Law 'Mutilating children for profit.' California teen sues doctors over breast-removal surgery at age 13 in Kaiser Permanente's SECOND blockbuster... - I hope she wins

Full Title: 'Mutilating children for profit.' California teen sues doctors over breast-removal surgery at age 13 in Kaiser Permanente's SECOND blockbuster trans lawsuit

• Layla Jane says her puberty blockers and hormones were a medical 'torment'
• Kaiser Permanente doctors offered trans care after minutes-long consultations
• Another California teen Chloe Cole last month sued the same hospital

A California teenager has started to sue the doctors who at age 13 cut off her breasts in a medical gender change she now bitterly regrets, in America's latest blockbuster trans lawsuit.

The 18-year-old, who is referred to as Layla Jane, says she should never have been put through the 'torment' of testosterone hormones at age 12 and puberty blockers and surgery the next year.

She is one of a growing number of detransitioners, as they are known, who come to regret their procedures and sue the doctors they accuse of pushing them into irreversible treatments instead of counselling.

'I don't think I should have been allowed to change my sex before I could legally consent to have sex,' Layla said on Fox News.

'I don't think I'm better off for the experience, and I think transition just completely added fuel to the fire that was my pre-existing conditions.'

According to legal papers, Layla experienced moodiness, anxiety, gender confusion and anger issues as a child. At age 11 learned about radical transgender ideology and went online to learn more about the new trend.

Layla, says she should never have been put through the 'torment' of a breast removal surgery at age 13

Layla experienced moodiness, anxiety, gender confusion and anger issues as a child

Layla started receiving testosterone hormones at age 12 and puberty blockers and surgery the next year to help her become a boy

She self-diagnosed that she was a boy and believed transitioning would solve her mental health problems.

According to the suit, doctors at the Permanente Medical Group and Kaiser Foundation Hospitals rushed her on to cross-sex hormones and a double mastectomy without properly assessing her mental health problems.

Her evaluations lasted only 30 minutes and 75 minutes, records show.

Legal papers identify the carers as Susanne Watson, a psychiatrist in Oakland, San Francisco-based plastic surgeon Winnie Tong, and Lisa Taylor, a pediatric endocrinologist in Oakland.

They are accused of 'intentional, malicious, and oppressive concealment of important information and false representations' that saw Layla pushed into the procedures.

It's claimed they presented Layla Jane and her parents with a terrifying choice: 'Would you rather have a live son, or a dead daughter?' — language that echoes complaints from other detransitioners across the US.

'These are decisions I will have to live with for the rest of my life,' Layla said in a statement.

'I'm ready to join the growing group of detransitioners so that no other child has to go through the torment I went through at the hands of doctors I should have been able to trust.'

Layla speaks with a voice deeper than is usual for a young woman — which is understood to be the result of taking the male hormone testosterone for several years. She started to detransition at age 17.

Her lawyer, Harmeet Dhillon, a conservative activist and CEO of the Center for American Liberty, said Kaiser has emerged as a 'repeat player in the growing field of permanently mutilating children for profit.'

Dhillon also represents Chloe Cole, another California 18-year-old detransitioner who last month sued Kaiser for removing her breasts when she was 15 and pumping her with puberty blockers.

'Layla's medical providers grossly and recklessly breached the standard of care in this case, and others,' said Dhillon.

'We look forward to holding them liable for what they did, and together we seek to deter this assembly-line, insensitive, and destructive treatment of children with these woke, unscientific, and barbaric practices.'

Layla experienced moodiness, anxiety, gender confusion and anger issuesfrom the age of six

She started receiving testosterone hormones at age 12, which eventually led her togrow facial hair

Layla self-diagnosed that she was a boy and believed transitioning would solve her mental health problems

Layla, now 18, appearing on television news with her lawyer, Harmeet Dhillon, a conservative activist and CEO of the Center for American Liberty

Layla seeks unspecified financial damages. The company has 90 days to reply before she formally files her lawsuit, according to a 19-page legal complaint.

Kaiser spokesman Marc Brown did not comment on the case, but said its doctors 'practice compassionate, evidence-based medicine founded on sound research and best medical practices.'

'When adolescent patients, with parental support, seek gender-affirming care, the patient's care team carefully evaluates their treatment options,' Brown told DailyMail.com.

'The care decisions always rest with the patient and their parents, and, in every case, we respect the patients' and their families' informed decisions about their personal health.'

Gender-affirming care, as it is known, covers everything from puberty blockers to cross-sex hormones and, in rare cases for trans children under 18, surgery. Several medical associations say such healthcare saves lives among a suicide-prone group.

But opponents of trans ideology say sex is determined at birth and cannot be changed, that medical advisory groups have been hijacked by trans ideologues and that politicians must intervene to stop parents, doctors, or therapists from permanently harming children.

Many are alarmed by the sharp uptick in teenage girls with autism and other mental health woes asking for sex-change drugs in recent years, and of new studies linking puberty blockers to weaker bones and osteoporosis.

Whether to allow drugs and surgery for trans-identifying children has become a frontline in America's culture wars, with more Republican bills aimed at banning gender-affirming care in 2023 than in any year to date.

Dhillon says she receives 'thousands of calls from people all over the country' who want to sue healthcare providers for bungled trans care, but that 'unfortunately, most are beyond the statute of limitations.'

A recent YouGov survey of 1,000 adults across red and blue states found that Americans were largely against gender-affirming procedures for children.

Some 61 percent said rejected giving puberty blockers to 12-year-olds, while 21 percent said it was acceptable. They also deemed cross-sex hormones and breast surgeries unacceptable by similar margins.

A recent YouGov survey of 1,000 adults across red and blue states found that Americans were largely against gender-affirming procedures for children

Critics of the trans movement often point to de-transitioners, who come to regret their decisions to change gender and seek reversals. Pictured: Scars on the chest of Prisha Mosley, who had her breasts removed when she was 18 and now wants to reconstruct her chest through surgery that is expected to cost thousands of dollars

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[CYKA RUSH B]

No, that would be the experiments Mengele and his cohorts ran on concentration camp denizens, especially children. The comparison is apt. The conclusion to be drawn is that comically evil, child-obsessed perverts will find a way to carry out their filthy behaviours, no matter who is in charge.

I get what you're saying, but it smacks of ignorance to make this comparison when the "evil bookburner" meme actually depicts ze germans IRL burning down trans ideology. The incongruity triggers my autism in addition to the rhetorical device being totally played out.

 

[Grand Wizard Wakka]

My 6 year old daughter wants to be a cat. Time to permanently surgically mutilate her!

 

[AnOminous]

My 6 year old daughter wants to be a cat. Time to permanently surgically mutilate her!

Chop off her actual ears, mutilate them into a crude facsimile of cat ears, graft on a tail by flaying her back skin, then forming it into a crude mockery of necrotizing tissue that soon dies and falls off like Jonathan Yaniv's "clit," and of course jerk out her fingernails with a pair of pliers and replace them with cat's claws with some filthy quack in Tijuana.

If you don't do that she'll totally commit suicide!

 

[Zero Day Defense]

My 6 year old daughter wants to be a cat. Time to permanently surgically mutilate her!

Chop off her actual ears, mutilate them into a crude facsimile of cat ears, graft on a tail by flaying her back skin, then forming it into a crude mockery of necrotizing tissue that soon dies and falls off like Jonathan Yaniv's "clit," and of course jerk out her fingernails with a pair of pliers and replace them with cat's claws with some filthy quack in Tijuana.

If you don't do that she'll totally commit suicide!

This is off-topic, but when catgirls are drawn with cat ears on their head, are they ever supposed to still have human ears?

 

[Bakarina]

My 6 year old daughter wants to be a cat. Time to permanently surgically mutilate her!

I wanted to be a cat at that age but my cruel mother wouldn't allow for that. It's truly better for her to get whiskers grafted on and for her to shit in a box.

This is off-topic, but when catgirls are drawn with cat ears on their head, are they ever supposed to still have human ears?

Depends on who you ask. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. I've seen it go both ways for a variety of reasons (and then there's shit like Loveless -- a BL manga where cat ears + tail are synonymous with virginity. Because japan is fucking weird).

 

[AnOminous]

This is off-topic, but when catgirls are drawn with cat ears on their head, are they ever supposed to still have human ears?

Nobody cares, Moby. Nobody cares. No one.

 

[Vecr]

This is off-topic, but when catgirls are drawn with cat ears on their head, are they ever supposed to still have human ears?

This is absurdly off-topic. Though, remember when they grew a human ear on the back of a mouse?

 

[Return of the Freaker]

can you read? go back and read what @Bakarina wrote that I was responding to.

never mind I'll take pity on your sad retardation - white Americans cared about gender neutrality in toys, they cared real hard. They stopped having kids. Mexicans are the opposite. There is no "Libre ser tu y yo." Its not that troonery is driven by beaners, beaners don't drive anything except uninsured shitboxes, but the beaner dollar is why the US went from Free to Be You and Me to a pink toy aisle and a blue toy aisle.

Are you retarded? The pink/blue toy aisle is traditional gender roles, which if you don't actively enforce or promote kids will by and large allign with their "stereotype" anyway. This existed long before the Reagan amnesty or the Bracero program. "Free to be you and me" re: girl/boy toys only existed because of second wave (((feminism))) anyway

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

I think I hold the same disdain for the “detransitioners” as I do for the troons themselves. In the end, they’re all morons who are looking for asspats, just at the extreme opposite end of the spectrum.

Does this include people who were trooned out as children? If so, then you are a fucking retard.

 

[pwnest injun]

Penal Code section 203 provides: "Every person who unlawfully and maliciously deprives a human being of a member of his body, or disables, disfigures, or renders it useless, or cuts or disables the tongue, or puts out an eye, or slits the nose, ear, or lip, is guilty of mayhem."

 

[AnOminous]

I think I hold the same disdain for the “detransitioners” as I do for the troons themselves.

No you don't, because that's not even thinking. That's tarding.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

No you don't, because that's not even thinking. That's tarding.

I hate all the attention whores who were given puberty blockers at age 10 after a 5 minute talk to the gender quack!
These castrated fuckers wanted it and now they are whining that their bodies are ruined and they will never be able to have children on their own!!1

 

[Uncle Phil]

The touchdown dances happening in this thread over a victimized kid... very strange to me.

Adults should know better than to buy into a scam, or to dive into a cult to escape their shitty unfulfilled existence, but I've got sympathy for those groomed into it as children. Kids are not remotely equipped to deal with the kind of social pressures, empty promises and outright predatory "medical professionals" that are recruiting them into this shit.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

The touchdown dances happening in this thread over a victimized kid... very strange to me.

Adults should know better than to buy into a scam, or to dive into a cult to escape their shitty unfulfilled existence, but I've got sympathy for those groomed into it as children. Kids are not remotely equipped to deal with the kind of social pressures, empty promises and outright predatory "medical professionals" that are recruiting them into this shit.

With this kind of stuff even the adults aren't completely unsympathetic. Cult behavior, scams and grooming tactics are really effective on isolated, lonely people and there are plenty of them these days.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

A recent YouGov survey of 1,000 adults across red and blue states found that Americans were largely against gender-affirming procedures for children

Oh is that what it showed?
Looks like 53% are against teens getting HRT
54% oppose breast reduction
61% oppose puberty blockers
59% oppose boob jobs for kids

That is the majority. And I thought we lived in a democracy where the majority rules?

Oh right that only matters when the lunatics have the majority.

Interesting to note that YouGov surveys tend to skew left wing.

I am also willing to bet that the 18-19% that are not sure would be swayed to unacceptable if they spent a few hours perusing the stink ditch.

 

[AnOminous]

That is the majority. And I thought we lived in a democracy where the majority rules?

Well, some right-wingers correctly point out we actually live in a republic. They're right about that, even though a republic does require public input and that the government's actions reflect public opinion at least to some extent. A republican form of government requires that there be a way the public can turn its preferences into actual policy, and the sort of government we have in America does that, with varying degrees of adequacy.

This is, however, the only form of democracy that actually works. You can't just let the whims of mobs run everything. That's why we have profoundly anti-democratic institutions like the Supreme Court (unelected) and the Senate, so that even a minority can curb lunacy directed against it. Even a single Senator can say "wait a fucking minute here" and slam the brakes on a bad (or even a good) proposal, forcing the issue of whether this is something a government should even do.

Anyway, I think people are increasingly tired of this troon shit being forced down their throats even though it is a fringe minority opinion that you should castrate and mutilate children the instant they display any "non-conforming" behavior.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Well, some right-wingers correctly point out we actually live in a republic. They're right about that, even though a republic does require public input and that the government's actions reflect public opinion at least to some extent. A republican form of government requires that there be a way the public can turn its preferences into actual policy, and the sort of government we have in America does that, with varying degrees of adequacy.

This is, however, the only form of democracy that actually works. You can't just let the whims of mobs run everything. That's why we have profoundly anti-democratic institutions like the Supreme Court (unelected) and the Senate, so that even a minority can curb lunacy directed against it. Even a single Senator can say "wait a fucking minute here" and slam the brakes on a bad (or even a good) proposal, forcing the issue of whether this is something a government should even do.

Anyway, I think people are increasingly tired of this troon shit being forced down their throats even though it is a fringe minority opinion that you should castrate and mutilate children the instant they display any "non-conforming" behavior.

I was being sarcastic about the democracy part because the type of people who fall into the Yeah butcher the kids percentages likely think mob rule is a good thing because they think they are part of the mob and always will be.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

Can you even produce muscle tissue in your chest if you're a F to M troon who attempts to work out?

 

[glass_houses]

With this kind of stuff even the adults aren't completely unsympathetic. Cult behavior, scams and grooming tactics are really effective on isolated, lonely people and there are plenty of them these days.

Even smart, savvy adults can end up as victims of cults and con artists. Predators don't prey on the weak, they prey on the vulnerable, and that's how you get so many people saying, "I don't know why I fell for this. I/my spouse/my kids were really sick, my parents died, I lost my job, I was in such a bad place and then this con artist came and promised me the world..." everyone finds themselves at rock bottom and in a bad mental and emotional state at some part in their life, and that's when the sharks start circling. Yeah, they made a really stupid and obvious mistake by trusting X, but their brains were so overloaded at the time that they just weren't thinking clearly. It's not a case of gullibility on their part, it was laser precise timing on the part of an accomplished and skilled predator.

 

[AnOminous]

I was being sarcastic about the democracy part because the type of people who fall into the Yeah butcher the kids percentages likely think mob rule is a good thing because they think they are part of the mob and always will be.

I wasn't accusing you of being stupid or anything, just pointing out the troon mob's ability to do what they actually want is severely limited by our scheme of government. Give it a couple decades, it will pass.

Innumerable lives will be ruined in the interim, which sucks, but there will probably not be another civil war on the subject. And if there is one, troons will be gassed.