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Vaguely popular comic Youtuber ComicTropes has hopped aboard the “Anyone criticizing black April is racist and she was TOTALLY black in the original comics, you guys.”

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Hooligan Handgun said:
“Anyone criticizing black April is racist and she was TOTALLY black in the original comics, you guys.”
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"Yikes! Let's unpack this." First, was April really black in the original comics? Second, even if she was, is it "triggered" like SJWs constantly are (projection yet again?), or is it annoyance at all this "astroturfed" Current Year "political correctness"? Finally, is "racist" there SJW doublespeak for "wrongthinker"? And in any case, it's not always "racist" to not want a character to be changed from what people are used to.

(tl;dr: Looks like yet another manipulative SJW "gaslighting" attempt.)
 
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Just more proof to read the original TMNT comics than waste time on more pointless reboots that have nothing to do with Vanilla Ice


ToroidalBoat said:
To me the TMNT is still the '80s show.
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starborn427614 said:
80's and 2003, for me. Turtles Forever was a bit on the overly goofy side for the former, but otherwise a great celebration of the brand.
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If anything, the 80’s version was awesome and the 2003 version at least paid tribute to the original by actually making it modern than the recent updated versions of the Ninja Turtles. I don’t know any of those fans of those two versions who would willingly want to see a 2023 version of them.
 
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starborn427614 said:
80's and 2003, for me.
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Jonah Hill poster said:
If anything, the 80’s version was awesome and the 2003 version at least paid tribute to the original by actually making it modern than the recent updated versions of the Ninja Turtles.
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It may sound wat, but I never saw the 2003 TMNT.

(I also liked the comics from the early '90s. 3 of them were the "Black Hole Trilogy", of which I never read the last one.)
 
Comic Tropes is bad. I used to watch some of his vids because he was informative, even though I kind of hated his personality and mannerisms. Finally one time he introduced a video by shitting in his own cat's litterbox, maybe like he was Avgn or something. It's dumb when the Nerd poops on games, but at least it is his patented shtick, and sometimes funny. Comic Tropes' take on the gag was so stupid and disgusting I turned his video off and never paid attention to him again. He may be knowledgeable but his judgment is awful.

I never really watched the TMNT cartoon but I loved browsing the toys when there were dozens of figures to choose from (I only ended up with four or five of them.) They were about $4 apiece which was expensive to a kid but seems so quaint now. Truly TMNT was a height of youthful consoomer mania those days along with Batman and Super Mario.

The first turtles movie was quite good, though I knew even back then it had way too much cornball stuff. Story full of the feels, mostly good acting, great sets, and costumes/puppets from Jim Henson Creature Shop. Turtles & Splinter never looked better in live action. TMNT 2 was a kiddified cash grab and ended up as the Emperor's New Clothes. The Turtles never reclaimed their place in pop culture. One of these days I'll have to get around to reading the original Eastman/Laird comics.

Frankly TMNT is a lot like He-Man to me, in that it's mostly a franchise of kiddie shit and I don't understand why anyone older than twelve even thinks about it (although I maintain that the first movie is ok.)
 
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Hooligan Handgun said:
Vaguely popular comic Youtuber ComicTropes has hopped aboard the “Anyone criticizing black April is racist and she was TOTALLY black in the original comics, you guys.”

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Ugh. Even if the YouTuber doesn't own one of the numerous reprints of TMNT #2, one of the first search results for "Mirage TMNT April" deboonks this:
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Was April O'Neil Originally Black in the Mirage Comics? (Spoiler: No, she Wasn't)

There has been a long-standing misconception within the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle community, and especially those outside of it, that...
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Here she is with Baxter, from her first appearance:
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A reprint of the issue:
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The colored version by First Comics. Eastman was one of the colorists:
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In #4, she goes to a salon and does something very 80s to her hair:
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Does getting a perm make a white woman black? Maybe. I don't know how those things work.

There's also a brief comment from Laird that he always thought she was white. But what would he know about TMNT lore?
 
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Between the designs and the voice actors, the guys look to be on the 12-13 end of the "teenage" scale, as opposed to the 16-18 end I have always considered them to be, what with the whole "constant fighting for their lives and child soldiers are bad, m'kaaaay" angle of their media. Knowing Seth Rogen is in charge of it makes me think this was a deliberate choice on his part to try and own the chuds.

Seth (probably): "Hmmm...people that disagree with me call my home town Pedowood...and they think that 'cheese pizza' is code for pedophile bullshit... I KNOW! Let's take this franchise featuring ambiguously aged borderline adult characters who LOVE pizza, age them all down to be ambiguously aged borderline children to own the chuds!"
 
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SteelPlatedHeart said:
That is….very unflattering.
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Good lord how did the sexy news reporter April come to this.
Calandrino said:
They made her Black in the last cartoon, now she must be even more diverse so she is a person of fatness
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Yeah I remember they made her black in the last cartoon. Now they made her a fat ass. How much I bet you she turns out to be lesbian.

If they do that than the "Raise" April will come off much better. Since she wasn't fat or (it happens) gay.
 
Jonah Hill poster said:
Just more proof to read the original TMNT comics than waste time on more pointless reboots that have nothing to do with Vanilla Ice


If anything, the 80’s version was awesome and the 2003 version at least paid tribute to the original by actually making it modern than the recent updated versions of the Ninja Turtles. I don’t know any of those fans of those two versions who would willingly want to see a 2023 version of them.
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And let's not forget the crossover when the 2003 TMNT meet the 1987 version.
 
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