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[XYZpdq Jr.]

On the subject of Desantis, Anthony Sabatini was doing an interview a day or two ago where he mentioned that although Florida has the law about running for office there might be a technicality about "seeking the nomination" for the presidential election. So he maybe wouldn't need to resign until he got a nom, but tbh I think if that was the case Ron would have pulled that trigger already

 

[Random Internet Person]

"Russian puppet" name-calling in 5...4.....3....2.....

You mean he hasn’t already received it?

One does have to wonder how many of the House GOP have privately agreed with the 20 that held things up at the start in the last few months. There has to be some actual and unignorably pressure on him to actually be conservative and not just a minor speedbump for the Uniparty.
Unless he's just biding his time until the heat dies down.

Except I’m pretty sure at least until MTG is out of the House, I’m not sure if the heat will ever die down for Kevin.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Probably premature, but McCarthy has been pretty good for the most part.

Despite early speculation that the GOP would backtrack on their promises, it appears that the FC still has Mccarthy’s balls in a vise. He himself should not be trusted, but for the time being it looks like he’s beholden to their interests.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Workers flexing their muscles? That’s been done, and all we got from it was a trucker convoy being crushed, and a train strike being broken and causing East Palestine.

Also, in terms of war, I think this article is underestimating the right and them being being more than happy to collaborate with the left and the “email job caste”.

Here’s the issue though: Trump supporters don’t trust anyone but Donald himself to address their complaints, with consolidated power not seen since the likes of FDR.


And that’s because Boebert and MTG are always looking over his shoulders.

The fact there was any sort of push-back is absolutely terrifying to them, even if they did crush the truckers and rail workers.

The fact is they wanted all of this to already be ancient history. The fact they have had to keep up their propaganda and war footing going 24/7/365 since Jan 6th is causing them to overextend massively. The fact is the right hasn't really even begun to fight. Most right wingers haven't even gotten to the point of getting even mildly violent. And yet they are already close to the breaking point.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

The fact there was any sort of push-back is absolutely terrifying to them, even if they did crush the truckers and rail workers.

The fact is they wanted all of this to already be ancient history. The fact they have had to keep up their propaganda and war footing going 24/7/365 since Jan 6th is causing them to overextend massively. The fact is the right hasn't really even begun to fight. Most right wingers haven't even gotten to the point of getting even mildly violent. And yet they are already close to the breaking point.

That will never happen, just cope harder and vote with your wallet, I'm sure you'll outvote the people who literally print money any day now.

 

[like_shutup_&_drive_scoob]

Yes, this is true. They are deemed safe by the "Intellectual Dark Web" of wannabe philosophers who are there more to just make sure you don't push too hard against the Overton Window. And since Daily Wire basically existed post 2016 election because Shapiro left Breitbart in a huff over Michelle Fields (Metokur video here) and was drafting behind Trump, he took the damage and the DW was allowed to be respectable new conservatives. This gave them that undeserved sense of superiority because they were not being hit with the arrows and look better by comparison. This is why Matt Walsh annoys me so much, he's just repeating 4Chan shit from 5 years ago, his thing about that Dylan tranny was just a cleaned up version of "you will never be a woman." Maybe if he didn't suck complete ass talking to Joe Rogan he'd be better than just the "hardass Never Trumper"

 

[Gar For Archer]

One does have to wonder how many of the House GOP have privately agreed with the 20 that held things up at the start in the last few months. There has to be some actual and unignorably pressure on him to actually be conservative and not just a minor speedbump for the Uniparty.
Unless he's just biding his time until the heat dies down.

I posted this earlier, but if 9% of your elected representatives (20/222) are willing to put their careers on the line to openly rebel against party leadership, the GOP really doesn’t want to fuck around and find out what happens if the House Republicans are forced to pick sides instead of this current policy of strategic ambiguity.

In the calculus of the speaker vote, because there were already 20 rebels willing to hold the line (way more than what was needed, mind you), any House Republicans with FC sympathies had way more to lose by declaring their allegiance than the FC would gain from their support. While I’m nowhere near qualified to guesstimate what % of the House Republicans would split off in a hypothetical schism*, even just the Taliban 20 would be disastrous for the GOP.
*my personal hunch is 20-30%, the source being I pulled the number out of my ass

Honestly though, the reality is that right now nobody really wants things to escalate to that point. Potential FC sympathizers certainly don’t want to be put in the position where they have to pick a side, because actually having to stand up for what you believe in could mean losing your seat entirely. The GOP risks public embarrassment and complete destruction. But the FC, too, doesn’t really want the party to split as anything other than a last resort, because in many ways they are bluffing hard. While I’m sure they’ve had talks with the other Republican congresscritters to gauge support, talk is cheap; they run the very real risk that if push comes to shove, they will be the ones left standing on stage in their underwear, with all the support they expected having chosen the safe option of towing the party line. The current status quo might actually be their strongest strategic position, because they can leverage the threat of potentially peeling away 20-30% of the Republican Party to much greater effect than they would be able to achieve as an independant party.

 

[tehpope]

This is some grade-a projection here, Charles.

 

[Calvin Coolidge]

watches Ben Shapiro religiously

 

[ForTheHoard]

Putting pot smokers in jail is such a good idea that I can't believe no one has thought of it yet. The only thing that would make the future conservative platform more appealing is if they invade Iran, ban porn, and reintroduce NAFTA.

Pot laws didn't fix the beaner problem in the 1920s and they won't fix the nigger problem in the 2020s.

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

This is how you protect democracy, by impotently begging a news network to censor footage of a guy in a buffalo head dress being taken on a guided tour around Congress.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[ZMOT]

I've gone from being mostly neutral about stoners to unironically wishing for a final solution to the "dude lmao weed" problem. They are so fucking obnoxious and I hate standing in a cloud of funk everytime I'm waiting to cross the street.

Scott Greer is right. Anti weed shit should be a part of the conservative platform.

I take temporary funky smell that you can air out and stops once done over the stench of piss and vomit puddles, not to mention the noise and behavior while consuming booze.

it's also no big revelation that people who consume a substance above recreational level have other issues, but hey lets ban it all just because. while we're at it let's behave like women in the 1920, all the fucking alcoholics who can't hold down a job with anger issues and depression will become productive and happy members of society once we ban that too...

"There's nothing inherently good or bad about the plant at all, it can be useful and have health applications, but also, like any other drug, it can have adverse effects," said Dr. Humphreys.

only worthwhile sentence in the whole wall of text. rest is "it's not my fault I smoke too much overly strong weed, the green plant makes me do it!".

Massive hole in my TV viewing with no Craig Furgeson. Still miss that show.

take solace in the fact that the mandatory TDS and current year shit would've ruined the show, he got out at the right moment. sucks but this way we can still enjoy old videos of celebrities getting wet panties...

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

take solace in the fact that the mandatory TDS and current year shit would've ruined the show, he got out at the right moment. sucks but this way we can still enjoy old videos of celebrities getting wet panties...

and he was around long enough to get some Doctor Who people as it blew up in the USA
his robot skeleton sidekick was cool, too

 

[tehpope]

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Read: raise taxes on the middle class and the poor.

 

[Vyse Inglebard]

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Politicians say more taxes will solve everything
And the band played on......

 

[CarlosDanger]

Nine more boxes of potentially classified documents taken from Biden's lawyer's office in Boston.

Nine boxes of Biden documents were taken from Boston office | Fox News

archived 9 Mar 2023 01:13:13 UTC

archive.md

 

[Michael Wade]

How do we know that the US didn't know Pearl Harbor was coming? After all, WW2 had been going for two years by that time. And the US was already providing materiel support to the Allies, what else could galvanize public support for them to have people sign up to die in Europe?


When Germany’s invasion of Poland in 1939 touched off World War II, Roosevelt called Congress into special session to revise the Neutrality Act to allow belligerents (in reality only Great Britain and France, both on the Allied side) to purchase munitions on a cash-and-carry basis. With the fall of France to Germany in June 1940, Roosevelt, with heavy public support, threw the resources of the United States behind the British. He ordered the War and Navy departments to resupply British divisions that had been rescued at Dunkirk minus their weaponry, and in September he agreed to exchange 50 obsolescent destroyers for 99-year leases on eight British naval and air bases in the Western Hemisphere.

United States - World War II

After World War I most Americans concluded that participating in international affairs had been a mistake. They sought peace through isolation and throughout the 1920s advocated a policy of disarmament and nonintervention. As a result, relations with Latin-American nations improved substantially...

www.britannica.com

Pearl Harbor

The attack was preceded by months of negotiations between the U.S. and Japan over the future of the Pacific. Japanese demands included that the U.S. end its sanctions against Japan, cease aiding China in the Second Sino-Japanese war, and allow Japan to access the resources of the Dutch East Indies.

Striking the Pacific Fleet at anchor in Pearl Harbor carried two distinct disadvantages: the targeted ships would be in very shallow water, so it would be relatively easy to salvage and possibly repair them, and most of the crews would survive the attack since many would be on shore leave or would be rescued from the harbor. A further important disadvantage was the absence from Pearl Harbor of all three of the U.S. Pacific Fleet's aircraft carriers (Enterprise, Lexington, and Saratoga).

Attack on Pearl Harbor - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

On December 7, 1941, when Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, eight battleships, three cruisers and four destroyers were present in the harbor.

It's possible but I am not certain. I'm a big WW2 buff and the back and forth over this is very heated.

I do know we didn't have precise knowledge of when they would attack, and didn't expect the damage to be as severe as it was. The Japanese were a bunch of yellow monkeys to them at the time.

Roosevelt was genuinely rattled by the attack and roughly said something like " how will the American people accept this"!? Privately he wasn't sure he'd keep the presidency right after it. The evidence swings both ways in any case.

 

[Gehenna]

The fuse continues to burn. How short is it now?

The fun part of this is that this one will sting more directly. It is solid proof the Uniparty was going to throw the whole senate into danger. Any member of congress not directly aligned with the Uniparty, and several members of it who were out of the loop, get to suddenly reevaluate their positions. Direct strain on the Uniparty's ability to do anything.

Look at this:

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That is the face of someone who is desperate to keep The Narrative in place. Someone who knows everything's slipping out of his hands. Look at that shit. Oliver's about to fucking cry. He knows what's coming in 2024, and he'll do everything in his power to try and prevent it.

e: To be fair I have seen one piece by John Oliver that I 100% agreed with him on and that's asset seizure/forfeiture cases where the pigs pull people over and just steal their shit. God Help you if you're driving up the East Coast and have any significant amount of cash on you and you get pulled over.

Oliver annoys me, he is one of the talking heads who brings up legit, serious issues that both the Left and Right can agree need to be addressed... but then proceeds to loudly shout the entirely left-wing solution while deriding the right. He simultaneously brings up a serious issue and nukes any chance of it ever being addressed.

Probably premature, but McCarthy has been pretty good for the most part.

His balls are in a vice, and in continuing good news, the Freedom Caucus is still doing exactly what they should. Nothing. They have not made more demands, merely ensured enforcement of the prior. This is perfect, it means they will have a ton of backing and capital to make new demands next round and have him cave to those. It's exactly how the uni party got and kept its power and is now being used properly.

If they keep up the pattern, they can completely undo all the entrenched rules within half a decade.

 

[Gar For Archer]

It's possible but I am not certain. I'm a big WW2 buff and the back and forth over this is very heated.

I do know we didn't have precise knowledge of when they would attack, and didn't expect the damage to be as severe as it was. The Japanese were a bunch of yellow monkeys to them at the time.

Roosevelt was genuinely rattled by the attack and roughly said something like " how will the American people accept this"!? Privately he wasn't sure he'd keep the presidency right after it. The evidence swings both ways in any case.

I thought the general consensus (if it can be called that) was that the Americans had intercepted Japanese communications and knew they were planning something, but they didn’t know if the messages they intercepted were real plans or a decoy and certainly underestimated the scale of the attack. I could be wrong with this next detail as I’m trying to remember a book I read in high school, but IIRC the Japs actually got delayed due to bad weather, meaning that the date of the planned attack came and went uneventfully, leading more credence to the idea that it was just a psyop (except we now know it obviously wasn’t).

Definitely a complicated situation I could see both sides of the argument for, though I personally lean a bit more towards an American miscalculation.