Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Random Internet Person]

I wonder if this is why more and more nations are flipping America the bird and siding with China.

I think you nailed it. Russia and China have inherited the mantle of “fighting woke”, whether they want it or not.

 

[crows in guns]

Brother I got bad news for you most websites havent updated to the current army physical fitness standards and I dont much about the jar heads but im sure its almost the same as the army. Women in the army physical have slightly lower standard's but Thats because they already lower physical Requirments. Just look up something called the act.

An 18 year old woman in the Marine Corps has to run 3 miles in the same time limit given to 50+ year old men.
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[demicolon]

Even if they have their own DU weapons it still makes sense to capture foreign ones for study of their armor-piercing capabilities, for example.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

China and Russia could ruin America within 5 years, while forming new alliances with Europe. How?

China make almost all of the most important Western products for American companies like Apple, Nike, Disney and Amazon. China are notorious for patent infringement and stealing ideas.

China could stop supplying America with American products and instead supply them to Russia, under a different name, at a vastly reduced cost.

Russia could sell those products directly to Europe with little to no disruption to their systems or daily lives, with the exception of selling products much cheaper than their American counter-parts.

The American system would fall in on itself, as Apple can no longer compete against a drastically cheaper competitor, while struggling to maintain high levels of stock. Likewise for the rest. Amazon would suffer losses because it wouldn't be able to supply the West with cheap Chinesium products, as they would be now sold to and by Russia.

The consumers in Europe, when faced with no new gadgets and Chinesium, or cheap, Russian knock-offs, would migrate to the latter, especially in times of extreme economic hardship. Ironically, those consumers created by American companies would be pushed away from said companies, due to American financial policies.

 

[Gondolindrim]

Hmm...why don't we take a look-see at the "Early Life" section on Wikipedia?

If only life were so simple.

 

[The Foxtrot]

If only life were so simple.

But that's the thing, comrade, it often is *that* simple!

 

[CaptainAutism69]

here's one site that posted it

Seymour Hersh: The Cover-Up - scheerpost.com

The Biden Administration continues to conceal its responsibility for the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines.

scheerpost.com

Seymour Hersh: The Cover-Up - scheerpost.com | Ghostarchive

ghostarchive.org

Thanks babe

 

[Wahgonga]

That's tanks from 1986, and they stopped making this version in 1992. This is literally (best case scenario) a year after USSR fell. They are still sending them, essentially, soviet equipment

I was a tank commander on an M1A1, as well as a transition instructor for different versions of the tank.

The M1A1 is more than capable of being an effective contemporary MBT. The main differences between the A1 and A2 are an independent viewer for the commander, touchscreen interfaces, and the tweaking of certain minor issues, like a larger bustle rack. The basic performance parameters of firepower, mobility, and armor protection are essentially the same for both versions.

On the A2 the commander's independent thermal viewer (CITV) gives the tank a real advantage in long range multiple target environments like the open deserts of the Middle East. It doesn't give you much of an advantage in urban or heavily forested areas.

All Abrams variants are complex machines that require significant training to employ safely and effectively. Setting aside my opinion on whether we should send tanks or not, the A1 version requires less training time than the A2, and the A2's upgrades would not provide much of an advantage in Ukraine, so it's a logical choice given the combat needs and urgency of the current situation.

And these aren't tanks that have been in a boneyard for a decade, they are newly rebuilt/refurbished machines.

 

[Corpun]

Has Bakhmut fallen yet or is it basically doomed to fall? Looks like this is going to be a big loss for Z-man if he doesn't pull out.

 

[Wahgonga]

Quality counts for something. To my knowledge, the only loss of a Challenger 2 to external fire was in a "safe" base where the lid was open and some retard in an Abrams sneezed on the fire button.

It will be interesting to see if the MOD give the Hohols Chobam/Dorchester armor.

Edit: women can be really good in some aspects. I would remind you that the Battle of the Atlantic and the Battle of Brittain were (tactically) won by girls shoving little wooden blocks around and counting really fast.

That accident was caused by a factory production defect that allowed hot gasses to leak from the breechblock upon firing the main gun igniting improperly stowed ammo/propellant in the turret. And to the best of my knowledge, that wasn't a joint training exercise involving Abrams tanks, it was just Challengers.

The Abrams doesn't have a "fire button". There's a complex series of both physical safeties that have to be disengaged and commands that have to be executed in proper order before the gunner or commander can fire the main gun. It's a physical impossibility to fire an Abrams main gun by "sneezing".

 

[Kane Lives]

I wonder if this is why more and more nations are flipping America the bird and siding with China.

I can only imagine how hard muslim foreign ministers/ambassadors have to keep a straight face when being lectured about fag rights by their US counterparts.

 

[Vesperus]

The Abrams doesn't have a "fire button"

I was being facetious, if you couldn't tell. But I think I'm mixing two incidents up: double checking, it was a Challenger on Challenger incident in Basra where someone had a special moment and pressed the "yeet" button.

(And yes, I know Challengers don't actually have a yeet button.)

 

[Male Idiot]

You could say the gunner was mentally... challenged? Ba dum tss.

On China flooding European markets, it maybe a good plan, but they may not want to eat the money loss. They already make cheap phones.

 

[Rei is Shit.]

There are far better defensive positions to the east.

I really wonder what some people see when they look at maps.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

More tourists. Why can't they contain themselves?

Challengers themselves never engaged in an actual, peer to peer combat. The most they did was fling shells at T-55's sitting in a dug-in trench with no visibility and outnumbered 4 to 1, something that NATO touts as "one of the greatest tank battles in history".

 

[I faked the autism]

"Who is pushing this LGBTQ agenda and why?"

>Who
I've got a funny pasta for this.

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Arthas: Yellen?
Yellen: I'm sorry, Arthas. I can't watch you de-jew this

 

[MrJokerRager]

More tourists. Why can't they contain themselves?

Challengers themselves never engaged in an actual, peer to peer combat. The most they did was fling shells at T-55's sitting in a dug-in trench with no visibility and outnumbered 4 to 1, something that NATO touts as "one of the greatest tank battles in history".

Its interesting that the British decided a few years ago to get rid of tanks entirely.

As their MOD believes tanks are obselete for modern warfare.

I guess this was their best chance to clean house.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

How would the west hope to stop China taking Taiwan? We don't have the weaponry and sanctions will hurt us more than it hurts them.

By hoping the top guys in china think their military is more retarded than our own.

Doesn't matter if the US has enough missiles for a protracted war. It just has to have enough to make the Chinese think its going to be too costly from the get go. Half a weeks worth of missiles is a problem in a week long war. Not in a two day war.

 

[Octavia]

Its interesting that the British decided a few years ago to get rid of tanks entirely.

As their MOD believes tanks are obselete for modern warfare.

I guess this was their best chance to clean house.

>Literally cannot afford to put jets on their aircraft carrier
>Literally getting rid of their tanks because they subscribe to the amerimutt doctrine that's only useful vs goat farmers
>Literally barring people who want to join the armed forces based on their race & gender (white men) and pushing through unqualified and in most circumstances unfit minorities on fast tracks
>Literally only had ammunition to last for 3 days in a war vs Russia, is currently giving it all away to Jewkraine for no reason
>Literally wondering why nobody is left in the country who's patriotic

Should we just let Z annex? Is it all over for us /Teabros/....?

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

By hoping the top guys in china think their military is more retarded than our own.

Doesn't matter if the US has enough missiles for a protracted war. It just has to have enough to make the Chinese think its going to be too costly from the get go. Half a weeks worth of missiles is a problem in a week long war. Not in a two day war.

America can't rain missiles down on Taiwan without suffering massive collatoral damage and if they did, China walk away as the victors.

Short of dropping nukes on China - which wouldn't stop China due to to land mass, the Americans have no option other than end humanity as a whole. I think people would intervene and stop that happening.