Opinion Too Much of America Is Emptying Out. More Immigration Can Help.

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Too Much of America Is Emptying Out. More Immigration Can Help.​

Most large American cities are continuing to lose people, the US Census Bureau reported last week, even as many smaller and mid-sized counties are growing. And while politicians (and, increasingly, billionaire investors) like to make hay over the cultural and economic reasons for moving, the most striking aspect of the US’s shifting population isn’t which counties are losing people. It’s the sheer number that are experiencing population loss.

Consider that 48 of West Virginia’s 55 counties lost people, as did 56 of Louisiana’s 64 parishes. A majority of the counties in Iowa, Ohio, Mississippi and North Dakota lost population.
Northern New England grew, as remote workers fled the expensive metro areas of the Northeast in search of more rustic accommodations. But almost all of upstate New York shrank, as did Western Massachusetts. Even in fast-growing Texas, most of the arid western counties and much of South Texas lost people. So did big stretches of rural Pennsylvania, southwestern Virginia, and all of Puerto Rico.
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Some transition of population from place to place is healthy and natural, and the pandemic induced large dislocations in working habits and daily life. And in some expensive metro areas, such as New York and San Francisco, some population loss may be beneficial.

In New York, for example, Manhattan actually gained population between July 2021 and July 2022 as people took advantage of lower prices to move in from the outer boroughs. Compared to the national average, most of those outer-borough neighborhoods (as well as the inner-ring suburbs that also lost people) remain pretty expensive. Over the next few years, prices will fall to reflect the diminished demand and people will return, just as they already have to Manhattan. The result will be a somewhat poorer, somewhat more affordable metro area — that continues to have all the qualities that people who love New York love about it.

Even so, it will be a challenging fiscal environment for local governments, which have pension and other obligations that were undertaken under different circumstances.

The situation is much worse for places that were affordable before the pandemic. Cities and towns in rural Midwest that lose people are looking at a larger fiscal loss, because there’s no guarantee people will return even at lower prices. They could adjust to the smaller population by raising taxes, but that won’t exactly help attract new residents. A permanent loss of population will be a blow to local businesses, too, which will further reduce government revenue.

Even before the pandemic, several large Midwestern cities — most notably St. Louis, Detroit, Cleveland and Milwaukee — were in a difficult spiral of decline. When demand for living in a place becomes so low that the market price of housing falls below the cost of building a new home, bad things happen. Landlords end up with little financial incentive to invest in the upkeep of their property.

(Homeowners are less likely to let their houses fall into disrepair, but the money and sweat equity they put in may be wasted.) Homes stay vacant or get demolished.

The risk is that this dynamic will now spread to a much broader set of communities — smaller towns and suburbs, potentially even Chicago.
In any one of these cases, it’s easy to point to some mix of idiosyncratic factors or policy errors behind the decline. It’s also not so hard to imagine policy tweaks that could make a community more appealing and reverse a cycle of decline.

But this is where scale matters. County A can gain population from County B — but in a country where 47% of all counties are losing people, this is a zero-sum game. The reality is that a huge share of American communities are losing people not just because of specific local conditions, but because the national population growth rate — 0.4% in 2022 — is very, very slow.

Immigration rebounded last year to pre-pandemic levels, which pushed Manhattan and several Sun Belt central cities back into positive population growth. But even pre-pandemic immigration levels remain significantly below those which preceded the Great Recession.

That’s largely a decline in illegal immigration relative to its levels of a few decades ago, which no politician will bemoan. But if the US had replaced that illegal migration with visas for people with in-demand skills, it would have a stronger economy and more resilient communities. Birth rates, meanwhile, have been sliding for a long time, and there’s also been an alarming recent increase in deaths — from Covid, from drug overdoses, from traffic accidents, from homicides and suicides.

The result of this slowdown in population growth is a more challenging landscape for leaders in all kinds of places. It’s easy for partisans to pit Florida against Illinoisor Texas against California, or for cities to pit themselves against the suburbs. But the fundamental reality is one of broad decline, in which growth is the exception rather than the rule.

And only national leaders have the power to raise the national level of population growth, which would make life easier for local leaders.

There’s no one solution here — making policy more supportive of parents while addressing the frightening decline of life expectancy are both complicated, multifaceted issues. But legal immigration remains a fast-acting and relatively straightforward option that deserves a consideration from Congress, separate from any controversies about asylum-seekers.

Educated, skilled workers in particular would help stabilize communities in decline while bolstering the economy as a whole.

There’s no good reason for places to be struggling with population decline even while tens of millions of people want to move to the US. This country can’t and won’t let in everyone who wants to come — but that’s not a good reason to keep all of them out.
 
Demographics are destiny.
I suppose that's why they want everyone to be homosexual. If we make less babies they can just import the difference with a bunch of people who don't share our values.
>another article that's just a rich, Harvard-"educated" Jew openly calling for white replacement

Boy I sure am glad that this is just a conspiracy theory that has been debunked by the experts or else I'd be really worried right now!
Honestly I don't give a shit what happens to white people, they're a bunch of soycucks who deserve to go extinct.
 
They'll simply say all those racist whites in the suburbs and rurals are hoarding all the wealth, and the average gibsmedat voter will believe them.
And do what about it? As I said, these cities are already on the brink of failure - New York City is such a deficit disaster that I don't know that there's any saving it, even if you assume drastic cuts that won't actually happen.

The money simply isn't there. Being mad at whitey won't magically keep the gibs flowing.
 
And do what about it? As I said, these cities are already on the brink of failure - New York City is such a deficit disaster that I don't know that there's any saving it, even if you assume drastic cuts that won't actually happen.

The money simply isn't there. Being mad at whitey won't magically keep the gibs flowing.
It's not about solving actual problems or creating long term sustainability.

It's about buying more time and holding on to political power just that bit more longer by giving the underclass hordes an approved outgroup to hate, rob, and assault, which also just happen to be their political and social enemies.

What they do after that? They don't know, they'll cross that bridge when they get there. Again, there is no planning for the future. TPTB live in the eternal present.
 
What they do after that? They don't know, they'll cross that bridge when they get there. Again, there is no planning for the future. TPTB live in the eternal present.
Well, I agree with you there. But that's a big part of why I'm cautiously optimistic - I don't see any scenario where the current trajectory doesn't lead straight to a fiscal brick wall.

And does anybody care who's got the political power in a dying Detroit-esque shithole? Congratulations, you're the king of the garbage heap.
 
Honestly I don't give a shit what happens to white people, they're a bunch of soycucks who deserve to go extinct.
NO. FUCK NO. ANYTHING BUT THAT. Then all I'll have left to socialize with are beaners (who hate my ass anyway), and ghetto/college educated niggers (who also hate me for "leaving the plantation").
 
It's not about solving actual problems or creating long term sustainability.

It's about buying more time and holding on to political power just that bit more longer by giving the underclass hordes an approved outgroup to hate, rob, and assault, which also just happen to be their political and social enemies.

What they do after that? They don't know, they'll cross that bridge when they get there. Again, there is no planning for the future. TPTB live in the eternal present.
The true enemy of democracy is long-term thinking.
 
Why would someone from another country want to move to a rural area with no jobs and no opportunity?

Looking at the California map, I can come up with some pretty good theories about the population declines in a lot of those counties, and a lot of it boils down to no jobs and no opportunities.

Yeah you can move a hundred or a thousand or however many Guatemalans or Somalians into Trinity County, and what are they going to do there? Grow pot? Along with literally everyone else in the county because that's the whole economy there?

People are leaving the county because there's no university, no entertainment, no sports, no good restaurants, drug use is ubiquitous, the woods are scary, the highway washes out all the time, there's virtually no employment for people with a college degree that's not working in the woods or for the county, and the whole place catches fire every year.

If people who live there and know the area are leaving, there's a reason for that.
 
Well, I agree with you there. But that's a big part of why I'm cautiously optimistic - I don't see any scenario where the current trajectory doesn't lead straight to a fiscal brick wall.

And does anybody care who's got the political power in a dying Detroit-esque shithole? Congratulations, you're the king of the garbage heap.
Except for the whole part that it's going to leave a lot dead bodies and broken people in the aftermath that we'll probably never fucking recover from while the assholes responsible jet off to their emergency bunkers in New Zealand. Assuming of course they don't manage to also start World War III in the process, which these short-term thinking dipshits seem absolutely determined to do.
 
Except for the whole part that it's going to leave a lot dead bodies and broken people in the aftermath that we'll probably never fucking recover from while the assholes responsible jet off to their emergency bunkers in New Zealand. Assuming of course they don't manage to also start World War III in the process, which these short-term thinking dipshits seem absolutely determined to do.
I think we've moved outside the scope of demographics movements and immigration here.
 
I think we've moved outside the scope of demographics movements and immigration here.
It's related to the same cause as the demographics/immigration these people are pushing. The sick, Gordon Gekko-ized degeneration of the wielding of economic and political power that eschews ensuring long-term healthy growth, strength, and stability in favor of the instant-gratification of extracting as much wealth and/or power as quickly as possible - damn the consequences, we'll worry about that later, or just leave some other sucker holding the bag.
 
Remove fumigate every major metropolitan area with high explosive utility shells and sailing gas


Pol Pot was based as hell death to intellectuals death to people who wear glasses death to urbanite
The true enemy of democracy is long-term thinking.
You see democracy so to speak has a very hard time with high time preference individuals that's why democracy so to speak is a form of communism
 

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NO. FUCK NO. ANYTHING BUT THAT. Then all I'll have left to socialize with are beaners (who hate my ass anyway), and ghetto/college educated niggers (who also hate me for "leaving the plantation").
Sorry dude, I just gotta vent now and then. The absolute state of white people and how they're all becoming self-hating soycucked effeminate degenerates and stuff just makes me think there's nothing worth saving there. And that's not even on the possibility of dating most white chicks, they eat that shit for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I grew up in a leftist family so I kinda "left the plantation" myself, but sometimes I wonder if the game plan is to bring the "plantation" to me.
 
Sorry dude, I just gotta vent now and then. The absolute state of white people and how they're all becoming self-hating soycucked effeminate degenerates and stuff just makes me think there's nothing worth saving there. And that's not even on the possibility of dating most white chicks, they eat that shit for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

I grew up in a leftist family so I kinda "left the plantation" myself, but sometimes I wonder if the game plan is to bring the "plantation" to me.
Well, you have seen those neo-agrarian articles right?
 
Are these people fucking hoarders? Do they just see empty space and their particular autism compels them to fill it?
The declining birth rate is something that actually needs to be addressed because TPTB do not want to reduce government spending in any capacity and they understand that they will not be able to collect taxes from old people. We are moving in the same direction as Japan where a ton of people are going to be living late into their eighties and nineties at the same time. Medicare will have to suffer that strain, so will Social Security. My grandmother is 92 and she's still active and fully aware. She's one bad fall away from dying, but bar that she'll live for another ten years without issue, having already produced nothing of value for the last thirty years straight, and that's expensive for the government.

Literally none of this is a problem and all of it is assumed to be the benefits of modern society as long as we have enough young people working and paying taxes. But all the kids these days are black and brown, thus they drop out of school and join gangs instead of work forces.

Getting women to join the work force did exactly what people wanted it to do, except now women are also collecting social security and they live longer and go to the doctor more frequently. They also marry less, have fewer kids, and have them later in life. And this is happening all over the country. So we are, in essence, completely fucked.

Immigration is the only thing left. That or letting the entire society burn down. I'm good with the second option myself.
 
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