Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

>The Nazis planned to do naughty things with Eastern Europe

The Eastern Europe where the soviets had already started millions of people to death and filled mass Graves and gulags with political undesirables? That Eastern Europe?

Whew, it's a good thing such a terrible fate was averted, indiscriminate mass murder is such an improvement on discriminating mass murder
The lesser of two evils isn't ever a palatable choice but that was the choice which was there and the end result is something I think the former Warsaw Pact can agree worked better even if they resent it and deserve that privilege. As for the soviets, as odious as they were and far reaching in their own right as they turned out to be were much easier to contain than the Nazis were ever going to be in the event of their victory. Remember THAT WW2 wasn't the first time that the continent saw an imperialistic and aggressive Germany and had to suffer from it. Russia tends to poke and prod but they're off in their own corner for the most part but the Germans in both their modern empires threatened not only Eastern Europe but struck and challenged Western Europe (and by extension the rest of the world) as well.
In the years leading into and during WW1, they had defeated and humiliated the French, attempted to start a war during the Morocco crisis, invaded Belgium and brutalized the country as it originally sought neutrality, used Lenin as an agent to foment the October Revolution, and had spent decades attempting to upend the British navy with their own. They already had a history of doing this kind of thing and in the lead up to WW2 and during it they partitioned the Czechs, probably cheated the Austrians into being annexed in an election, openly flaunted their earlier treaty instead of properly renegotiating, used a false flag on the polish to split them with the soviets, terror bombed England, and betrayed their own ally in a mad dash for oil. Every political figure in the world saw these guys start shit for 50 years and if it came down to having the Germans rule the continent under a bunch of eccentric wackjobs like the Nazis or having the Russians slice off a portion that you could feasibly contain then you would probably make that same choice.

Really !? Well fine I'll give you that. But hey, lets bring up Czechoslovakia. Last I checked it wasn't the Soviets who ceded to Hitler one of the world's largest armaments manufacturers for free. That came with shit load of ready tanks, ammo, etc. That made actual blitzkrieg into France possible.

And can you guess which countries denied the Soviet Army passage and or alliance to go and assist Czechoslovakia and offer to stomp the Nazi's together ?

Can you also guess which of those countries ended up invaded along with Nazi Germany, Czechoslovakia ? And was planning to side with Germany if the Soviet intervened ?

The reality is Western Allies (And Poland) fucked over any prospect of cooperation with the Soviet Union in stopping the Nazi's before 1940. On top of that betrayed their ally.(Czechoslovakia.)

And gave the Nazi's fuck load of Czech war material, factories, steel mills, etc. Which in turn the Germans put to good use.
Yeah, I wasn't arguing the western allies were exactly perfect. They probably thought the Nazis would be useful as a buffer state at that point or otherwise weren't willing to give the soviets a win thinking they could handle it themselves later anyway. Of course, that was a mistake which the French in particular paid for dearly and will never live down.
 
>Uses discord for battlefield coms
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Have a source for this image? I just refuse to believe that NATO is using Discord... Ukrainians maybe, but not NATO.

Finland Joining NATO is just a meme its not a big deal "Trusted sources like weeb union on YouTube said so".
Wow a whole division's worth of troops added to NATO, I'm sure this will totally be worth the added diplomatic and administrative burden for the US, another group of mush mouthed dead weight retards for the US to defend, wonderful. I already treated Sweden and Finland as nations that would defend as if they were in NATO long before this war, this just formalizes the pre-existing relationship that everyone already knew existed. More dead weight nations that can barely project within their own country. Finland has a posted manpower of maybe 25k on active duty, hardly worth the squeeze here.
 
I know everyone is ready to break into their stash of gorilka they put into the washing machine/fridge/AC(hopefully not the exploding kind) while you were stealing it from Ukraine but I don't think the entirety of Artemovsk is in RF control. I believe the western portion is still occupied by AFU. More like the pincer closed but left a little meat.

E: Here's a bear with a pot on its head and Russian people so OT

 
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I came across this tweet with a horrifying demographic pyramid potted plant of Ukraine.

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Wasted 30 minutes unsuccessfully trying to find the source of the graphic on The Times website, but it seems plausible with 8 million refugees and 6 figure KIA (out of pre-war population of 44 million).

I also have no idea how these globohomo bean counters are treating the liberated territories. If those people are still counted as Ukrainian, then this should look roughly 6 million worse than it already does.
 
I don't know what you mean by this. The Kingdom of the East Franks came into existence in the 9th century and the existence of Germanic people is attested historically and archeologically deep into antiquity. Do you mean Bismarck? Or is this some Polack kangs thing?
Poland was proclaimed as a princedom in 966 by Mieszko the first. It became a kingdom in 1025. Since then, it was Poland.

Germany wasnt proclaimed until 19th century. You could argue about the start - 1806, 1815, 1870 - but thats when the concept of unified german state was put into action. Kingdom of east franks has nothing to do with it. If you want to go with the definition of a "country that existed on those lands under different names" then you could argue that roman provinces on western banks of rhine river were first iteration of germany, but let's be honest - neither romans, nor franks, nor myriads of small HRE states felt as "germans". They lived in territory named "germania", but the term saw first widespread use around the time when prussia got uppity.
 
So I'm on the road at the moment and am visiting the czech republic. Looking for things to do and Facebook events suggested a 'Bandera party' in Pilzen... looks like there's been a few and it's a regular event.
Comments in the group range from Vince types, to Czechs telling them to fuck off back to Ukraine with that Nazi stuff
 
So I'm on the road at the moment and am visiting the czech republic. Looking for things to do and Facebook events suggested a 'Bandera party' in Pilzen... looks like there's been a few and it's a regular event.
Comments in the group range from Vince types, to Czechs telling them to fuck off back to Ukraine with that Nazi stuff
Sweet, I look forward to them hosting Bandera parties in Germany as well
 
Facebook events suggested a 'Bandera party' in Pilzen... looks like there's been a few and it's a regular event
There was a backlash. The organizers have apologized, said they didn't know using the name would be such a big deal and changed it to "Ukrainian Party" pretty much immediately.
 
Have a source for this image? I just refuse to believe that NATO is using Discord... Ukrainians maybe, but not NATO.
I can believe it, just look at the current US and western military.
besides, how else you gonna groom someone while on the job without having to change accounts? people being lazy is a common reason for all kinds of dumb shit.

I suppose the relevance to the current shitshow is that if WW2 is Globohomo's origin myth, and the 90s were it's apogee, the current era is decadence and decline in fast forward.
and like any myth there's a lot of retards believing anything as long as it's "gospel". 6 gorillion for example (when it was closer 11, but who cares about the other 5 who weren't part of the tribe) or how generalplan ost would've never worked in reality. might as well believe atlantropa was totally a thing that was gonna happen.
it's on the same level as thinking the stanford prison experiment was totally legit and gender wasn't just the convenient excuse of the sexpest john money to see two twin boys fuck each other. might as well start reading reddit in earnest at that point.
 
There was a backlash. The organizers have apologized, said they didn't know using the name would be such a big deal and changed it to "Ukrainian Party" pretty much immediately.
Their first 'party' was in November, looks like it was changed a week or so ago. The apology is bullshit though given the history of Bandera. Nice to see plenty of based Czechs though....there's hope yet!
 
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