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Guess that's as close as he can get to saying "Ukraine will never join NATO" without actually saying it.
Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion
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Sister Miriam Godwinson
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This here is exactly why Putin will keep this shitshow going until there is no Ukraine left to join. This smarmy kuck has just put a cork into any potential peace at the cost of territorial concessions, it's all or nothing now.
Unless Putin decides Dnieper makes an acceptable natural border with NATO, that is.
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I used to be ‘pro Ukie’ or at least more biased towards them because I like underdogs. But seeing all this unfold changed my position fairly easily.
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Surprised Russia haven't started popping off some Ukr leadership here and there in retaliation for the terrorist attacks in Russia. I'm pretty sure Zelensky would be more likely to ff if he was trembling in a bunker for a couple of months instead of engaging in his gibs world tour. Self-preservation is one hell of a motivator.
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So all Russia has to do is never accept any peace talks and sling a few bombs every once a while. It's bizarre how NATO is giving Putin what he wants and I assume they don't even realize it. Or maybe they do and the point is just to not look bad.
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Russia needs to keep a continually politically airtight military action going. If Zelensky and the CIA glowies got taken out by a straight missile strike, then it would give NATO political capital to make an overt move.
The Western media will spin any Russian fuckup in the worst possible way.
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prefix to this post: I am as pro-Z as anybody else in this thread.
The RU MOD (and Putin) are ridiculously conflict-adverse; they are notorious for pissing X group off, then letting X group bomb their citizens with no reprisal and giving into every one of their demands. Chechens got their reputation for terrorism not because they were islamic extremists, but why? Because every time they'd take hostages, the Russian government would cave instantly and give them everything they asked for + more. Even bombings (outside of the '99 apartments) were almost always an effective means for the Chechens to get the Kremlin to do their bidding.
In 2004, Chechen terrorists became significantly more aggressive and ramped up terrorist attacks in Russia on a massive scale: They bombed military barracks, numerous military parades on Victory Day (one of which killed the President of Chechnya), many big crowds of civilians where they knew ethnic Russians would be, bombed the Moscow Metro twice (Feb, Aug), committed numerous mass shootings of Russian civilians, and even put 2 female suicide bombers on separate planes leaving from Moscow and blew both of them out of the sky at the same time.
The RU MOD did nothing in response, even though they started the Second Chechen War themselves. It was only finally after Beslan did the MOD and Kremlin face a real backlash and internal political threat and THAT was what finally motivated the bureaucrats to take action.
I'm actually happy to see UA doing assassinations in big Russian cities, as it's the one thing that might change how the RU MOD as been operating. Downright stupid of the Ukrainians to poke the bear like that. Strelkov, for all his craziness, said that even if Ukrainian troops take all of the Donbas, Russia will not respond or change their strategy. And he's right, maybe even about Crimea as well frankly. The one thing that might change this war is if Putin himself is injured or killed in an assassination attempt by the SBU. I cannot imagine anything else would motivate them.
Aleksandr Lapin, Moscow bureaucrat, was the biggest fuckup Russian general in 2022; he was the one behind Russia losing and then withdrawing from Lyman and the surrounding towns for no good reason, amid numerous constant other failures while he was the commander of the Central Military District. He was finally dismissed when everyone under him just flatly refused to follow his orders and the MOD had no other choice.
So, what did he get as punishment from the Kremlin for setting the SMO back months?
He got promoted to being the leader of the entire goddamn Army.
Every military and government has its problems with bureaucracy; the US is no better with it. Now, Russia is (very slowly) gaining territory in recent times within the meatgrinder, and it will, barring extraordinary circumstances, lead to victory in the end. However, don't expect any big change in strategy by the RU MOD regardless of any Ukrainian successes in the future. Call me a Uke shill all you want, but the MOD has failed at literally every offensive it's tried in the past 9 months; all expansions in territory have come exclusively thanks to the brilliant and tireless work of Wagner and the DPR & LPR forces.
The Ukrainians committing assassinations in Russia is the downright stupidest thing they could ever do. Beating Russia on the battlefield won't elicit a Russian response; mass-casualty terrorism within Russia targeting civilians or military personnel won't elicit a Russian response. But Putin surviving a car bombing, or being killed and replaced by Big Dick Medvedev? That would.
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NATO said it's my turn on the Xbox.Terrible news, Russia bros! The Fellowship is taking the ring to Mordor!
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Welp this feels mildly threatening. If Z-man has any fucking braincells, he should be able to see the writing on the wall and realize that he's getting fucked pretty badly if he sucks NATO nuts.
This carrot dangling in front of his stupid face should make him very scared.
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Ukraine is backed by 8 of the top 10 military powers in the world. Almost every western corporation and media organization supports them. They receive more foreign aid every month than most countries can generate in a year. Every international governing body supports them. Every propaganda network in the west uncritically parrots all of their propaganda.
How is Ukraine the underdog?
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Where do you think the shells and logistics come from? I understand your frustration but to divorce RF MoD from battlefield success is missing some of the picture.
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Mykhailo Podolyak (adviser to the head of the President's Office) has just announced that Ukraine will have liberated Crimea in 6 months
"In six months, Ukraine will enter Crimea"
By October Zelenski will be visiting Crimea while Putler's forces will be destroyed by the valiant ukranian forces
"In six months, Ukraine will enter Crimea"
By October Zelenski will be visiting Crimea while Putler's forces will be destroyed by the valiant ukranian forces
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Gondolindrim
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This. NATO has so many fucking high ranking personnel on the ground that they will happily declare war if Russia actually tries to seal the deal and starts shelling Kiev. No one will even question why a fucking general or politician was just hanging around because they'll be so stoked that we're coming to "save the day".
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Because Russia doesnt need some propaganda victory right now.
their last retaliation was aimed at a bunker full of Nato advicers and they collapsed the god damn bunker with hundreds of victims.
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If I was Vladimir Putin, this should give me free reign in killing western journos and propagandists. If there is any push back then I can forever cite this tweet by the globalists Bob Rae and Dominic Cardy as an example of western morality when it comes to respecting the life of press.
There's Putin's problem!
He needs the Ministry of Offense, not the Ministry of Denfence to handle this SMO. Headed by General Armageddon himself!
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So basically just "two more weeks".
St.Davis
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Venting Ukrainian politicians would be a ridiculously bad move. By doing so Putin would;
- Create a Martyr/Martyrs that can be rallied around for propaganda purposes, which is something that The Ukraine direly need at the moment due to western popular support rapidly evaporating. (Not to be confused with governmental support)
- Normalise the concept of assasinating major politicians (of countries people care about. Arabs dont count), which could provide an excuse for the west to attempt it themselves, or provide a solid Casus Belli for NATO to put boots on the ground/declare an actual hot war on Russia. (I don't think they would do this right now though)
- Provide 0 tangible benefit for Russia as Zelensky et al. are not actually calling the shots in The Ukraine beyond the superficial. NATO/The west will simply install some other useful idiot who will act in precisely the same fashion.
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All this means is Finland will likely be peppered with tactical nukes, if there is conflict with NATO.