ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

Then there are the outright criminals, basically just street trash who use antifa as cover for committing acts of sociopathic violence just because they like doing that.
It’s also one of the reasons why Kyle Rittenhouse turned into a hero/martyr for exposing what he does to people that use Antifa as a cover-up. If only more would follow his example.
 
There have been a couple of posts about Finnish antifas joining the Russian "Denazifiers", their leader Petri Viljakainen got killed a couple of months ago. This happened a month ago but half a dozen Finnish volunteers got killed in Ukrainian counteroffensive, confirmed by Prigozhin.

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This isn't even a dunk on the pro-Russian farmers, but just like the antifa militants joining the PKK Kurds, it's a national security threat having highly trained antifas ready to kill for their ideology returning from war zone, so I genuinely wish the Ukies kill all the Finnish volunteers. Or Russia can keep them, either way works.
 
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There have been a couple of posts about Finnish antifas joining the Russian "Denazifiers", their leader Petri Viljakainen got killed a couple of months ago. This happened a month ago but half a dozen Finnish volunteers got killed in Ukrainian counteroffensive, confirmed by Prigozhin.

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This isn't even a dunk on the pro-Russian farmers, but just like the antifa militants joining the PKK Kurds, it's a national security threat having highly trained antifas ready to kill for their ideology returning from war zone, so I genuinely wish the Ukies kill all the Finnish volunteers. Or Russia can keep them, either way works.
The sad thing is I think the entire western world both the US and Europe are facing a up and coming political crisis as the far right and far left who are gaining training from war come back they will turn those tactics they learned onto eachother. I very much expect to see in five years a Neo con getting car bombed by some leftist. Right wingers shooting up left wing conferences, and a world wide European years of lead type situation.

It wouldn't surprise me if we see antifa types graduate from black blocs to car bombs.
Pro-Trump meme maker Douglass Mackey aka Ricky Vaughn convicted of election interference in 2016 presidential race.
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Mackey made Pro-Trump/anti-Hillary memes and this is the one he was charged for; He faces a maximum of 10 years in jail.
Not sure when sentencing is or what will happen next.
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Note that the left did exactly the same thing but of course this is totally different and was just meant to be funny. Right?
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I have to remember that he did get sent a jury of NYC blue anons who literally spend all their time being like Brooklyn dad defiant.

They probably think that Nazi Republicans won't let queer kids get life saving medical care. These tend to be the people that see themselves smarter as the rest of the US despite being the type of useless urbanites who have zero life skills.

So, if we take a reading of Antifa propaganda, their implicit purpose is to destroy the power structure of the current government, such that there is opportunity for them to grow into communities, or become the new power structure.

They don't care if some violent sociopath that is accomplishing direct action, because it supports their political endstates and your organization has a self-destructing weapon.. Tactically, the endstates are being delivered and strategically, it looks like insurgency.

People should acquaint themselves with Low Intensity Conflict.

Cuz' you are in one.
Antifa as a political threat will get worse and more dangerous. As long as they have a near endless supply of bitter angry resentful addicts they can tell to be their attack dogs for the revolution they will have people mobilized.
If you take your average 20 something they probably think capitalism is evil, queerness should be expressed, religion is bullshit, and having set in stone morals and values are Dumb. Naturally they're going to be way more sympathetic to the angry queer person punching a cop because they are freshly out of college and their professor told them all cops are bastards.

The only way people realize that Antifa aren't the good guys is because they get unfairly targeted by them or they're already awake. This is why pozzed Oregon shitlibs will say White surpremacists made downtown Oregon dangerous and ignore all the POC violent actors involved.
 
"Antifa as a political threat will get worse and more dangerous. As long as they have a near endless supply of bitter angry resentful addicts"

Antifa has a number of bitter, angry, military aged males (and females) that are led and directed by a legally savvy group of militant cadre: the PhD's, community activists, various non-profits, who do the organizing and strategic marketing (like the SPLC), and fund the various smaller, community based, non-profits that in turn, provide money for various affinity groups.

Yes, political violence will get worse because Antifa is an insurgency ("revolutionary") group that seeks political, social and cultural endstates that conflict with other people and other demographics ideas of things. Unfortunately for the later, no one is really challenging Antifa to a militarily useful degree. Whatever challenges there are, they lack depth, frequency and target specificity.

Anifa's OPSEC practices, organization and legal guidance make them a difficult target for a democracies like the USA and the USDOJ is likely not going to be much good here. Why would they target Antifa when careerist minded USAO prosecutors can go after neo-nazis for less effort and similar career effect?

I maintain that, unless the DOJ can do meaningful harm to Antifa's organizing, then it will take street level operations to control that. The centrist right is uninterested. The far-right cannot organize very well at depth, let alone conduct sophisticated network deconstruction operations.

So, yeah, political violence will escalate because there are no effective controls on Antifa.
 
Antifa has a number of bitter, angry, military aged males (and females) that are led and directed by a legally savvy group of militant cadre: the PhD's, community activists, various non-profits, who do the organizing and strategic marketing (like the SPLC), and fund the various smaller, community based, non-profits that in turn, provide money for various affinity groups.

Yes, political violence will get worse because Antifa is an insurgency ("revolutionary") group that seeks political, social and cultural endstates that conflict with other people and other demographics ideas of things. Unfortunately for the later, no one is really challenging Antifa to a militarily useful degree. Whatever challenges there are, they lack depth, frequency and target specificity.

Anifa's OPSEC practices, organization and legal guidance make them a difficult target for a democracies like the USA and the USDOJ is likely not going to be much good here. Why would they target Antifa when careerist minded USAO prosecutors can go after neo-nazis for less effort and similar career effect?

I maintain that, unless the DOJ can do meaningful harm to Antifa's organizing, then it will take street level operations to control that. The centrist right is uninterested. The far-right cannot organize very well at depth, let alone conduct sophisticated network deconstruction operations.

So, yeah, political violence will escalate because there are no effective controls on Antifa.
The problem is you're going to see more angry militant violence, cancelling, and people being pushed to the extremes by groups like Antifa.

This guy Gypsy crusader was a normie tier republican who documented a proud boys event and got doxxed and harassed by professional antifa types in Manhattan who basically ran him and his family out of new York.


The guy went from boomer tier GOP opinions to Fuck Niggers, kikes, race war now, and all of that stuff because of the shit antifa pulled. Like groups like this create Nazis and if they have Nazis they can convince lefty their I just want to be queer normies to at the very least look the other way when they brain some old lady. At worst they get another foot soldier who is dumb enough to throw a Molotov at a cop car.

The biggest problem is the moderates in this country are being willfully silent on groups like antifa because they have been brow beaten by the trump is a Nazi narrative. We shouldn't censor the dead, we should show the gore and their violence to the masses and disgust should grow instead.
 
"The problem is you're going to see more angry militant violence, cancelling, and people being pushed to the extremes by groups like Antifa."

Why is this a problem? Antifa is a violent, Leftist organization that wants to control what you say, how you live and how your children are raised. I think pushing people to extremes is a good thing and the resulting political violence will shape a new America. In a sense, but conservatives are largely to blame. They conserved nothing and are only tools of the upper class at the GOP. Fuck 'em.

"The biggest problem is the moderates in this country"

Yes, they lack the perception, consciousness and experience to understand the developing domestic conflict. They want to be left alone to grill or some other consumer pursuit. Like the conservatives, they abandoned the principle of struggle. Part of the problem.

We are at a great time in history to create something new.
 
If true civil violence were to erupt, right wing whites would unify - they'd have no choice - that is almost certain. Nazis, conservatives, libertarians and even "classic liberals". Ex-military and serviceman types would lead them as a paramilitary organised force.

The white left would unite too although they'd be an estrogen-feuled joke. However, they would likely form alliances with the Arabs, who would organise themselves in a similar fashion to the right wing, and the blacks, who would be a riot of disorganisation. These ties might not last long though as both the Arabs and the blacks hate them and would hate them more when they realise how utterly useless they are.

I could see a decent percentage of Latinos wanting to join the whites but most of them would probably join the leftists or maybe just stick together and try to finally take their share of America. The Asians would go home.

It really all depends on who would emerge in control of the military though. If it were a bluehair, they'd presumably just drone bomb America into a pan pedo paradise. It also depends on whether China or Russia fancied getting involved. Who would they decide to back? A degenerate dysfunctional America might suit them. Then again, they might just let the whites do a deal with the devil. We'll back you if we can own you. One party, two systems. White ethnostate but your flag is Chinese.

Whatever happens, it's something to look forward to.
 
Anifa's OPSEC practices, organization and legal guidance make them a difficult target for a democracies like the USA

What? No, Antifa is essentially directed by the establishment. If they can lock up Jan 6th people for walking around the Capitol indefinitely, then they can easily dismantle Antifa. But as we've seen some members are ex-military and in some cases children of the Elite and even Democrats politicians themselves. So they are basically the Establishment "Rent-an-Insurgency"
 
"What? No, Antifa is essentially directed by the establishment. If they can lock up Jan 6th people for walking around the Capitol indefinitely"

I don't want to start a flame war, but this is cope and bad interpretation, which is typical. Jan6 got locked up because they were dumb: unprepared for that kind of activity, shitty OPSEC with a lot of political opponents to use them as a chew toy. They had no organization to help them out.

The Right, looks successful performance factors like organization and OPSEC and says 'conspiracy,' other people look at that and say, 'this provides additional proof that decentralized organization with good OPSEC is a winning combination.'

Observation and analytic thinking enrages and confuses the American Right.

Antifa receives some support form the establishment because it is vogue to be a revolutionary fighting for 'human rights.' and the anti-fascism makes good optics, hence AOC. The Establishment is still insulated from Antifa so it's less of a threat to them vs. the middle class, which is where all of Antifa damage happens.

Why else would the Establishment support an insurgency? It's literally the end of that gravy train for them. Like the Right, they apply their own shallow takes and think the situation is controllable or will go back to normal.

No dude. It's an insurgency. They're still in the buildup phase.
 
"What? No, Antifa is essentially directed by the establishment. If they can lock up Jan 6th people for walking around the Capitol indefinitely"

I don't want to start a flame war, but this is cope and bad interpretation, which is typical. Jan6 got locked up because they were dumb: unprepared for that kind of activity, shitty OPSEC with a lot of political opponents to use them as a chew toy. They had no organization to help them out.

The Right, looks successful performance factors like organization and OPSEC and says 'conspiracy,' other people look at that and say, 'this provides additional proof that decentralized organization with good OPSEC is a winning combination.'
Depends when you're dealing with the boomer right wing they think, you must do everything public and dox yourself and be brave and stupid.
Observation and analytic thinking enrages and confuses the American Right.
The problem with the American right is they get easily distracted by religious debates that flaunt their christian egos.
Antifa receives some support form the establishment because it is vogue to be a revolutionary fighting for 'human rights.' and the anti-fascism makes good optics, hence AOC. The Establishment is still insulated from Antifa so it's less of a threat to them vs. the middle class, which is where all of Antifa damage happens.

Why else would the Establishment support an insurgency? It's literally the end of that gravy train for them. Like the Right, they apply their own shallow takes and think the situation is controllable or will go back to normal.

No dude. It's an insurgency. They're still in the buildup phase.
Unfortunately we're not even in the violent stages yet, we haven't seen the car bombs, truck bombs, and mass shootings on scale yet.

Give it a couple years, with Trump in 2024, let's say we have a few more culture war casualties that can be laid at the behest of troons/antifa types and you might see Trump win in 2024.

But if that happens the resistance you saw to him in 2017-2021 will be nothing in comparison to the next four years.

Then again I'm thinking there are elements pushing for civil conflict.
 
The US antifa has European Antifa in it’s leadership. Going further BLM and Antifa have a lot of the former Weather Underground people within it. The heart of the organization is made up of insanely privileged people who either have institutional support or are protected due to their status.

US Antifa is a three tier organization: Organizers, Soldier-Collaboraters, and Useful dysgenic idiots. It’s like a cult or a mafia.
The drug addicts and ‘protestors’ are usually just people who want to be destructive. Some of them are paid and some are just pushed into starting a fight because it can help create an optics nightmare for their opposition. Joseph Rosenbaum was basically one of these. He’s not really a member, but they’ll give him support because it serves their purpose.

The Soldier-Collaborators typically are the ‘medics’, ‘press’, and lead protestors. They do optics work and lead the gay chants in the day and push the violent retards to be violent retards off camera.

The organizers are a lot of professors, media people, and some military queers. There’s a lot of institutional support from Prosecutors and Mayors helping these people.
 
The organizers are a lot of professors, media people, and some military queers. There’s a lot of institutional support from Prosecutors and Mayors helping these people.
Don't forget the lawyers and legal support like the NLG and legal observers. Pretty much any organization that specializes in street hassles is going to need legal.
 
Don't forget the lawyers and legal support like the NLG and legal observers. Pretty much any organization that specializes in street hassles is going to need legal.
The National Lawyers Guild is effectively the communist Bar Association started by communists during the 30’s?

I have a few lawyers in my family who were a little involved with Civil Rights stuff and they have nothing, but hate for the NLG or whichever one helped rioters back then. My perception of the Civil Rights movement is that there was merit, but a lot of it was literally communists stoking racial tensions.

They’re pretty involved with Antifa and you have cases where Antifa lawyers have been throwing Molotovs and weren’t disbarred for it.
 
It really all depends on who would emerge in control of the military though. If it were a bluehair, they'd presumably just drone bomb America into a pan pedo paradise.
Military doesn't exist in a situation you just described. Military is mostly right wing and as attempts by TPTB to shift the military left, has only resulted in a weak, understaffed military. No one outside of the antifa types is gonna support drone striking Americans on American soil. People are gonna leave, their either gonna take their equipment and gear with them or sabotage that which they can't. I'd sooner put my money on national guard units playing a more important role than the federal military.
 
US Antifa is a three tier organization: Organizers, Soldier-Collaboraters, and Useful dysgenic idiots. It’s like a cult or a mafia.
No. This is not accurate at all. Antifa, whether US or European eschews any type of hierarchal organization, which is what a tiered system explicitly is. Antifa prefers a network centric organizational model.
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Their network centric model uses, among other things, affinity groups to attract people and direct their action to political endstates. There's no hierarchy. Communication is largely via Internet and chiefly social media (Twitter for instance), which we saw during the BLM riots, which were Antifa inspired and directed. There is a lot more to fluid, network centric organizations, but I'm not writing a thesis. Such networks are autonomous and decentralized around an idea (human rights, anti-fascism, etc.). COL. Ulius L. Amoss wrote of such a thing in the 1960's. Inform Newsletter, 17APR1962.


This is the way of organizing. Hierarchal structures have a place, but not in political organizing and not in the future where the Right has to organize similarly for self-defense.
 
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Their network centric model uses, among other things, affinity groups to attract people and direct their action to political endstates. There's no hierarchy. Communication is largely via Internet and chiefly social media (Twitter for instance), which we saw during the BLM riots, which were Antifa inspired and directed. There is a lot more to fluid, network centric organizations, but I'm not writing a thesis. Such networks are autonomous and decentralized around an idea (human rights, anti-fascism, etc.). COL. Ulius L. Amoss wrote of such a thing in the 1960's. Inform Newsletter, 17APR1962.


This is the way of organizing. Hierarchal structures have a place, but not in political organizing and not in the future where the Right has to organize similarly for self-defense.
They have a hierarchy. The cells have very few actual soldiers and mostly whip up violent retards. I’m not arguing with you, the hierarchy only involves the cell leaders.

It’s like a mafia in that they typically operate independently, but show up en mass when needed. They aren’t the IRA where they have splinter groups that hate each other, they have a few people managing retards using cult tactics to keep them in line.
 
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