I generally agree, but it doesn't apply to every religion. Jesus never fucked kids or anyone else for that matter. I don't think Buddha was known for fucking kids either, but I'm not an expert. lol

The Church of LDS should could up with official Mormon dogma to explain in what situations fucking kids is okay and holy. It would fit in nicely with the Native American Jews, space niggers, buried treasure and everything else Mormons believe in.
So if it's YOUR religion why be bothered that the guy that started it is such a fucking freak? I mean there's the muhammed thing and god knows what degeneracy is going on in the other shit.
Are we really going to pretend you know the history and machinations of your OWN religions fully?
After you JUST complained about the sooper sekrit pedo john smith?
Okay.


So I wonder if your predecessors went all "gee those priests are totally trustworthy, my kids can be trusted with them."

What's that? Only a few priests were pedophiles?
Which one of us tried the whole "UR RELIGIOUS LEADER IS A PEDOPHILE #OWNED" again?
Constantly?

Let's not pretend religions are these monoliths of morality via their history, please. You just spent days proving otherwise. And your fangirling isn't as persuasive as your spite.
 
Are we really going to pretend you know the history and machinations of your OWN religions fully?
After you JUST complained about the sooper sekrit pedo john smith?
Okay.


So I wonder if your predecessors went all "gee those priests are totally trustworthy, my kids can be trusted with them."

What's that? Only a few priests were pedophiles?
Which one of us tried the whole "UR RELIGIOUS LEADER IS A PEDOPHILE #OWNED" again?
Constantly?

Let's not pretend religions are these monoliths of morality via their history, please. You just spent days proving otherwise. And your fangirling isn't as persuasive as your spite.
I'm not a Catholic. I don't exist in a top down interconnected hierarchy that covers up kid fucking or in an independent church where that happened. So no I don't agree with that, sorry. Not would I make excuses for anyone who did, which was my point. If you want to know what Jesus thought about people who messed with kids, you can read the New Testament. He was pretty specific about condemning it.
 
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