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Plus it’s not like she’s saying that’s what she meant when she wrote them! Only that the same messages can apply.
Diseased Rowling Derangement Syndrome - "TERF/Woke Author Bad!!1"
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Holy fuck, the absolute hypocrisy of these schmucks.View attachment 4786228
JK Rowling feels gender identity movement 'echoes' warnings in Harry Potter
The author said she 'absolutely knew' that her comments on transgender issues would make fans 'deeply unhappy'.metro.co.uk
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If they claimed that they've read Harry Potter books back in the days, then let me just say that either they're lying or they just can't bother to actually do factual research. They're like how juggalos trying to explain how magnets work.
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Question to lorefags, what is the deal with the elfs? Also, has anyone used them as a wronged class?
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They are pretty much slaves working for free but they take a lot of pride in their work and, with rare exceptions, this kind of relationship with their wizards \ wizard families is their culture that they are very proud of so they take someone trying to "free" them or pay them as offensive.
If you want to free an elf you need to give it a piece of clothing - for most elfs it's like being fired, very saddening and humiliating.
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We get to see three house elf characters through the story, IIRC. One is Dobby, who's considered a freak by other house elves for wishing for freedom. The second is Winky (sp? Been a long fucking while), who is specified as being normal for a house elf and so goes into deep depression when she's freed. The third is Kreacher, a cantankerous old elf who was severely mistreated by most of the Black family (read: a bunch of assholes) but who remained loyal to them and particularly to the one that treated him with dignity (and who takes a shine to the main characters for doing the same). No one in the books except for Hermione considers them a wronged class, and the house elves themselves think she's annoying when she tries to free them. By the time they meet Kreacher she's learned her lesson and simply treats him (and other house elves) as humanely as she can.
Narratively, the house elves help show just how fucking weird the wizarding world is, and how applying muggle rules to it is not a good idea. It also explains how Hogwarts is kept maintained with only one janitor and one groundskeeper, and how the school's three meals are provided since you can't conjure food under that setting' magic system (and the elves of Hogwarts are described as a very cheerful bunch that are treated well by their master). Back in the day I thought it was an interesting way to show a non-human species with a very non-human mindset, but these days it's all just haram to people.
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Gondolindrim
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I'll admit, I'm not too sure what this one's mad about. It's been well established that JK isn't going to back down. Nothing new.
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The Hermione aspect is also used as a parody of well meaning middle class liberals.
She had a point in that Dobby, Winky and Kreacher all were mistreated by their masters, but her campaign for elf freedom missed out on the fact that Winky was punished by her master by being forcibly freed. Freed house elves were also subject to some sort of minimum wage legislation (which is why Dobby and Winky ended up at Hogwarts - Dumbledore was apparently the only wizard who would employ them).
Most of the relatable parody is that she doesn't really do anything for the house elves. She spends a lot of her time creating admin work for running her organisation (e.g. nominating Ron and Harry as treasurer and secretary) but all it really does is result in her giving out badges and flyers and pressuring people into giving her money for membership fees (which people eventually do to try and avoid her badgering them). She also knits a bunch of hats and hides them around Gryffindor common room in the hopes the elves will find them and accidentally free themselves, which ultimately results in the house elves refusing to clean the common room and Dobby just collects the hats (nobody tells her to spare her feelings).
She brings up some potentially valid points like "the elves only want this because they were indoctrinated into wanting this" but she doesn't listen to anyone (not least the elves who explicitly and repeatedly tell her they find this insulting) and isn't willing to consider incrementalism (FREE HOUSE ELVES NOW! rather than e.g. mandate minimum welfare standards for house elves and when they feel more impowered see about giving them a fair wage). She's also supposed to be a teenage girl and that's the main point of the plot - an amusing parody of a well meaning but overwrought teenager who doesn't achieve anything with their activism; I'm sure we can all remember having one in our class or even being one.
If you want to get all meta-textual about it, the name SPEW (Society for the Promotion of Elvish Welfare) is likely a reference to the Victorian-era Society for the Promotion of Employment for Women. Given what we know of JK Rowling - she's a feminist who came of age in the 1980s - the house elves may not be a stand in for slavery but for housewives. There's plenty of women today who'd really like to be stay at home mothers but the rush to achieve full equality in the workplace means this is no longer an affordable option for many families.
Most of the relatable parody is that she doesn't really do anything for the house elves. She spends a lot of her time creating admin work for running her organisation (e.g. nominating Ron and Harry as treasurer and secretary) but all it really does is result in her giving out badges and flyers and pressuring people into giving her money for membership fees (which people eventually do to try and avoid her badgering them). She also knits a bunch of hats and hides them around Gryffindor common room in the hopes the elves will find them and accidentally free themselves, which ultimately results in the house elves refusing to clean the common room and Dobby just collects the hats (nobody tells her to spare her feelings).
She brings up some potentially valid points like "the elves only want this because they were indoctrinated into wanting this" but she doesn't listen to anyone (not least the elves who explicitly and repeatedly tell her they find this insulting) and isn't willing to consider incrementalism (FREE HOUSE ELVES NOW! rather than e.g. mandate minimum welfare standards for house elves and when they feel more impowered see about giving them a fair wage). She's also supposed to be a teenage girl and that's the main point of the plot - an amusing parody of a well meaning but overwrought teenager who doesn't achieve anything with their activism; I'm sure we can all remember having one in our class or even being one.
If you want to get all meta-textual about it, the name SPEW (Society for the Promotion of Elvish Welfare) is likely a reference to the Victorian-era Society for the Promotion of Employment for Women. Given what we know of JK Rowling - she's a feminist who came of age in the 1980s - the house elves may not be a stand in for slavery but for housewives. There's plenty of women today who'd really like to be stay at home mothers but the rush to achieve full equality in the workplace means this is no longer an affordable option for many families.
Basically the whole house elf subplot is simply just to flesh out the lore, give Hermione something to do while Harry is doing Wizard Olympics and serve as a lighthearted joke about bluestocking schoolgirls. Unfortunately because JK Rowling bad, it's now taken as gospel that this means she thinks we should bring black slavery.
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I'm fairly certain that headline could've said literally anything about her and their comment would be unchanged. It's a tactic, like how they think screeching into the void about how she's a troon genociding maniac who must be stopped long and/or loud enough will make it fact. Now it's dogpiling anything they can on top of "who would have thought she could be any worse" as if it's well established fact she's an evil cretin, now we're talking about this and how she's even more evil of a cretin now.
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i dont think theres one
but theres a few youtubers starting to cover his antics.
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Been playing this game in my downtime, and a mission I did the other night made me audibly laugh since the troons have decided to make this a Jewish issue too:
When I did a mission with Sebastian Sallow, the end of the mission gave me the option to tell him a friendly goblin was helping us out behind the scenes. Without spoiling the story too much, Sebastian hates Goblins, and you can literally say "Not all Goblins..." to which he promptly interrupts you and says that he hates all of them. I can't tell if this was a clever joke the devs put in there, but it made me crack up
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When I did a mission with Sebastian Sallow, the end of the mission gave me the option to tell him a friendly goblin was helping us out behind the scenes. Without spoiling the story too much, Sebastian hates Goblins, and you can literally say "Not all Goblins..." to which he promptly interrupts you and says that he hates all of them. I can't tell if this was a clever joke the devs put in there, but it made me crack up
Points to every house
JK wants her fans (especially this so-called journo) to calm down and stop with all autistic screeching.
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Does he ever get a groinsaw in the actual books?
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This is what some others said to me as well, but I'm not versed enough in the lore to comment on elfs. I was just curious because JKR is maligned for her anti semetic goblins and other things, but nobody jumped on the literal slave class. If they represent anything at all. Though it's kind of hilarious and sad that if they were housewives, the woke don't care. Thanks everyone, for the explanations.
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What Rowling needs to do is fire her management team. Nobody ever told her to not give an inch to these lunatics.
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Rowling could release a statement saying she prefers waffles over pancakes and the troons would try to spin it as some kind of -phobic dog whistle. Sad thing is this doesn’t even seem like hyperbole to me anymore.
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She's become Public Enemy #2 to them (take three guesses as to who #1 is). She can't even take a breath without these bleeding eunuchs screeching "GENOCIDE REEEEEEEEE". And even innocents who just want to play a game based on her work are getting caught in the crossfire (Pikamee and Silvervale being the two most notorious examples - they're both natal women too, big thunk).
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In the first book a disgusting troll assaults children in the bathroom.View attachment 4786228
JK Rowling feels gender identity movement 'echoes' warnings in Harry Potter
The author said she 'absolutely knew' that her comments on transgender issues would make fans 'deeply unhappy'.
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Anti Trans metaphors were there the whole time
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I know exactly which mission you're talking about. It's pretty funny the way it plays out.
#NotAllGoblins
It was already implied here on the thread