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[DumbDude43]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

jesus/god knew that his impending betrayal was predestined to happen
the betrayer(s) didn't

 

[WelperHelper99]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

Yes and no. Technically the price was paid in the garden of Gethsemane where he sweated blood, but there was some stuff to do in heaven too. The problem is the cruelty. They staked him to the cross, unusual for the time when most were simply tied, stabbed him with a spear, made him drink vinegar, and he was there for hours until he died.

 

[Nikes_JustDoIt]

Yes and no. Technically the price was paid in the garden of Gethsemane where he sweated blood, but there was some stuff to do in heaven too. The problem is the cruelty. They staked him to the cross, unusual for the time when most were simply tied, stabbed him with a spear, made him drink vinegar, and he was there for hours until he died.

Spoiler: off-topic Christian sperg

Stabbed with the spear was after his death, but he was brutally beaten before his death, he asked for the vinegar to fulfil the scriptures.

 

[ABE LINN COHN]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

They still killed a man who had done no wrong purely because he went against their narrative. Just because God uses evil to create a greater good does not mean the evildoers are not still responsible for evil.

 

[Corpun]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

True but still, when he was brought before Pilate, Pilate saw him as innocent of everything he was accused of. Dude tried everything in his power to not execute Haysus, going as far as giving people a choice in executing him or a literal murderous criminal going free.

 

[Vesperus]

-=Easter Sperging=-
For the next few pages we shall now discuss God's Ineffable Plan, the nature of Sacrifice, and if Judas Iscariot had free will. Bonus points for anyone bringing up Incident in Judea.

At least until reddit does something interesting.

 

[No Exit]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

Imagine that someone came back in time to inform you that your mother is going to be violently run over by a drunk driving nigger, die a slow painful death, and that there's nothing you can do about it. But also that her death will somehow also bring about peace on earth forever.
Sure, peace is cool and all but fuck that nigger.

 

[Vesperus]

Sure, peace is cool and all but fuck that nigger.

But, would you try and stop it?
Could you stop it?

 

[Tootsie Bear]

Just When you thought Childfree was one of the worst subreddits. Petfree takes the shit cake with sprinkles.

 

[No Exit]

But, would you try and stop it?
Could you stop it?

If you're talking outside my metaphor than entire wars and church divisions sprouted up over the implication of those questions.
If you mean inside my metaphor then yeah I would try and stop it but I did specify it couldn't actually be stopped.

Just When you thought Childfree was one of the worst subreddits. Petfree takes the shit cake with sprinkles.
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They're not wrong but damn redditors really have a sort of detestable smugness with how they write no matter what subject they write about.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

Some people really want to follow the millions of laws in Leviticus, I guess.

 

[Bioniclelover]

Just When you thought Childfree was one of the worst subreddits. Petfree takes the shit cake with sprinkles.

Maybe I am missing something but childfree still looks like the deranged one here.

 

[Weeby Catto]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

The thing, no one knows that was supposed to happen(not even satan), especially the jews. The jews always thought that their messiah will be great and will grand, that's why when he was crucified, they told him "if you are God, you can certainly stop yourself from being crucifed"

A lot of people back then were blinded by their own super righteousness(arrogance), even the great apostle Paul think as such. So even though it is actually prophesied in the scriptures, many cannot see it when Jesus is front of them.

Even though it was going to happen, that also doesn't mean that they are "predestined" to make the choice without free will. The ones that are bad will naturally be a hypocrite and chose the criminal over Jesus. But the ones that have a conscience like Pontius Pilate, naturally see it as an injustice and wamted nothing to do with His death.

In a crude analogy, it's kinda like niggers, let a shop be unguarded, and they will rob it, you just knew it 10/10 times because it's expected. But there's always that better black dude who knew better and try to stop other niggers from robbing the store, and all of these people are doing it out of free will. So despite them doing what is foretold by god, that doesn't excuse their choice.

Which is why Jesus also said near the end to forgive all these people, for they do not know what they are doing.

 

[Vesperus]

Maybe I am missing something but childfree still looks like the deranged one here.

If you are child-free and Pet-free, just kill yourself and stop using up our resources.

Bonus points if you get nailed to a cross in the process.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

This isn't about a specific subreddit or post but about one of their beloved idols Neil Degrasse Tyson. It makes so much sense why Reddit loves him because is a smug egotistical dick who loves to talk over and correct people. He loves to hear himself talk and relishes in talking down to people. I never fully understood why he was so beloved by Reddit until watching his Joe Rogan interview. This is who they see themselves as when they are debating atheism for the 1000th time (minus the education and success obviously)

 

[Bioniclelover]

If you are child-free and Pet-free, just kill yourself and stop using up our resources.

Bonus points if you get nailed to a cross in the process.

idgi

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

Reddit tier take

 

[Vesperus]

idgi

Most of these retards are Uber leftists who "think" there are too many people.

Fair enough, it's a free country.

But they think there's too many people like you rather too many niggers.

They hang around wanting updoots and gibs. Because if they actually wanted less worthless white people they would learn about knots.

 

[Pro. Memer]

Another fat whining woman on /r/loseit got offended when somebody tells her to put down the fork.
Clicked on her profile, and it's mildly hilarious. Dozens of the classic fat woman selfie with the occasional bipolar posting.

 

[Kongo-Müller]

I never understood this argument. Wasn't Jesus's death first of all: in accordance with God's will and second of all, necessary so that those who believe in him could be redeemed? Why get angry at those who were responsible for his torture? Isn't that sort of missing the point of what Jesus set out to do?

In the first couple of centuries AD there was actually at least one strain of Christianity (Ebionitism) that outright denied Jesus' divinity and saw him as a mere prophet and mentor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebionites#On_Jesus_the_Nazarene

There was also the whole sub-set of Jewish Christianity that saw Jesus as the Messiah of the Chosen People, and demanded that gentiles first convert to Judaism before they can be inducted into Christianity, because only Jews would be eligible for redemption and entering heaven.

The movement of Paul of Tarsus eventually won out and defined the doctrine of what would later become Orthodox/Catholic mainstream Christianity of late antiquity, not in a small part because he made an argument that conversion to Judaism was an unnecessary extra step - a very convenient and popular argument from the POV of the gentiles.
Only from there, a clear distinction between Christianity and Judaism formed, rather than Christianity being seen as a mere extension and variation of Judaism.