Indiana Jones & the Dial of Destiny - Using time travel to literally retcon the series

TVBForever said:
Ironic, considering even Phoebe Waller Bridge, whose in this travesty, is also penning another Tomb Raider show for Amazon. Why has god abandoned us?
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The current Hollywood mindset is that peoples interests or experiences don't fucking matter. The material writes itself. It just needs woke people behind it that fit some identity box.

Full disclosure, I really enjoyed Fleabag. It's based of a play she wrote. Give her credit for that. YET that's a show about a selfish slut who just ruins shit for herself and coming to terms with that. Nothing speaks to her being good for an action/adventure show.

She worked on the adaption of Killing Eve, that had source material and the writing had already fallen over before the end of season one. I never continued beyond early s2 but by all accounts, it never recovered. Got worse. The first few episodes being compelling is more about performance and directing because the writing of that show was a massive turd hill.

She did some dialogue for No Time To Die. She literally just punched up some scenes. The film was written by the boys. Yet for woke and shit they have to pretend she had a much bigger role. I even saw her in interviews kind of perplexed how she was getting more credit than she deserved. Also the whole, everything good she gets credit for, everything bad it's the boys. When those writers were doing the producers wishes and had written a whole bunch of funny and clever shit previously. So it's just dumb to pretend anything clever or amusing had to the Fleabag chick.

So producers choices. I think this comes down to a large problem we have now. People who aren't suited, lack the experience or anything to say they should write something are chosen to do what the producers want. Then they sit there and go, "look we hired this person."

There's a real lack of respect for writers. I wonder if there's some spergy male aspect that has been behind a lot of great stuff over the years. Which is now just not being hired.
 
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I feel as if people should just apologize to Kingdom of the Crystal Skull right away. People shat on it for 15 years, and now it's time for people to actually give it better fair shake and avoid the new Dial of Destiny. Do not give Disney any attention, not even ironically as to hatewatch.
Screamer_2 said:
The current Hollywood mindset is that peoples interests or experiences don't fucking matter. The material writes itself. It just needs woke people behind it that fit some identity box.
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That's because the entertainment industry has been hellbent on hiring people whose more into fanfiction than actual good storytelling, and then consoomers will praise them until they get forgotten by the public.
 
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TVBForever said:
I feel as if people should just apologize to Kingdom of the Crystal Skull right away.
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Lets not do anything crazy here, unlike the prequel trilogy which I do consider has some merit even if flawed, I see no redeeming qualities to Crystal Skull even if the Dial of Dilation ends up being a lot shittier. A log of shit is still a log of shit even if you get fed maggot filled tumors later.
 
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ShitLurker said:
Lets not do anything crazy here, unlike the prequel trilogy which I do consider has some merit even if flawed, I see no redeeming qualities to Crystal Skull even if the Dial of Dilation ends up being a lot shittier. A log of shit is still a log of shit even if you get fed maggot filled tumors later.
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What makes it a log of shit though?
 
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Patrick Bait-man said:
What makes it a log of shit though?
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Bad Geriatric acting from Harrison, the fridge scene, everything to do with Shia LeBeouf, CGI is just really not up to snuff, bad pacing, villains are lame, fucking ayylmao's just showing up out of nowhere...I could go on.

Its simply a bad film, it will be better than Dial of dilation but I could say the same about the turd I pinched out into my toilet bowl.
 
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Patrick Bait-man said:
What makes it a log of shit though?
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Chilson said:
Bad Geriatric acting from Harrison, the fridge scene, everything to do with Shia LeBeouf, CGI is just really not up to snuff, bad pacing, villains are lame, fucking ayylmao's just showing up out of nowhere...I could go on.

Its simply a bad film, it will be better than Dial of dilation but I could say the same about the turd I pinched out into my toilet bowl.
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Chilson pretty much already covered, soulless doesn't even cover it, ignoring the phantom menace which I was too young to process how shit it was at least I had some decent army pew pew scenes in the Clone Wars and the third one is a decent film. Only joy I got from Indi is the shitty CGI from monkey Lebouf.
 
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Chilson said:
Bad Geriatric acting from Harrison, the fridge scene, everything to do with Shia LeBeouf, CGI is just really not up to snuff, bad pacing, villains are lame, fucking ayylmao's just showing up out of nowhere...I could go on.

Its simply a bad film, it will be better than Dial of dilation but I could say the same about the turd I pinched out into my toilet bowl.
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  1. Harrison Ford's acting was good and for his age he did a great job with the film (most of the stunts were performed by him).
  2. The fridge scene is always brought up when talking about it, as if over-the-top shit never happened in the original films (i.e much of The Temple of Doom). They're supposed to be reminiscent of classic B-movies; they were never real serious to begin with.
  3. I didn't hate Shia LaBeouf, I thought he was fine and had good chemistry with Harrison Ford.
  4. This, I can understand. They decided to film solely within the US instead of internationally as they did before, which resulted in using a lot of CGI. I think it generally holds up for the most part, but some scenes definitely haven't aged well (the jungle rope scene). Though it should be noted that there isn't quite as much CGI in the film as you would think there is, even though much of it looks like so.
  5. I never had an issue with the pacing.
  6. I thought Cate Blanchett was great as Irina Spalko, but she could've used some more screen time.
  7. The original Indiana Jones films were based off of the tropes and themes associated with their time period (1930s adventure serials), and Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is no different (set in the 1950s with the height of the Cold War, Russians, and early Sci-Fi of which in this case is aliens).
This video does a great job of further explaining everything in-depth regarding Kingdom of the Crystal Skull:
Along with this:

It's fairly flawed but I still thought it was a solid film and a good entry in the franchise, even though it is the weakest. But when is a film not flawed?
 
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Morethanabitfoolish said:
Oh, please no?
I'd take a Librarians reboot over that. That movie series/show at least knew how campy it was.
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Awwwww, don't dis The Librarians. I have a soft-spot for that show. It may not have had budget but it had a lot of sincerity and it had a pretty solid moral core. The plots and resolutions were actually pretty clever, most of the time.


If we're going to have time travelling archaeologists, I'd a hundred times over take more Librarians than this trash.
 
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Overly Serious said:
Awwwww, don't dis The Librarians. I have a soft-spot for that show. It may not have had budget but it had a lot of sincerity and it had a pretty solid moral core. The plots and resolutions were actually pretty clever, most of the time.


If we're going to have time travelling archaeologists, I'd a hundred times over take more Librarians than this trash.
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I preferred the movies, mostly because me and my dad caught one of them when Scyfy channel was a relatively new addition to the offerings from Sky so it was novel to us both. Think it might have been the one with the vampires?

I did enjoy the series too, it was like Warehouse 13, Haven or Town Called Eureka (and maybe Chuck too), easy watching of popcorn quality but good despite that. I also have a soft spot for Christian Kane so his presence helped even if Leverage: Redemption is not something he or Aldis Hodge can save.

A Librarians reboot now would be the same standard as the Leverage sequel series, the current year focus would be the only thing that mattered. But because of just how silly the show/movies were that might still be workable.
 
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Morethanabitfoolish said:
I preferred the movies, mostly because me and my dad caught one of them when Scyfy channel was a relatively new addition to the offerings from Sky so it was novel to us both. Think it might have been the one with the vampires?

I did enjoy the series too, it was like Warehouse 13, Haven or Town Called Eureka (and maybe Chuck too), easy watching of popcorn quality but good despite that. I also have a soft spot for Christian Kane so his presence helped even if Leverage: Redemption is not something he or Aldis Hodge can save.

A Librarians reboot now would be the same standard as the Leverage sequel series, the current year focus would be the only thing that mattered. But because of just how silly the show/movies were that might still be workable.
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Judas Chalice was the one with the Vampires. Had Stana Katic in it as the absurdly hot French one and Bruce Davison who always plays a good villain.
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Please, no reboots of The Librarians, though. The original cast and writing were fine - no need to subject them to the curse of remakes. And you can't replace Bruce Campbell as Santa.

EDIT: I realise now by reboot you mean a successor series set in current year. It was a fun series but they brought it to a proper close and wrapped things up. They got four seasons out of it on the back of some zero budget TV movies which is impressive and it stayed pretty decent up until the end. But all shows need to know when they've had their time. And I think that's as long as anything can be expected to run and still feel fresh.
 
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Overly Serious said:
Judas Chalice was the one with the Vampires. Had Stana Katic in it as the absurdly hot French one and Bruce Davison who always plays a good villain.
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Please, no reboots of The Librarians, though. The original cast and writing were fine - no need to subject them to the curse of remakes. And you can't replace Bruce Campbell as Santa.

EDIT: I realise now by reboot you mean a successor series set in current year. It was a fun series but they brought it to a proper close and wrapped things up. They got four seasons out of it on the back of some zero budget TV movies which is impressive and it stayed pretty decent up until the end. But all shows need to know when they've had their time. And I think that's as long as anything can be expected to run and still feel fresh.
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I was using reboot poorly there, thanks for clarifying.

Also while the image you posted it would be hard to miss it just for everyone's benefit. Yes, that is Kate Beckett from the Castle series and Robert Kelly from the X-men films.

Bruce Campbell Santa was great.

Yeah, the comparison between early seasons of Supernatural and the later ones say is almost physically painful.
 
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I'll tell you why I know I am a troubled human. You see, after the last Indy film there is absolutely no question this new one is going to suck, and like the one before it, 5 mins into the film, I knew this already; but while I won't pay a dime to watch this new film I just know that when it lands on TV I'm still going to watch it cause I gotta know.

This is what it means to be human, subjecting ourselves to unpleasant experiences to satisfy our curiosity - it makes us a sick species indeed.
 
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