Female-to-male artist shoots up Presbyterian elementary school killing 6. - Female Troon (FTM) Shoots Up Christian School in Tennessee

wile i'm willing to be disappointed if is what you claim it would be. I think the time its taking for them to shit it out is telling that there's something in it that spooks the feds. wither it names some feds as accomplices or its some wacky troon Kamikaze attack. either way it's got something making the feds sweat.
The last funeral for her victims was held yesterday. I’d hope they would release the stuff next week. From how they are referring to it it’s not like one final manifesto, it’s a suicide note(s), journals, notebooks, etc…

Then again it took fucking years for them to release stuff they had on Adam Lanza. Only a few years ago was some of what LE had was finally released. Private researchers turned up more via tracking down his online aliases and contacts.
 
I suspect that the troonifesto implicates someone besides the shooter, and that releasing it immediately might jeopardize the investigation.
Yeah honestly I agree- I think the manifesto is going to include a lot of specific incidents in her life that name a lot of people. Finding out a mass shooter blamed you for that one time in 6th grade you didnt wave back to her in the cafeteria line in school would probably be psychologically damaging...if I were named in a percieved snub from 20 years ago on why a person shot kids I'd be really fucked up even though I know that is not my fault logically.... I suspect a lot of names are dropped. Like the twin of the car crash girl is upset about people equating her sister's death to motive... I totally get why that would be upsetting even if kind of illogical. I also think it is possible that they are investigating possible other crimes....maybe she dropped a username online that she confided in and the feds want to investigate any potential grooming or coersion...especially if she was clinically retarded. I think it is less about damaging the trans movement and more about ongoing investigations and psychological protection so soon after the killings for those who may be named. But who knows. Very interested to know.
 
Then again it took fucking years for them to release stuff they had on Adam Lanza. Only a few years ago was some of what LE had was finally released. Private researchers turned up more via tracking down his online aliases and contacts.
Adam Lanza didn't have a manifesto. Most of that release was just homework he'd done in elementary school.
 
Hate crimes are a bunch of unconstitutional horse shit that allows the government to punish the same crime in different ways depending on their opinion of the defendant. There's an extreme disparity in the rate of hate crimes because of how they are charged. I always thought the concept of alternative punishments due to motive were stupid, but I really abandoned them when those 4 young hoodlums kidnapped a retarded white guy in New York.
I agree, to a degree. If we're going to tack on punishment for wrongthink motives, then that extra punishment shouldn't be waived for a perpetrator of an "oppressed class". In addition, hinging the weight of the punishment on the perpetrator's motives causes everyone to double and triple check everything done by everyone for the slightest whiff of bigotry, even when there is probably none. This causes minorities to be particularly jumpy and distrusting of all classes that are percieved to be "oppressors" and cry wolf.

On the other hand, motives matter. If I was negligently cleaning my loaded gun and it went off through my window, killing a man walking down the street, it'd be involuntary manslaughter. If I caught a man ducking out of my bedroom after fucking my wife and strolling nonchalantly down the street, then shot him, it'd be second degree murder. If this supposed man was instead shot while trying to pry open my window, it'd be self defense. In all cases, a hypothetical man is hypothetically dead from my hypothetical actions, but how harshly I am judged for it depends on the reasons for my actions.
 
On the other hand, motives matter. If I was negligently cleaning my loaded gun and it went off through my window, killing a man walking down the street, it'd be involuntary manslaughter. If I caught a man ducking out of my bedroom after fucking my wife and strolling nonchalantly down the street, then shot him, it'd be second degree murder. If this supposed man was instead shot while trying to pry open my window, it'd be self defense. In all cases, a hypothetical man is hypothetically dead from my hypothetical actions, but how harshly I am judged for it depends on the reasons for my actions.

If I was negligently cleaning my loaded gun and it went off through my window, killing a man walking down the street, it'd be involuntary manslaughter.
Maybe he's black, there are no witnesses the prosecutor finds out you have anti BLM posts on Facebook. Maybe they think it's something else.
If I caught a man ducking out of my bedroom after fucking my wife and strolling nonchalantly down the street, then shot him, it'd be second degree murder.
Maybe he's black, said wife tells the police you yelled nigger before you shot. Maybe the charge is escalated.
If this supposed man was instead shot while trying to pry open my window, it'd be self defense.
Depends on what the authorities decide happened.
In all cases, a hypothetical man is hypothetically dead from my hypothetical actions, but how harshly I am judged for it depends on the reasons for my actions.
The harshness of your judgement being based on the reasons for your actions is just theoretical in this day and age in America. It all depends on the individual Judge, prosecutor, jury members and the public outcry from the mob.
How did Derek Chauvin get charged with anything other than Manslaughter?
 
I agree, to a degree. If we're going to tack on punishment for wrongthink motives, then that extra punishment shouldn't be waived for a perpetrator of an "oppressed class". In addition, hinging the weight of the punishment on the perpetrator's motives causes everyone to double and triple check everything done by everyone for the slightest whiff of bigotry, even when there is probably none. This causes minorities to be particularly jumpy and distrusting of all classes that are percieved to be "oppressors" and cry wolf.

On the other hand, motives matter. If I was negligently cleaning my loaded gun and it went off through my window, killing a man walking down the street, it'd be involuntary manslaughter. If I caught a man ducking out of my bedroom after fucking my wife and strolling nonchalantly down the street, then shot him, it'd be second degree murder. If this supposed man was instead shot while trying to pry open my window, it'd be self defense. In all cases, a hypothetical man is hypothetically dead from my hypothetical actions, but how harshly I am judged for it depends on the reasons for my actions.
With killing a person, you have different crimes that deal with intent. Murder, manslaughter, neglect, etc. Intent and motive aren't the same thing. Intent is required for someone to be guilty of a crime where motive is totally irrelevant. The example I used was two seperate instances of the same crime being charged differently, not different crimes having different punishments.

Party A hates party B and starts planning on how to kill them. Party A kills party B and is undoubtedly guilty of 1st degree murder. What would make it a hate crime is the demographics of party A and party B, and we make the argument that the same crime of 1st degree murder is more or less egregious based on superficial, subjective qualities. Imagine they invented Purple Crimes. Theft is already a crime with a specified range of punishments but if someone steals something purple, they get an additional 2 years in jail because the powers that be think it's more offensive to society without any logical legal reasoning. It creates a legal system where those subjected to it are no longer equally protected under the same laws. It's counter intuitive to the foundational principles of western justice being blind.
 
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. – The 18th Judicial District Attorney’s Office has charged a former student of District 20, 19-year-old William Whitworth, with attempted murder for allegedly planning attacks on three Colorado Springs schools. Whitworth identifies as female and goes by “Lily,” officials said.

The arrest affidavit details that the Elbert County Sheriff’s Office was alerted to threats made by Whitworth of a school shooting. During initial contact, the suspect appeared to be under the influence and confirmed they had planned an attack.

Whitworth identified Timberview Middle School as a “main target” and other churches.

Came here to post this but got beat to the punch. Alright people. I will fully admit I was wrong in being skeptical that Audrey Hale might inspire copycats.
 
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Cock teased with another NO manifesto but listed whats in it!
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COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (KRDO) – A former Colorado Springs student faces an attempted murder charge after reportedly making threats against various schools in one of the city's largest school districts.

According to the 18th Judicial District Attorney’s Office, 19-year-old William Whitworth - who identifies as “Lilly”- was charged after an investigation into "threats involving schools in Colorado Springs Academy District 20."

Whitworth was arrested by the Elbert County Sheriff's Office and formally charged with the following offenses:

Criminal attempt to commit murder in the first degree (two counts)
Criminal mischief
Menacing
Interference with staff, faculty, or students of educational institutions
A spokesperson for District 20 told 13 Investigates the suspect attended school in the district between 2014 and 2016, during which they attended both in-person and the district’s Homeschool Academy.

According to an arrest affidavit obtained by 13 Investigates, deputies with the ECSO were dispatched to a disturbance in incorporated Elbert County on March 31, 2023, at 7:18 p.m.
Dispatch noted:

Sister just made a violent approach to Reporting Party (RP)
Sister threatened to shoot up a school
Sister has ever anger issues
Sister made comments day before yesterday ref school shooting
At the scene, deputies spoke with someone at the door who said that someone inside was "very upset and punched holes inside the walls." That person, however, did not immediately let deputies inside.

Once inside, deputies noted in the affidavit two holes that appeared to be punch marks in the wall. The door to a bedroom was off its hinges and lying beside the opening. Inside a bedroom, deputies found RP's sister on a bed. The sister identified herself as Lilly, but further investigation determined her birth name is William Whitworth.

The affidavit refers to Whitworth as Lilly and uses she/her pronouns.

While speaking with Whitworth, deputies noted she "appeared to be very drowsy and could not stay awake." She would answer questions with her eyes closed.

When asked if she was going to shoot up a school, the affidavit states Whitworth "visibly shook her head and down indicating yes." When asked why she'd do that, Whitworth stated, "Why does anyone do it."

According to the affidavit, Whitworth said the last school she attended was Timberview Middle School in District 20. When asked if that was the school she was going to "shoot up," Whitworth again nodded yes. When asked why that school, Whitworth stated, "No specific reason."

During the initial interaction with Whitworth, deputies noted she made suicidal statements. According to the affidavit, Whitworth also said she was "a little drunk" and swayed back and forth while walking down the hallway out of the bedroom.

While waiting for the fire department, Whitworth was asked how much she had been planning the school shooting. She stated she was "about a third of the way from doing it," verifying again that Timberview Middle School was one of the "main targets" currently and other targets were churches.

Whitworth stated she'd been planning it for a month or two, stated the layout of the school, active firearm planning, and started a manifesto.

According to the affidavit, investigators found the manifesto, a dry-erase board with floor plans, and a list of names in a notebook.

Whitworth said the manifesto was four pages long and had "schizophrenic rants" on them. However, the affidavit states when deputies asked if she was schizophrenic, she replied "I hope not."

According to the affidavit, Whitworth was asked how much she knew about school shootings, and she stated, "Too much." When asked what she meant by that, Whitworth stated "There's a page in my manifesto and there's a bunch of mass killers."

On the dry-erase board, investigators noted it looked like a labeled floor plan of a school, with labels identifying the office, bathrooms, classrooms, and the different levels.

In two different notebooks, deputies found more floor plans, a drawing of a clock to use a detonation device stating, "Remove clock intemials and drive a screw into the desired detonation time on the face of the clock, and "Is this what they meant when they said making a mockery of the massacre?"

Whitmore stated she watched a video on YouTube on "how to do it" regarding the picture of a detonator.

Deputies obtained a search warrant of the home and found "The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels and more books with notes. Written inside one book had written inside, "Ways I want to die," with a list stating murder, burning alive, freezing, and drowning.

Another book had the following statements found inside, according to the arrest affidavit:

In short, a brief of the manifestos contents detailed:

A list of firearms and how to 3D print them
Detailed lists of numerous named individuals to be killed and their indented casualty versus injury rate.
Information detailing the creation of improvised explosive devices
The Finalization of locations being Timberview Middle School, Prairie Hills Elementary, and Pine Creek High School
According to the affidavit, one of the notebooks also had a list of various mass shooters, serial killers, politicians, and entertainers with commentary on each.

Below is how the names were listed in the affidavit:

Eric and Dylan: Losers
Adam Lanza: To smart
Isreal Keyes: Degenerate
Lauren Southern: Pathetic
Vaush: Terrorist
Donald J. Trump: Con-mam
Bad cops: Useless garbage
Stockholm, Name: Liam K.
Whitworth has a preliminary hearing scheduled for May 5, 2023. The bond is currently set at $75,000.
 
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You know, there's one school shooter that no one ever talks about anymore.

Kip Kinkle. He did a shooting in 1998.

I think he isn't mentioned because of how he was stopped.
I mention him, and remember to this day the Frontline documentary about him.


I do not want to diminish what he did, but his parents were not exactly ideal. Pretty fucked up really. The scene in which a classmate describes how comical it was that his dad coaxed the high school coach to put the undersized kip in at linebacker was telling.
 
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