Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Kiwi Sneed Snake]

Nope, the direction that warfare is going favors middling quality and in high quantity. The era from the 1980s-2010s of extreme high performance, low run equipment has ended, the Predator/Reaper systems have been exposed as overly expensive boondoggles compared to these cheaply made consumer drones with grenades attached to them pioneered by ISIS, $500 dollar drones holding grenades with shuttle cock feathers attached to them, each Reaper costs 15m to produce and they're highly susceptible to SAM, Manpads and Fighters since they're so huge. The cheap Iranian, Russian, and Turkish suicide drones do not have these issues, in fact their radar signature is so small that fighters have more trouble getting lock on than they would an actual stealth fighter, not to mention the price differential is so huge that it cannot be hand waved away any longer. The Ukrainians have lost Mig-29s chasing these things all over because they can't get missile lock and have to use cannons to shoot them down, this Ukrainian pilot was so close that he got caught up in the debris field which smoked his plane and turned it into a debris field as well.
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The problem with these cheap little drones though is the payload and range. Great as a terror and PTSD inducer though.
They just can't carry enough ordnance to be of use compared to a reaper/predator/grey eagle.

For instance every single video (20+) I've seen of these drones destroying tanks, it's abandoned/knocked out MBT's with open hatches in the middle of a field. Show me one video of them dropping a grenade into a crewed MBT, moving or firing in combat please.
Compare that with say a ripple of Hellfire II's from a reaper.

Regarding MANPADS all the above UAV's can fly at 30,000ft + (50,000 for the reaper) and can engage ground targets from around (25,000ft).
A stinger has a max range of 15,000ft.....
A Strela has a max range of 10,000ft....

They are susceptible to SAMS and Fighters as you said but do carry decoys (chaff/flare) and also FOX 2 sidewinders for AA, remember these are heat seeking missiles so it's not like the UAV has to dog fight just fire and forget, (which will put most planes on the defence straight away even if they shoot the drone down later).

What I really don't understand though is why there dropping tiny grenades from the drones instead of mortar rounds? In Iraq/Syria that's what ISIS was doing to great effect.

Spoiler: ISIS UAV drops mortar round on Humvee

Now that's effect on target!

ps don't worry the Humvee was crewed by sand people so apparently it's ok.

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[870EVO]

Ukrainian girl argues with German protester

https://twitter.com/ricwe123/status/1632872726632202247

Zelensky says he will sent more to Bahkmut

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1632896364785942528

 

[Feline Supremacist]

https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1630830311352438784?s=20

Is this what passes for an argument at Oxford? Good Lord.

https://twitter.com/ViktorFunke/status/1631895806121787392?s=20

via https://t.me/putingers_cat/4437

Maybe Russia should wake Lenin up again, he's literally in front of the Kremlin.
Waiting.

 

[01169]

Ukrainian girl argues with German protester

I understand the Ukrainian girl. Her German supporters are far worse. That old dude in green military clothing. Holy shit what a clown. And the last guy in the vid goes into some weird rant about communists and how anyone could be antiamerican.

Absolute disgrace. This nation is beyond hope.

 

[Stasi]

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https://twitter.com/jeff_kaye/status/1630830311352438784?s=20

Is this what passes for an argument at Oxford? Good Lord.

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https://twitter.com/ViktorFunke/status/1631895806121787392?s=20

via https://t.me/putingers_cat/4437

Maybe Russia should wake Lenin up again, he's literally in front of the Kremlin.
Waiting.

I might have posted about this already, can't remember, but there is a bit of a blogger industry now of Russians making Ukrainians look like absolute fucking idiots on chatruletka. At first it was funny watching it, especially the amount of times they get mentally buck-broken from even very simple questions about history for example but its just sad and pathetic now and I can't watch it anymore. Ukrainians are so mentally degenerated they don't have even a rudimentary understanding of history or world events.

Some of them try to make excuses about being lied to or "zombified" by propaganda but you are on the internet, on chatroulette, you can check these things in two clicks. Honestly sad to see an entire nation stoop to such a level of mental degradation.

 

[Rubick]

You mean to tell me ancient Ukraine didn't invent the wheel, modern agriculture and the pyramids !? Only for them then to be destroyed by the ogre like Rus out of sheer jealousy for the superior civilization and the Cradle Of Humanity that was Ukraine ?

 

[Null]

"zwastika"

The Z is literally banned in Germany by the same law they've used to ban the Totemkopf and Hakenkreuz.

Strafgesetzbuch section 86a - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Feline Supremacist]

On the 5th of March, the commander of the separate reconnaissance battalion "Sparta" Guards Colonel Vladimir Zhoga, callsign “Vokha" was mortally wounded, providing a way out of Volnovakha for civilians.


Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded the title of Hero of Russia to late Colonel Vladimir Zhoga, at the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia while meeting his father. https://t.me/heilukraine1959/3857

 

[JoshPlz]

"I don't know where to begin. Not long ago we had buried my father, who died on the frontlines. And now seemingly they want to finish me off. I don't want to serve in the Ukrainian army. And they gave me a conscription slip. Signed by some V. Arapov. You aren't leaving me any choice here. I don't want to rot in a trench for Ukrainian government. I don't want to, do you understand? You aren't leaving me any choice. I'm not even 17. Why aren't you going to fight yourselves?"

Spoiler: NSFL

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RIP

Poor boy. He should have waited until he'd be given an AK to take some of the ones responsible out with him. But I know that's wishful thinking. They likely make very sure not to arm the forcefully conscripted without having guns pointed at them at all times.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

[ Analysis ] Secret plan of Wagner PMC in their Bakhmut Offensive​

[ Analysis ] Secret plan of Wagner PMC in their Bakhmut Offensive | Ghostarchive

ghostarchive.org

 

[Animewasamistake]

Offensive?

So with Wagner forcing the retreat of some of the AFUs best brigades, talks have begun on the subject of the Melitopol offensive. had this gone ahead as is it may well have broken through the shoddy units holding that front. but in the time between the rumblings of an attack and now. Wagner have detached about 2 battalions of their best troops to the area. and 2 entire combined arms armies have arrived. which means at minimum 30,000 extra men have arrived.

Facing them? a couple under stregth mech brigades and a couple TDBs oh and a single rifle battalion.

Bahkmut
I have been struggling to comprehend the stupidity the AFU have shown here. they have committed so much firepower and national morale to this city, and now when they face total collapse they panic. the army demands a retreat, the political types demand a fight to the death. i am unsure what will be the final result but its not looking good.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

Bahkmut
I have been struggling to comprehend the stupidity the AFU have shown here. they have committed so much firepower and national morale to this city, and now when they face total collapse they panic. the army demands a retreat, the political types demand a fight to the death. i am unsure what will be the final result but its not looking good.

Well, Bakhmut still holds and Prigozhin himself is saying the resistance is fierce and does not lack for ammo. If it does hold, and the AFU certainly have determination in spades, Russia will once again be left with an egg on its face, a pile of corpses and nothing to show for it, which makes it worth it for the Ukraine and its Washington sponsors.

 

[Stoneheart]

The Z is literally banned in Germany by the same law they've used to ban the Totemkopf and Hakenkreuz.

some states planned to do it, but never did.

 

[White_N]

Ok, I'm done with the "other thread" for a while. It's neck-deep in hypocrisy and idiotic virtue signaling that would rival Twitter and Reddit; it's not even funny or retarded funny anymore.

Bleeding hearts who care about civilians and children suffering in this war, totally ignoring or rejoicing in the shooting of towns in the DNR and LNR, white supremacists who are fanatical about the Urkaine-Jewish oligarchs who have made war between white Slavs, it is simply embarrassing.

 

[CaptainAutism69]

The Z is literally banned in Germany by the same law they've used to ban the Totemkopf and Hakenkreuz.

Strafgesetzbuch section 86a - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Literally Nazis. No seriously, a Polish friend of mine never heard of the brand and thought it was low-key support for Russia. Don't blame him...Poles are simple people.

 

[Stasi]

Melitopol

Speaking of which, here is a nice vid from a local TL;DW and if you don't speak slav, guy is mocking UA authorities who he says post constant fakes about them and must think the people there are idiots. Talks about and shows new buildings and roads that have been built, that people have jobs and social payments, all schools are running and kids go to after school activities etc. Ends by saying UA authorities are afraid of people telling the truth because they themselves (Ukraine) have no truth.

There are tons of such videos and the sentiment is the same - people are shocked that Russian authorities have built and provided more to the people in 6 months than """independent""" Ukraine has in over 30 years. Don't see these on English language web much though, probably because vids of tanks blowing up or whatever are more interesting to most people.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

See? Everybody loses trying to defend Ukraine! Us 'Muricans lose our tax dollars, Britbongs lose the ability to heat their homes for the winter! Truly an egalitarian society worth fighting for.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

They are obviously using CLEAN coal that helps the environment ya dumb vatniks God!

Hey whatever happened to all that clean gas bs?

 

[MrJokerRager]

The Z is literally banned in Germany by the same law they've used to ban the Totemkopf and Hakenkreuz.

Strafgesetzbuch section 86a - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

some states planned to do it, but never did.

From what I found in Google.

Basically two states known as Bavaria and Lower Saxony made announcements on going after the Z.

Displaying 'Z' symbol could be criminal act in Germany, ministry says

Individuals who display the letter "Z" in Germany to symbolise support for Russia's war in Ukraine could be liable to prosecution, an Interior Ministry spokesperson said on Monday.

www.reuters.com

And some story from October last year where some man in Hamburg was fined for it, pending appeal.

Germany: Man fined €4,000 for hanging Russian Z sign on car – DW – 10/25/2022

A court in Hamburg fined a man €4,000 euros for displaying the "Z" symbol in the rear window of his car. The sign is used by Russian propaganda as a sign of support for the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

www.dw.com

 

[White_N]

"I wish we had more peace" - Lysychansk residents try to cope with the difficulties of life in the frontline town

Lysychansk is a closed frontline town, where the press and other outsider civilians are not allowed in. Just 11km away is Belogorovka, where fierce fighting is now taking place. Artillery and HIMARS shelling are very frequent here, and enemy DRGs are operating in the nearby forests.

For security reasons, the internet is shut down, cellular communications are poor and there is no lighting on the streets at night. Electricity, gas and water supplies have not been fully restored. However, people are returning to their hometown. New shops are opening and the market is working.

Vitaliy is a security guard in a small shopping centre in Lysychansk. Despite all the difficulties, he is happy to be able to work and is grateful for the humanitarian aid that is often brought to the city.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Where_have_you_been_for_eight_years?