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Say what you want about Zack, but the guy was who put CG on the map.
Say what you want about being a hate group, but that label is what gave CG exposure.
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Say what you want about Zack, but the guy was who put CG on the map.
Say what you want about being a hate group, but that label is what gave CG exposure.
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Shane Davis is currently EFAPing another unlisted video discussion between Chris Braly and the Crowdfundr guy, this one being older (recorded 11 days ago) from the one posted before.
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The greatest strategic blunder Richard ever made was going on the Jim Jefferies show instead of Joe Rogan.
Not to say things would be different, but he could have articulated what comicsgate was all about to a larger audience in a more professional environment instead of making himself and the movement he fathered look like a fucking joke and allow their critics to define who they are.
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Interesting that their first meeting is also recorded, the link is probably out there on twitter or something and I'll wait to find that. Shane Davis doing EFAPs are terrible, he will react to a quarter of a sentence and go on for minutes assuming whatever dumb shit he wants.
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In hindsight, this really was a huge fuck up on Zack's part.
He could have had at least 2 uninterrupted hours talking to one of, if not the top podcasters in the world. Say what you will about Rogan, but he tends to ask mostly pertinent questions and lets his guest speak as long as they need to. He's pretty decent at tard wrangling, too so I imagine he could have stopped Zack from going too far off the rails.
Zack decided against this and instead opted to sit down for a hit piece which would be heavily edited to make him look like the biggest asshole possible. Had Zack done any research at all and watched exactly one episode of this show, he might have realized that the point of it was to make people who weren't Jim Jefferies look like the biggest asshole possible. Of course, Zack did much of the heavy lifting himself by showing up with a haircut that made him look like someone put Richard Spencer in a microwave.
It can't be understated that Zack actually thought he was sitting down for a legitimate, serious interview because he is a naive retard with zero critical thinking skills.
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No, I think most of us knew Zack snubbing Rogan for a no name like Jeffries was a fuck up from the gate.
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I don't think I will be going out of my way to follow the Crowdfundr thing any further. It occurred to me Crowdfundr are just following the old Malin principle. CG'ers demanding that Crowdfundr platforms them is wrong and their desperation is turning to rage.
End of story. Grab an whore. (see this post for details)
End of story. Grab an whore. (see this post for details)
FluffyJackal
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Jefferies was a wham/bam/thankyoumaam affair, where he probably spent 20-30 mins in the studio. Meyer has said that he hated the experience independently of Jefferies hostility.
Rogan would require at least 90 minutes of autistic Zack trying to stay put on a seat humoring another human being without bolting for the door.
@FROG would be a more natural choice given that he's much much more affable and articulate, and he was a somebody within comics before joining CG. But I forget if the Jefferies/Meyer interview was before VanSciver started youtubin'
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Honestly, the fact that Meyer is responsible for like 85% of the lore that created the "Comicsgate is a hate group" narrative and he just kind of threw the hot potato at EVS and fucked off is the funniest part of this shit.
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I sometimes forget that Zack is only comfortable talking to people in meatspace who take orders and wear uniforms with name tags, which limits his somewhat normal interactions to members of the military and fast food workers. Outside of those groups, he's probably fighting the urge to punch or shoot the person in front of him.
IIRC, didn't he say that Jefferies wasn't really a dick to him at the time and that he thought the interview went well before he saw the actual piece? I could be wrong, but I thought I remembered Zack saying he was surprised at being taken out of context and edited to look like a complete prick.
You are absolutely right that Ethan would have made a much better guest for Rogan than Zack, but you have to figure Rogan must have been shown a handful of videos of the sped parked in the Burger King lot ripping up comics in his Kia and screaming about cum dumpsters and thought the guy would be an entertaining guest. Zack bailing on his show probably doomed any chances of Ethan (or any other CG name) getting a shot at it. I'm also inclined to believe Ethan would have turned down the Jim Jefferies thing because he's not as big an idiot as Zack.
There is a very retarded poetry to it, for sure. I also find it funny that Zack has tried to rid himself of the "cheese touch" (as he was once fond of calling it) that comes with being in any way associated with CG and just can't. He's forever the cum dumpster guy, and the porn movie has only added another hilarious dimension to that.
As I've said before, there are definite things he could do to make sure everyone knows he is no longer involved but doing them would also cost him the bulk of what audience he has left. Hard to be "not CG" when the vast majority of your audience are still die-hard, brain damaged CG paypigs and you don't bother promoting your stuff to expand that audience.
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I really never gave a shit about comics, I found EVS from the high council, been listening off and on for what? 5 years now? I think EVS is charismatic, entertaining, however his loyalty is unknown other than to himself. I wish EVS the best, and I leave this link to a song called be a rock super star by cypress hill.... just change rock super star with YT super star
you destroyed allot of potential alley's for your clout, and what now? hope you got enough saved up to ride the slide to irrelevance ...........
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On the plus side, it looks like Comicsgate failed to make enough of a scene over the Indiegogo shadowban to get themselves kicked off of there before realizing they had nowhere to go.
Latest IGG Shadowbans
Koni Waves by Mark Poulton
Dojo Kun's Projectile Reptile by Dojo Kun Comics
Shadow of the Kraken by Vinnie Tartamella
Shadow Sentry: ORIGINS by Eric Ninaltowski
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This showed up yesterday.
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The Chris Braly/Bleeding Fool write-up on Crowdfundr has dropped. The discussions were recorded without Barach's knowledge (they're both based in single party consent states).
Crowdfundr changed their Terms of Service after banning Private American (in December, before both conversations), adding this line:
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Crowdfundr changed their Terms of Service after banning Private American (in December, before both conversations), adding this line:
Crowdfunding Platform Admits to Banning 'All ComicsGate Associates' - Bleeding Fool
“The general perception of ComicsGate is problematic for us, and that’s where we’ll have to leave it.” “So, anyone that associates with ComicsGate is not going to be allowed on Crowdfundr, am I hearing you properly?” “You are.” And that was Crowdfundr’s final decision at the conclusion of...
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Negro
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Why can''t they go to literally any other crowdbegging site?
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That's a shame, the Shadow Kraken and Sentry guys look like they have interesting art.
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There weren't that many options in 2017 (Kickstarter and Indiegogo) and since KS banned a Richard Meyer campaign for no reason, they congregated to IGG and used the ban as a selling point.
They were still autistically screeching at people that wanted to use other platforms until the IGG shadowbans started late last year. They refused to promote Kickstarter or Zoop campaigns, even though Meyer himself has used KS just fine since his ban.
And now they suddenly have two sites (crowdfundr and fundrazr) they can't expand to even if they wanted to. Even KS and Zoop haven't made "no CG creators allowed" statements (yet).
The sad part is that this has zero effect on the big guys that sucked IGG's cock all these years. They can make their own sites, people will follow. RIP the small fish though.
EDIT: A theory I've heard from disenfrachised creators is that the big guys (EVS?) want to transition CG people from IGG to their own CG-branded crowdfunding site and pocket the fees. I don't know how viable that would be at this point.
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Twitter Is Cancer
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It's important not to simply repeat CG lies as though they were true. The single biggest attraction of D rated business indiegogo for CG is that it takes its cut and lets them steal from backers immediately the campaign ends, rather than even the sham kickstarter goes through of checking on fulfilment. Simple as that. Whatever lets the crooks of CG steal the most money the quickest while having no obligation to do anything for their victims. Indiegogo is the queen of scam sites, and so naturally CG is the happiest there.
Even if Crowdfundr let them on, the payment processing system Crowdfundr uses would be issuing hundreds of refunds at their own cost with CG and would never tolerate that sort of scandal. Pretty sure it's EU owned and they are much more professional at policing scammers, what with all the indians and africans they are infested with. CG is on the level of an indian conman after all.
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Now that the word is out and comicsgate is officially labeled a hate group by mainstream and IGG is silently telling them to fuck off by shadow banning them, I believe these other crowdfunding platforms are going to start taking pre-emptive action to prevent themselves from becoming the next IGG.
By preventing comicsgate from migrating en masse and shitting up another platform and staining it with their reputation, companies are going to start changing their ToS to specifically deny comicsgaters access. And as we all know, comicsgate is too lazy and lacks the business and technical sense to create a CG specific platform. The small number of big fish may survive in the short term, but the little guys in Slumtown are fucked.
Looks like in the end Frog did Matthew Fowler a huge favor by kicking him out of comicsgate..
By preventing comicsgate from migrating en masse and shitting up another platform and staining it with their reputation, companies are going to start changing their ToS to specifically deny comicsgaters access. And as we all know, comicsgate is too lazy and lacks the business and technical sense to create a CG specific platform. The small number of big fish may survive in the short term, but the little guys in Slumtown are fucked.
Looks like in the end Frog did Matthew Fowler a huge favor by kicking him out of comicsgate..
Mister Dongs
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Oh no, the technical and business sense is there, it's just that Comicsgate lacks the social acumen to even create a collective crowdfund link aggregator without devolving into civil war. Just look at IndieCron. If you take in one guy from the slums and host his campaign on your platform at your expense and your risk, the obvious reaction from everyone else is "but why aren't you hosting my campaign? I'm being gatekept!" So nobody's going to do it.
Shane Davis pretty much circumvented the entire shadowban by just making a website that mirrors the Indiegogo campaign minus the "noindex" tag. It cost like $10 a year to do. He also added an online store and a direct payment processor as a contingency if the campaign was outright terminated, which took more effort, but yeah the 6 months of bitching and moaning over the shadowban could have been defeated for like less than two bucks a month. Instead though they decided to boycott, threaten and 'monetize' a conflict with the one sort-of reliable payment processor in a misguided attempt to bend them to their will and moreso garner attention and youtube content. CG is a very smart movement.
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