Mega Rad Gun Thread

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

I say if you're going to be working on AR lowers even semi regularly get a vice block.
Block

Pretty sure there are sets that include the upper blocks as well. Not sure what issue people are having with standard AR trigger installs. Just use a roll pin punch to locate/hold the trigger in place and chase it out with the trigger pin. Repeat for the hammer pin. The same method (along with a good set of roll pin starter punches) makes roll pins a snap too.

 

[TheGreatDodongus]

Pretty sure there are sets that include the upper blocks as well. Not sure what issue people are having with standard AR trigger installs. Just use a roll pin punch to locate/hold the trigger in place and chase it out with the trigger pin. Repeat for the hammer pin. The same method (along with a good set of roll pin starter punches) makes roll pins a snap too.

If any of you are having trouble with shit like this, then I rescind my previous statement about the ease of working on Beretta 92s. DO NOT ATTEMPT IT. The sear spring alone will give you an aneurysm.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Everyone, it's yet another gun recommendation ask.

This time it's the AR-10 platform. All I know at this time is that there are 2-3 broad "patterns" to choose from and they aren't exactly compatible with each other.

Afaik the PSA AR-10 Gen 3 is one "pattern" and something like the Aero M5 is another "pattern". I know the SIG 716i is a DI AR-10 with a few proprietary SIG parts.

Beyond that, I'm at a loss. To be honest I'd be OK with a PSA AR-10 for general semi auto .308 work all day but I'm wondering if any other maker has something "better" for similar or slightly more money.

Thoughts, suggestions, or should I just go get a new built FN FAL with a Picatinney rail on top and some M-lok furniture? Thanks

 

[DocAwe]

Everyone, it's yet another gun recommendation ask.

This time it's the AR-10 platform. All I know at this time is that there are 2-3 broad "patterns" to choose from and they aren't exactly compatible with each other.

Afaik the PSA AR-10 Gen 3 is one "pattern" and something like the Aero M5 is another "pattern". I know the SIG 716i is a DI AR-10 with a few proprietary SIG parts.

Beyond that, I'm at a loss. To be honest I'd be OK with a PSA AR-10 for general semi auto .308 work all day but I'm wondering if any other maker has something "better" for similar or slightly more money.

Thoughts, suggestions, or should I just go get a new built FN FAL with a Picatinney rail on top and some M-lok furniture? Thanks

I might have a PSA AR10.
18" stainless. It's heavy.
Not shot it much but it's always worked.

 

[DocAwe]

Pretty sure there are sets that include the upper blocks as well. Not sure what issue people are having with standard AR trigger installs. Just use a roll pin punch to locate/hold the trigger in place and chase it out with the trigger pin. Repeat for the hammer pin. The same method (along with a good set of roll pin starter punches) makes roll pins a snap too.

I have both a clamshell upper block and a Magpul bevblock.
IMO skip the clamshell and get the bevblock.

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

Everyone, it's yet another gun recommendation ask.

This time it's the AR-10 platform. All I know at this time is that there are 2-3 broad "patterns" to choose from and they aren't exactly compatible with each other.

Afaik the PSA AR-10 Gen 3 is one "pattern" and something like the Aero M5 is another "pattern". I know the SIG 716i is a DI AR-10 with a few proprietary SIG parts.

Beyond that, I'm at a loss. To be honest I'd be OK with a PSA AR-10 for general semi auto .308 work all day but I'm wondering if any other maker has something "better" for similar or slightly more money.

Thoughts, suggestions, or should I just go get a new built FN FAL with a Picatinney rail on top and some M-lok furniture? Thanks

The two AR-10/308 patterns I'm aware of are the DPMS LR-308 and Armalite AR-10 patterns. The former is more common these days, and is the one used by PSA and Aero Precision, among others. If you're building, make sure the parts all conform to one pattern or the other.

I built an Aero M5-based one last year and aside from a Ballistic Advantage barrel with a hilariously oversized gas port (rectified with a Superlative adjustable gas block), it's been great though as @DocAwe notes, they're heavy chonkers.

 

[StillSpergingOnTheNet]

Here's another something that tickles my autism just right.... .22 CHeetah
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It's .308 necked down (up?) to .223/5.56, and allegedly pushes 4300 fps. That kind of velocity is just nutty, and I love it. Popping prairie dogs would be like zapping them with a laser.

So 220 Swift for the modern age then.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Let's talk Dumpster Defenders. Anyone tried running a shotgun this way, and if yes, how did it go? Some parts of that technique make sense, like pushing forward on the forend while pulling back on the grip to absorb some of the recoil, but other parts seem counterintuitive, like keeping that wrist angle while firing.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Don't get me started on fucking Matebas.

I really want a 2006M with all the different barrels, but they are a bit 5k-10k, and mostly in the hopes of producing CAD models to make reproductions. Those things are super fucking cool.

I'd only discourage you from this if you have small hands, otherwise it's my favorite pistol I've ever shot (once I did the hammer spring change), assuming you're okay with a gun that weighs a shitload.

Edit: it's also frankly, beautifully engineered. So many things just fit together and retain each other perfectly without needing screws or roll-pins. Reminds me of the Benelli shotguns in a lot of ways.

The M9 is a great gun, and while they are a little pricey for a new model they are extremely good quality and will last a lifetime if you take care of them. Hell, even if you don't they probably will last, my 20+ year old service issued one was beat to shit but still worked great. They are significantly heavier than most people realize since they are full size with a metal frame, but while I appreciate the advantages of my polymer frame handguns there is something satisfying about the metal on metal sounds that come out of it when reloading, racking the slide, and engaging the safety.

The weight and size of the pistol is ok with me honestly, it's a beautiful gun that isn't just another browning internally. If I have to choose a 9mm to slap to my hip, it's a Beretta, which with its weight, doubles as a melee weapon.

 

[HodgePodgeRogerDodger]

Friend might know someone selling pistols for a little cheaper because they bought a surplus. Mostly M1911’s, Barettas, and old police revolvers.

I typically just want them to have them. Probably go to a range. I also kinda want a Makarov, but have no clue on how the price for quality goes on them.

 

[HarblMcDavid]

The two AR-10/308 patterns I'm aware of are the DPMS LR-308 and Armalite AR-10 patterns. The former is more common these days, and is the one used by PSA and Aero Precision, among others. If you're building, make sure the parts all conform to one pattern or the other.

I built an Aero M5-based one last year and aside from a Ballistic Advantage barrel with a hilariously oversized gas port (rectified with a Superlative adjustable gas block), it's been great though as @DocAwe notes, they're heavy chonkers.

To add to this, I had to look in to this and the general shape of things and almost everyone uses what is effectively "LR308 pattern", with I believe KAC and others having AR-10 like angled rather than curved interfaces between the rear of the upper and the lower, but otherwise being LR-308 alike in every other way, and not all the angled interfaces are interchangable, so my suggestion is not try not to mix uppers and lowers between manufacturers.

The AR-10 proper is something you own if you want an AR-10. Otherwise get an LR-308 alike if you want to do anything to it.

The other gotcha is making sure handguards are compatible as DPMS had a couple specs for rail height on the upper and they are "compatible" but you end up with wonkapus rail heights between them if you mix and match. I think there can also be a barrel nut thread pitch difference in some cases between the two, but I might be mixing that up with the DPMS revision 2 or whatever they called it which nobody adopted but technically is an LR-308 standard as well, that just isn't compatible with much.

Oh, and I did check the BCM "blem" uppers...as far as I can tell the blems are tiny almost imperceptible blems on the push pin nubs...which nobody will ever see. Pristine uppers other than that.

 

[DocAwe]

The two AR-10/308 patterns I'm aware of are the DPMS LR-308 and Armalite AR-10 patterns. The former is more common these days, and is the one used by PSA and Aero Precision, among others. If you're building, make sure the parts all conform to one pattern or the other.

I built an Aero M5-based one last year and aside from a Ballistic Advantage barrel with a hilariously oversized gas port (rectified with a Superlative adjustable gas block), it's been great though as @DocAwe notes, they're heavy chonkers.

To also add make sure it uses SR-25 type magazines whatever you get.
Those are the easiest/cheapest ones to find.
That shouldn't be hard to do tho as the majority of ar10 types these days use that pattern.
Some of the older ones used weird property mags.
Like older armalite (AR-10B) rifles used modified M14 mags and a few oddballs used G3 or FAL mags.
Most of those were made during the AWB of 94-04 due to no new civilian manufacture so folks were modding existing mags to get standard capacity.
Once the ban expired the SR-25 basically became the standard but some outliers still exist like the .308 rifle from HK (417) and pre 3d generation Noveske .308s.
Like said tho, if you're buying something made in the last 10 or so years it's a good chance it's SR-25 type.

 

[Particle Bored]

Everyone, it's yet another gun recommendation ask.

This time it's the AR-10 platform. All I know at this time is that there are 2-3 broad "patterns" to choose from and they aren't exactly compatible with each other.

Afaik the PSA AR-10 Gen 3 is one "pattern" and something like the Aero M5 is another "pattern". I know the SIG 716i is a DI AR-10 with a few proprietary SIG parts.

Beyond that, I'm at a loss. To be honest I'd be OK with a PSA AR-10 for general semi auto .308 work all day but I'm wondering if any other maker has something "better" for similar or slightly more money.

Thoughts, suggestions, or should I just go get a new built FN FAL with a Picatinney rail on top and some M-lok furniture? Thanks

Here is Club Sandwich's DPMS-pattern summary. For some reason I can't reply/quote it.

 

[DocAwe]

Friend might know someone selling pistols for a little cheaper because they bought a surplus. Mostly M1911’s, Barettas, and old police revolvers.

I typically just want them to have them. Probably go to a range. I also kinda want a Makarov, but have no clue on how the price for quality goes on them.

Makarov is cool and if the price is right go for it.
I'll be the first to tell you tho that the CZ82 is a better gun all around in that Walther style of pistol and should be seriously considered over the Mak.

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

I might have a PSA AR10.
18" stainless. It's heavy.
Not shot it much but it's always worked.

I'm seriously considering a PA-10 Gen 3 with a 20 inch barrel (PSA reserves the rifle length gas system for that barrel length, or else I'd get the 18 inch). Plus the OG AR-10 had a 20 inch barrel so it's not like it's a ultra unwieldy or bulky make-up.

The two AR-10/308 patterns I'm aware of are the DPMS LR-308 and Armalite AR-10 patterns. The former is more common these days, and is the one used by PSA and Aero Precision, among others. If you're building, make sure the parts all conform to one pattern or the other.

I built an Aero M5-based one last year and aside from a Ballistic Advantage barrel with a hilariously oversized gas port (rectified with a Superlative adjustable gas block), it's been great though as @DocAwe notes, they're heavy chonkers.

Excellent info, thanks

To also add make sure it uses SR-25 type magazines whatever you get.
Those are the easiest/cheapest ones to find.
That shouldn't be hard to do tho as the majority of ar10 types these days use that pattern.
Some of the older ones used weird property mags.
Like older armalite (AR-10B) rifles used modified M14 mags and a few oddballs used G3 or FAL mags.
Most of those were made during the AWB of 94-04 due to no new civilian manufacture so folks were modding existing mags to get standard capacity.
Once the ban expired the SR-25 basically became the standard but some outliers still exist like the .308 rifle from HK (417) and pre 3d generation Noveske .308s.
Like said tho, if you're buying something made in the last 10 or so years it's a good chance it's SR-25 type.

Great to know, SR-25 mags it'll be

Here is Club Sandwich's DPMS-pattern summary. For some reason I can't reply/quote it.

Ohh even more good info

Looks like I'd be served just fine by a PSA PA-10 with a 20 inch barrel. SIG 716i is nice but has a 16 inch barrel so ehhhh.

Money no object I'd probably go for some long stroke gas piston AR-10 but money is an object so a DI one is fine.

 

[TheRedRanger]

Well, my dad has decided he wants a new hunting rifle, which means he needs to make space in his cabinet. And rather than go to the trouble of finding a buyer for an expensive gun and going through the legal steps required to sell it, he's giving me his Accuracy International .308.
Won't be for a while yet, but I'm pretty stoked.

 

[Amateur Shoelace Tyer]

Does anyone have a Walther P99? The original configuration, the Smith & Wesson clone, or the AS configuration doesn't matter to me. I handled an AS model at a store recently and it was very comfortable but none of the ranges around me have one for rent so IDK how it shoots. I've been carrying a G26 for the last like 8 years and feel like getting a new gun. I like the looks of the P99 over the newer Walther pistols and they're getting ready to start selling an OD green model that looks nice. Any anecdotes from past and current owners would be appreciated.

 

[Blasterisk]

Well, my dad has decided he wants a new hunting rifle, which means he needs to make space in his cabinet. And rather than go to the trouble of finding a buyer for an expensive gun and going through the legal steps required to sell it, he's giving me his Accuracy International .308.
Won't be for a while yet, but I'm pretty stoked.

That sort of thing usually only happens at the beginning of a Counter Strike match, very nice.

 

[SuperConglomerateWhale]

Everyone, it's yet another gun recommendation ask.

This time it's the AR-10 platform. All I know at this time is that there are 2-3 broad "patterns" to choose from and they aren't exactly compatible with each other.

Afaik the PSA AR-10 Gen 3 is one "pattern" and something like the Aero M5 is another "pattern". I know the SIG 716i is a DI AR-10 with a few proprietary SIG parts.

Beyond that, I'm at a loss. To be honest I'd be OK with a PSA AR-10 for general semi auto .308 work all day but I'm wondering if any other maker has something "better" for similar or slightly more money.

Thoughts, suggestions, or should I just go get a new built FN FAL with a Picatinney rail on top and some M-lok furniture? Thanks

I just finished an Aero M5 myself and here's my parts list:

Aero M5 lower ($149.75 including tax&NICS)
Aero M5 upper ($138.07)
Aero .308 carbine buffer kit ($53.09)
Radian Raptor LT charging handle ($90.55)
Brownells .308 Nitride BCG ($149.99)
Ballistic Advantage 16" Government Profile Mid Length ($101.67)
Surefire Procomp Muzzle Break ($89)
Areo M5 LPK w/ FCG ($75.24)
Expo Arms Mid Length Gas Tube ($8.95)
Superlative Arms Bleed Off Adjustable Gas Block Clamp On ($89.99)
AimSports DPMS High 13.5" handguard ($54.59)
Trijicon Credo 2.5-10x56mm ($519.99)
Burris AR-PEPR 30mm mount ($88.36)
Magpul Fixed Carbine Stock & MOE Grip ($30 bought used)

There's really only two patterns: DPMS which is the most affordable for .308 AR's and SR pattern which means Serious Regrets because it's expensive. The best budget option for your build would be Aero M5 which means you would need to go with the DPMS spec, Aero specifically uses DPMS high and it is very easy to locate affordable parts (sales etc) I would stay away from PSA and the Sig 716, but that's just me. The most important thing you need is the adjustable gas block and a proper buffer system for your build because AR-10's are very picky regarding those. The only thing you can interchange between SR and DPMS spec is the buffer system.

I do recommend getting the gas block I used because it's bleedoff.

Edit: If you go with the Aero M5 upper and lower, GET THE AERO LPK, you will need the Aero takedown and pivot pins for the M5 because they are longer than other makes of pins, so ensure a proper fit when assembling.

 

[BallsMcLongDong]

Anyone wanna recommend some good ideas for an M16 clone? I know Colt (CZ) still makes the AR15A4, do I just get one stock and then build from there? Or do I try to do it from scratch? Love the gun to pieces, want it to have as much of that original grungy style that the Vietnam-era M16s had. I can appreciate newer AR platforms. But something inside me calls for a classic.'



Or do I just say no and get a FAL?