Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Thorazine would do the trick, and if not, just up the dose.
Tbf filling these AGP freaks with Thorazine or Haldol would be far preferable to cutting their dicks off and letting them creep womens rest rooms and groom kids.
Frontal lobotomy would also likely stop their faggot troon shit, and again would be a better option.
 
I mean CBT is basic forebrain dogtraining, you could do it to yourself if you had the will and the smarts. But it would involve an awful lot of wrongthink. For instance you'd start with reframing, say like this:

"I am trans because I like it when skirt go spinny."
"No. I like when skirt go spinny because spinny is fun. Wearing a spinny skirt does not make a person a girl."

A lot of these people take SSRIs already (that's the main line for OCD). I am not convinced it's a chemical problem. Again- it's a social trend. That's not chemical. That is 100% behavioral. (Other than maybe the things turning the freakin frogs gay).
100% agree with the social contagion, but it's still weird and fascinating.
The pooners make more sense to me; they're the angry self-hating self-obsessed girls that have been joining self harm cults for most of recoded history. Pooning is a new expression but it fits tidily with the starving / cutting / munching / religious mortification of the flesh that they've always done.
But I can't think of any historical parallels for the mass trooning*. Was there always a population of latent AGP coomers but we hadn't reached the porn-horizon necessary to trigger it?

*There was this one weird middle aged guy in my village who dressed up in hooker clothes and fixed cars in his yard on weekends but he was a notable outlier and everyone was very nice to his ex-wife and kids. He wasn't a role model or anything.
 
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But I can't think of any historical parallels for the mass trooning*. Was there always a mass of latent AGP coomers but we hadn't reached the porn-mass necessary to trigger it?
Revolting sex based cults have existed since antiquity (For example the Cult of Dionysus or that Etruscan tomb with art depicting a BDSM themed threesome).

Unfortunately troonism is by far the largest in human history, and the things that make it unique can be quickly summarized in 3 points.

1: While previously (most) cults manifested in the upper echelons of society our civilization gives them the insurance/taxpayer dollars needed to partake in the cult, therefore making it so all but the most downtrodden can troon out if they are converted.

2: Troons are worshipped by the culture at large and are allowed to do just about anything they want to those who ruin the party by not validating their fetish as troons are in the end just useful pawns for Marxists who want to reshape society. This attracts power hungry narcissists who want to be worshipped by those around them and able play the hero by assaulting anyone labelled a blasphemer, or in the case of troons transphobes.

3: It is being actively encouraged by the ruling caste. Sure there were sex based cults in the past that were open to the public but those were almost always fringe groups that could have been ignored by the rest of the citizenry should they want to do so. Troonism meanwhile is actively recruiting new members through a relentless propoganda campaign on a scale no historical society could have ever imagined.

In addition this is largely linked to the downfall of Christianity in the West. Now before I continue I am not pushing *ANY* belief; this point will work regardless of whether atheists, muslims, or even Zoroastrians are correct. That point being that humans are by default religious creatures... Not in the sense that we all deep down want to pray but in that we will all find something to devote our lives too... Troons have replaced traditional religion in their lives with the troon cult, which is why it is called a cult in the first place. Had troons been a part of an alternate system most of them would never have considered castrating themselves while crossdressing to fight off encroaching feelings of existential dread.
 
The UTI / urethral lengthening query chick made me depressed. I couldn’t laugh at it .. It makes it so obvious how little they know, care to know or are made aware of about these surgeries. I know more than them and I’m not planning on installing the rot cock anytime soon.

These girls just don't know anything about male anatomy, do they? One reply:

"The sphincter that controls the urine is still further back, like just adding a biological straw onto the end of the natal urethra"

She seems to think the male external urethral sphincter is at the tip off the penis, hence after a phalloplasty the female urethra is "still further back." The male EUS (despite the name) is actually in a pretty homologous position to the female one:

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So, men already have the "biological straw" she is talking about (ew), but the difference is that their "straw" is actually designed to efficiently void urine, rather than being made of sewn-on arm skin.

"I’ve been told it does decrease your (longer term) UTI risk because there’s more distance between your urethra and anus"

Males get fewer UTIs because the bacteria that causes them has further to travel, not because "there’s more distance between your urethra and anus." Does this person think that people only get UTIs from their own fecal bacteria?

I don't know, these might be pedantic corrections, except for the fact that these women are giving medical advice about urethras on a subreddit dedicated to the construction of imitation male genitalia.

The FtM who posted the question is 5'1, by the way. Where do they keep finding all these tiny Gaydens?

The issue is that there's likely no direct root cause of gender identity disorder, but more a combination of various comorbidities (like OCD, autism, cluster b personality disorder); what these might have in common is probably more interesting. Namely, obsessive thought patterns (see OCD, autistic "special interests"), but also a poor sense of self (see autism, cluster b personality disorders). It wouldn't surprise me at all if these people just eventually move on to something else because society won't treat the root causes.

That's an interesting point. The way OCD presents seems to be extremely culturally influenced: these days, a lot of people with OCD get obsessed with germs and cleanliness, but obviously people 400 years ago wouldn't have been worrying about germs and washing their hands obsessively because no one knew about germs. Religious obsession was very common back then though (and still is to some extent today). The Catholics even had a name for what was essentially religious OCD (scrupulosity) hundreds of years before it got its modern name.

If you take someone with obsessive-compulsive tendencies and present them with the idea of an internal gender soul, which you are obliged to contemplate and interpret in order to be your true self, there's a good chance that their tendencies are going to express themselves as an obsession with correctly understanding their (nonexistent) gender-soul. The throughline is a fixation on the invisible and uncontrollable (tiny germs, the will of God, the gender force dwelling within...)

But I can't think of any historical parallels for the mass trooning*. Was there always a mass of latent AGP coomers but we hadn't reached the porn-mass necessary to trigger it?

I think we needed the easily available porn and the social contagion via Reddit to trigger anything like this, but there are examples throughout history of men castrating themselves for religious purposes. It's funny how all the craziest parts of religion have come back now in a newer (and much lamer) form.

Incidentally, the hijras (who are regarded by genderists as a spiritually enlightened and cherished Third Gender untouched by Western corruption) seem to resemble modern troons in practice:

The castration-rebirth gives hijrahs the spiritual power to bless or curse, which makes them feared and tolerated. But most are neither castrated nor sexually continent in actual practice (Hildebeitel, 1980; Loh, 2014; Nanda, 1999).​
Aside from their devotions, the hijrahs’ spiritual activities involve appearing at marriages and birth rites to ward off evil spirits and bless the principals (e.g., Hildebeitel, 1980; Loh, 2014; Nanda, 1999). They are, as a rule, uninvited, but must be treated well lest they curse instead of bless. They dance and sing, often abusively and sexually suggestively, until paid to leave, escalating the outrageousness of their conduct until they get what they want.
Hijrahs are considered nuisances as spiritually blackmailing beggars; most live marginalized lives, supported by prostitution or begging. Their public behavior—and society’s perception of them—resemble that of the [Roman Cybele-worshiping] Galli: they are exaggeratedly made-up cross-dressers who dance wildly to loud, percussive music and engage in transgressive bawdy behavior; they beg; and they are paid sex workers in “deviant” sex.​

Blackmail, sexual inappropriateness, getting on everyone's nerves, forcing their way into places they are not wanted, refusing to work normal jobs for a living, intentionally misleading the general public about whether they still have their male genitalia... seems an awful lot like modern American AGPs. One difference I suppose is that some hijras do actually seem to be homosexual.
 
With regard to the dysphoria=OCD tendencies+social factors hypothesis vs. a hard biological factor, I was reminded of this review: Guillamon A, Junque C, Gómez-Gil E. A Review of the Status of Brain Structure Research in Transsexualism. Arch Sex Behav. 2016 Oct;45(7):1615-48

It makes the point that most of the studies looking for brain differences in transsexuals haven't separated homosexual and heterosexual results (if they even bothered to note that at all) and many also don't note whether (or for how long) they've been using exogenous hormones. When you do consider that info,

Overall, in vivo MRI studies indicate that the main morphological parameters of the brain (ICV, GM, WM, and CSF) are congruent with their natal sex in untreated homosexual MtFs. ... So far, the studies on the white matter, like those above on gray matter, strongly suggest that [homosexual] MtFs have their own brain phenotype that mainly affects the right hemisphere. ...

In FtMs, the gross morphological parameters correspond to their natal sex; their cortex is generally feminine but differs from males in different regions than do control females (compare Fig. 2a and c). Furthermore, some brain bundles are masculinized (Fig. 3b). All these findings suggest that homosexual FtMs have their own phenotype...

So pre-hormone homos have some unique features but largely match with their birth sex. I'd argue that the differences found are more relevant to their sexuality than their 'gender'.

...data did not support the notion that the nonhomosexual MtF brain was feminized.

It's still different from male controls, though. How?

Savic and Arver (2011) found that nonhomosexual MtFs have larger gray matter volume than male and female controls in the right parieto-temporal junction and the right inferior frontal and the insular cortices. As shown above, these regions are related to body self perception.

Issues with self-perception, got it.

Nonhomosexual ... MtFs seem to share some characteristics with those who desire limb amputation. It should be noted that in most cases subjects want a left-limb amputation (First, 2005) and this may reflect some dysfunction in the right hemisphere, precisely the hemisphere in which homosexual MtFs and FtMs present differences with controls (Zubiaurre-Elorza et al., 2013).

Ok...

Recently, it was noted (Lawrence & Zucker, 2014) that a voxel-based morphometry study of pedophilic offenders found reduced gray matter in the amygdale, hypothalamus (bilaterally), septal regions, substantia innominata, and the BST (Schiltz et al., 2007). Lawrence and Zucker (2014) suggested that a feminine BSTc might be “a marker for paraphilic male sexuality or for only nonhomosexual MtF transsexualism, rather than for all types of transsexualism.

Oh dear.

So I'm inclined to think it's a little of column A and a little of column B. Trans males often crow about how some studies (indiscriminate regarding sexuality or hormone status) show tiny brain similarities to natal females in the basal ganglia and caudate nucleus. Fine -- abnormalities there are also associated with BDD, OCD ... and autism!

What it doesn't mean is that you're a whole male from birth with a 🌈female brainsoul🌸 and the world has to cater to your fantasy.

edit: needless to say, comprehensive reviews like the one I linked above are verbotten in trans circles because it cites apostates like Zucker, Blanchard, Lawrence, and Bailey.
 
Yesterday, Dr Powers made a pretty odd post on the /r/detrans subreddit.
Holy shit, I hope he keeps posting. Methinks the good doctor will be shipped off to take the rest cure for his "nervous exhaustion" soon. I hope whomever employs him has been regularly auditing their drug stocks.

Edited to say that all of the people suggesting he's not a doctor because he's a pompous blowhard are so cute.

Also, the detrans gang are just as insufferable and I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE as their troon counterparts. Almost like there's a common personality ty- nah, that's genocide.
 
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Nonhomosexual ... MtFs seem to share some characteristics with those who desire limb amputation. It should be noted that in most cases subjects want a left-limb amputation (First, 2005) and this may reflect some dysfunction in the right hemisphere, precisely the hemisphere in which homosexual MtFs and FtMs present differences with controls (Zubiaurre-Elorza et al., 2013).
The first time I even heard that transexuals were a thing was a documentary on discovery talking about this very thing. They talked both about trans and people wanting to chop body parts. I was a young kid so my memory of it is kind of dodgy but choppers were exposed to cripples when young and became envious of the attention and pity that they got.
Whores get a lot of attention online and these guys are just burning with envy.
There are some truly unhinged rants about wanting to swap bodies with a woman so "she can suffer like I suffer"

Wish I could find that documentary.
Also some madness from the 2000. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/
 
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I don't think this guy is literally evil or anything (unlike some of our surgeons), but I do think he's a self-obsessed egomaniac who has absolutely no business promoting his experimental HRT regimens to people (trans or detrans) on fucking Reddit. I do appreciate the opportunity to get a closer look into the minds of the doctors involved in trans healthcare. It's rare that you find a doctor stupid enough to overshare their thoughts to this degree.
Holy shit, I hope he keeps posting. Methinks the good doctor will be shipped off to take the rest cure for his "nervous exhaustion" soon. I hope whomever employs him has been regularly auditing their drug stocks.

I have no basis for it in this guy's particular case, but in my experience, people who have multiple hard-to-believe or extreme situations (esp bad ones) usually have something else going on personally, and it's often addiction. One hopes not, but with all his (I guess) legal drug/ hormone/ supplement experimentation covered in the clips, who knows. And Adderall and alcohol make a fantastic combination for functional alcoholism. Or maybe he just has that natural manic Tony Robbins energy. :tomgirl:

Also, he says he has been practicing transgender medicine for 10 years (I didn't cross-check dates). Per his cv he finished college in 2008 and his D.O. in 2013. After that it was "traditional" internship and general-looking stuff until he opened his clinic 4 years ago, which was originally a family practice.

His cats are badass, though. Idk how to bring over SM images, but there's one pic of one of his (now dead) enormous cat standing on its hind legs with its front paws on the kitchen counter top - and that wasn't a reach up/his shoulders were at counter-height and his head above it. There's another cat walking under him. Says they now have 6 cats. (And a human child, it appears.)

And he is kind of a Chad, as he says - rowed crew and was on student government in college, iirc. His DO med school looks decent (there are only 38 of them (DO med schools) or so, but it showed up somewhere between 95-125ish in US News for all med schools).

His energy is weird, though.
 
I don't think this guy is literally evil or anything (unlike some of our surgeons), but I do think he's a self-obsessed egomaniac who has absolutely no business promoting his experimental HRT regimens to people (trans or detrans) on fucking Reddit.
... What's your definition of "evil," then? I'm trying to understand a concept of "evil" that wouldn't include an egomaniacal zealot prescribing and promoting untested medical interventions to a well-known group of mentally ill degenerates. "Evil" doesn't require malicious intent. In this case the consequences are so severe and horrible that simply on utilitarian terms alone Dr. Powers is plainly evil, and many of his patients are too (the ones who aren't merely deranged).
 
Why is it so..... high up or is it my imagination?
Get your eyes checked, like all surgeries the rotdog is indistinguishable from a real penis.

....It's not an abdo, but I think a lot is the angle, a lot of the rest is that its southern hemisphere appears to be entirely unmoored, and the rest-rest is that she got someone to staple a burrito to her gat dam mons. I try not to look too deeply into the dogverse because it is 100% horror and 0% humor to me, but don't most try to bury the clit in the base instead of this?
 
"---and now my only ride is now hospitalized for heart issues"
sounds like an elderly person like their mom or dad.
the mom or whoever is dying from a stroke and this tranny bitch can only think about fucking other people some day with a knob of scar tissue.

if the driver is one of their parents, their heart probably stopped working because of their daughter's poor life choices and now not even god will let them drive the monster back to the ER anymore.
 
Get your eyes checked, like all surgeries the rotdog is indistinguishable from a real penis.

....It's not an abdo, but I think a lot is the angle, a lot of the rest is that its southern hemisphere appears to be entirely unmoored, and the rest-rest is that she got someone to staple a burrito to her gat dam mons. I try not to look too deeply into the dogverse because it is 100% horror and 0% humor to me, but don't most try to bury the clit in the base instead of this?
Probably right, the angle but they normally do throw it around the clit. I'm just going to assume she's one of those that wants a dick and vag maybe.

Whole thing looks wrong and will probably fall off anyway.
 
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The way so many of them take a photo of them doing that porn-inspired fire hose hold is funny, except this pooner really got her own fire hose installed. That is a freakishly huge rotdog even by this thread’s standards. No woman is going to go near that thing with lust in her eyes.
 
I have no basis for it in this guy's particular case, but in my experience, people who have multiple hard-to-believe or extreme situations (esp bad ones) usually have something else going on personally, and it's often addiction. One hopes not, but with all his (I guess) legal drug/ hormone/ supplement experimentation covered in the clips, who knows. And Adderall and alcohol make a fantastic combination for functional alcoholism. Or maybe he just has that natural manic Tony Robbins energy. :tomgirl:

His energy is weird, though.
He's also definitely pinging my personality disorder radar. Something is off about the way he presents himself. I know he claims to have autism, but I don't think that's what we're picking up on. It can be difficult to get an accurate idea of someone's real personality via text, but in this case, I think it's pretty apparent that something is amiss, even if it's not clear what exactly that "something" is.

I don't want to sound like a complete asshole here, but I just don't think he's that good at what he does. His claimed patient load is insane; the way he brags about having more troon patients per capita than any other doctor in the whole world gave me serious Jim Bob Duggar vibes. There are some cases where quantity isn't something to boast about. Also, he might have gone to a decent school, but it was still a DO (doctor of osteopathic medicine) program, not an MD. I know the osteopathic medicine people are very invested in claiming their education and qualifications are just as good, if not better than their "allopathic" rivals, but I think some scepticism regarding that assertion is justifiable. There's almost always a reason people choose a DO program, and it's not often because they actually think it's better.


“IS MY ROTDOG FALLING OFF? SHOULD I GO TO THE ER?!”

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Nah, King… Looks great! Congrats on the gender euphoria!
Even if it weren't literally rotting off of her body, can anyone wiser than I explain to me in what way(s) the shape of this neophallus in any way similar to an actual penis? It's scimitar shaped.
 
There’s no equivalent to a DO outside of the United States, so reading about it was very interesting. There are osteopaths in Europe, but none of them would be allowed to practice outside of their limited scope or claim to be a doctor/physician. I think it’s a four year degree they take, and apart from being able to read X-rays they don’t have much to do with conventional medicine.
 
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