Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[01169]

Russia and China aren't good. In fact they are bad.
But globohomo and USA has gotten objectively and noticably worse.

Absolutely this. You can live in these countries and actually have a small part of that "American dream" everyone was always raving about. The US despite all its flaws projected this image into the world and I don't care if it was a lie back then you could still believe it. Now you think you can't even live a normal life without being subjected to the horrors of minorities and left-wing psychos.

Sure you can't criticize the CCP or support the wrong Oligarch but damn you don't have to endure all the woke bullshit in those countries and have a normal job, raise a family and carve out an existence.

If you're poor your fucked in almost any country except super cucked EU-countries like Germany. But if you're moderately wealthy there's absolutely no reason to not see Russia or China as a viable option compared to nigger infested shitholes like the US cities.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

That's kind of the point. Saddle Ukraine with enough unsustainable debt that the West owns Ukraine forever.

It's kind of like that book "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" where the author talks about bribing Latin American governments to do the bidding of the USA, mainly selling oil, lucrative construction/energy/rebuilding contracts, etc. If they take the bribe, the government becomes indebted to the International Monetary Fund and becomes America's bitch. If they don't take the bribe, assassinations and "regime change"

Obviously Ukraine will have to pay for all these Western tanks, planes, and ammo, even if they lose. Sooner or later "Slava Ukraini" will be trademarked by Disneyland, and Kiev will be sponsored by JP Morgan Chase, McDonald's, and Onlyfans. Native Ukrainians would be unwilling to pay the war debt and would just flee, if they haven't already. Ironically Ukraine would retain more of its native culture if it surrendered to Russia.

After the war, the rulers of Ukraine will announce that Ukraine is in demographic crisis, and before you know it, there will be 20 million africans and pakistanis swarming in hoping to fuck Ukrainian war widows. All those symbols used to inspire the population will be banned, and what remains of Ukraine will be trapped behind the Rainbow Curtain.

 

[The Ugly One]

Russia and China aren't good. In fact they are bad.
But globohomo and USA has gotten objectively and noticably worse.

Since Russia is no longer the USSR and no longer has a global, revolutionary ideology it's trying to push around the world, as far as foreign trading partners go, they're pretty good. They buy your shit. You buy their shit. And that's, uh, that's it. That's the deal.

With America, you buy our shit, we buy your shit, and you have annual ass sex celebrations in your capital city or your head of state gets shot in a ditch.

 

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Ted Nugent doubles down for the lulz.
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The Taliban having fought both the Soviets and Americans.

Have come to a decision over who was worse lol.

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@Useful_Mistake

 

[The Elusive Earl]

Considering the state of the US military the "sword" is more like a floppy rainbow colored dildo.

You forget to mention it also has glitter on it, to hide the shit stains.

We call it "The Penetrator ", you bigots.

 

[trashdustry]

ukranian soldiers stop a mother with a small child for "driving recklessly", calls her scum, swine, threatens her for speaking to him in "swine language", and then proceeds to shot a couple of rounds in their car, with child still inside

Двач

«Розмовляй со мной державной мовой, свинья. Свинячьей мовой со мной не розмовляй» Где-то в Украине вооружённые солдаты остановили женщину с ребёнком за то, что она обогнала их колонну на трассе. Сначала они обматерили её и назвали свиньёй, а потом обстреляли её машину. UPD: По данным...

t.me

 

[Captain Wetbeard]

Sure you can't criticize the CCP or support the wrong Oligarch but damn you don't have to endure all the woke bullshit in those countries and have a normal job, raise a family and carve out an existence.

If you're poor your fucked in almost any country except super cucked EU-countries like Germany. But if you're moderately wealthy there's absolutely no reason to not see Russia or China as a viable option compared to nigger infested shitholes like the US cities.

With China your best bet would be to hang around the special economic zones like Shenzhen, since you'll have a shocking amount of freedom there. If you really want to cut costs you could also live in Thailand and commute to Shenzhen for work/ to hangout in a dope tech district.

If you don't mind Muslims Afghanistan is a reasonable choice as well since they don't have so many gay restrictions on gun ownership, and there won't be any woke shit to deal with. Uruguay is hit or miss, but if you don't get mouthy about the royal family or shit talk Christianity you'll mostly be left alone. Importing tech is extremely expensive there though.

 

[There Is Light At The End]

ukranian soldiers stop a mother with a small child for "driving recklessly", calls her scum, swine, threatens her for speaking to him in "swine language", and then proceeds to shot a couple of rounds in their car, with child still inside

Двач

«Розмовляй со мной державной мовой, свинья. Свинячьей мовой со мной не розмовляй» Где-то в Украине вооружённые солдаты остановили женщину с ребёнком за то, что она обогнала их колонну на трассе. Сначала они обматерили её и назвали свиньёй, а потом обстреляли её машину. UPD: По данным...

t.me

what a bunch of pigs

 

[MugolEx]

You do realize that pretty much all of this territory was given up without a fight?

Yeah. That's what typically happens when you're retreating.

Russia can afford to go slow.

Then why did Russia try to speed run the invasion at the beginning of the war?

The CIA is already impatient with it, there's already an unofficial timer by this fall if Ukraine doesn't make gains, shit gets real.

I would like to know where you got this information from because it sounds made up as a cope. And you mean to say any FURTHER gains.

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Yeah. That's what typically happens when you're retreating.


Then why did Russia try to speed run the invasion at the beginning of the war?


I would like to know where you got this information from because it sounds made up as a cope. And you mean to say any FURTHER gains.

We have two containment threads. Given how you don't appear to live in our current timeline, you want to head to a thread called "Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion", you will feel like at home there. Here you're running the risk of a threadban, see post number one.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Yeah. That's what typically happens when you're retreating.


Then why did Russia try to speed run the invasion at the beginning of the war?


I would like to know where you got this information from because it sounds made up as a cope. And you mean to say any FURTHER gains.

So far the only gains Ukraine made are -20% to territory, -80% to population, and +3000% to debt.

 

[Sister Miriam Godwinson]

The tone of Western news keeps slowly shifting from "This is how Ukraine can still win" to "Ukraine's victory is looking increasingly unlikely". What caught my attention, however, is this:

A poll last week released by the International Republican Institute, a U.S.-based think tank, showed 97% of Ukrainian respondents think Ukraine will win, unchanged from April of last year, while 74% said Ukraine will maintain all territories it held in 1991 as a result of the war.

I wonder who the fuck they were polling, the other thread?

 

[MugolEx]

We have two containment threads. Given how you don't appear to live in our current timeline, you want to head to a thread called "Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion", you will feel like at home there. Here you're running the risk of a threadban, see post number one.

Holy Shit. All I said was Russia wasn't doing so hot in a post that I made about the bullshit numbers Ukraine was putting out there saying they killed a gorillian Russians. I don't even support Ukraine. I'm just pointing out Russia isn't in that great of a spot from were they wanted to be a year ago. Is that seriously to sensitive of a topic?

 

[Yak-130 Mitten]

Holy Shit. All I said was Russia wasn't doing so hot in a post that I made about the bullshit numbers Ukraine was putting out there saying they killed a gorillian Russians. I don't even support Ukraine. I'm just pointing out Russia isn't in that great of a spot from were they wanted to be a year ago. Is that seriously to sensitive of a topic?

You are repeating all the hot takes that we have had thousands of times when trying to own the vatniks, all of which can be answered if you actually spend more than a minute thinking about the entire issue.

 

[Whoopsie Daisy]

The tone of Western news keeps slowly shifting from "This is how Ukraine can still win" to "Ukraine's victory is looking increasingly unlikely". What caught my attention, however, is this:



I wonder who the fuck they were polling, the other thread?

The narrative is starting to shift, the shills online have gone from "total russian destruction, they won't steal an inch of land" to "When the negotiations happen in Autumn, we know Russia will take some territory".

Which is infuriating, because if the MIC had agreed a DMZ between Russia and Europe, the west wouldn't have suffered like it has and Ukraine and Russia wouldn't have lost so many men.

 

[Defensive Ella Purnell]

Then why did Russia try to speed run the invasion at the beginning of the war?

Because a quick war is always better than a slow one. I suspect Russia expected the Ukrainians to fold as quickly as they did 2014. Just because they wanted the easy route it doesn't mean they're not willing to do it the hard way.

Seems like they have the upper hand again and they're content to defeat Ukraine through attrition and positional warfare.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Holy Shit. All I said was Russia wasn't doing so hot in a post that I made about the bullshit numbers Ukraine was putting out there saying they killed a gorillian Russians. I don't even support Ukraine. I'm just pointing out Russia isn't in that great of a spot from were they wanted to be a year ago. Is that seriously to sensitive of a topic?

I think you would be much happier in the Ukrosimping thread, which is that way: --------> https://kiwifarms.net/threads/ukrainian-defensive-war-against-the-russian-invasion.150025/

New-ish video:

The Tale of Leaving a Ukrops behind, subtitled:

Holhol grenade throw: everything goes better with vodka

Щто? Moskals use T34? Suka, Bogdan have THIS! Slava Ucraina!

(WWI Maxim techinical lol)

 

[01169]

I'm just pointing out Russia isn't in that great of a spot from were they wanted to be a year ago.

Yeah they aren't. But the point is they don't have to be. Of course they wanted to this be over sooner. At best in a flash. Didn't happen. So now it's a grinding down. And the only two numbers that matter anymore are 43 million and 143 million.

 

[Corpun]

Burgers lol
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American culture is centered around hohols. They have holidays for hohols. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free hohols. They listen to hohols music. They beg for a hohol as their president. They dress and act like hohols. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from hohols. They post sassy gifs about hohols. They watch sportsball in worship of hohols. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing hoholsymbols everywhere in honor of hohols. They use hohols slang like "Київ" and "Дніпро". When you say "Kievan Rus'" they're not thinking of the medieval Russian state. They're thinking of the hohols. Their cities are completely overrun with hohols. They worship their ZOGbot government disproportionately sending gibs to hohols and their global police force of soldiers training hohols. Their men sit around watching hohols cry for freedom while their women sit around watching hohols on talk shows. They worship hohols like Volodymyr Zelenskyy and Ivanni Vasilyy and Mihailo Borisvytch and the late Stepan Bandera while attacking the Russians who actually built their country before hohols took over. Their news is filled with hohols and their media are topped by hohol puff pieces. They send hohols to the Olympics and celebrate when the hohols win because those hohols are true defenders of democracy. They watch hohol propaganda to a point where "Euromaiden" does not make them think of an CIA backed coup but about hohols overthrowing their Russian masters instead. They will tell you how much they hate Russians and how Hoholia is must be defended, they are just pretending to love hohols but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of hohols loving hohols.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I would like to know where you got this information from because it sounds made up as a cope. And you mean to say any FURTHER gains.

https://kiwifarms.st/threads/russian-special-military-operation-in-the-ukraine.150029/post-15177898