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Robyn did a long post of stories about Luna's progression:
This video has some of the images, but not the videos.
Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights
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Robyn did a long post of stories about Luna's progression:
This video has some of the images, but not the videos.
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"And here we are today, thriving"
Oh Robyn, your idea of thriving and reality are very, very different.
Poor Luna is clearly not thriving. No amount of Sadhanas, Healys, crystals, green smoothies and grass fed butter can ever change that.
Oh Robyn, your idea of thriving and reality are very, very different.
Poor Luna is clearly not thriving. No amount of Sadhanas, Healys, crystals, green smoothies and grass fed butter can ever change that.
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She hasn't been thriving since most of her brain was destroyed while trapped in Robyn's birth canal. She's been slowly dying ever since.
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One of the captions reads “it was from that furry that I reached out…“ - I was not aware that Furries had the first thing to do with Luna or her parents, but good to know.
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“But I had a clam voice within, my intuition (…)”
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I don't doubt watching your child slowly die is soul crushing and it's safe to say it's made Robyn lose her mind... But yet again, whose fault is that in the first place? No, Robyn, it's not conventional medicine than failed your daughter. It was your lack of common sense, vanity, I don't even know what, that caused this. It seems the only mistake these surgeons made was predicting Luna's life expectancy. Other than her brain injury, she was clearly healthy and her body held on for a year, but that doesn't mean the docs were wrong. They probably knew the shunt would only prolong her miserable existence.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'll share anyway. I almost feel bad for Robyn because she really believes the false narrative. She really thinks that doctor saved Luna's life and her intuition led her to find him, and that dancing PA. She really believes Luna's thriving and everything is hunky-dory. And most importantly, this is all thanks to Robyn. She knew better, she knows better and this experience has elevated her to such great heights that she's basically a super human at this point.
She's a hopeless combination of narcissism, stupidity and delusion.
P.S. She's also lying about the diagnosis, saying Luna was diagnosed with hydrocephalus to make her followers believe this wasn't caused by a birth injury.
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I'll share anyway. I almost feel bad for Robyn because she really believes the false narrative. She really thinks that doctor saved Luna's life and her intuition led her to find him, and that dancing PA. She really believes Luna's thriving and everything is hunky-dory. And most importantly, this is all thanks to Robyn. She knew better, she knows better and this experience has elevated her to such great heights that she's basically a super human at this point.
She's a hopeless combination of narcissism, stupidity and delusion.
P.S. She's also lying about the diagnosis, saying Luna was diagnosed with hydrocephalus to make her followers believe this wasn't caused by a birth injury.
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I love and hate when she posts these sorts of things. She’s thriving! Doing well! Let me show you her condition worsen and her head EXPAND like a balloon! So well!
It’s morbid. Heart breaking to see at the same time… then I remember robyn choose the woo over her daughter and it’s her fault so I don’t feel bad for her. I feel bad for Luna and the person she should/would have been. God damn.
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It's more likely high (muscle) tone from her brain injury, combined with her never having any kind of supportive braces on her hands and feet.
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Every day I see this thread near the top of the list, I hope it's because the poor thing has died and get sad after I enter and see that it's not.
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Luna's condition is entirely Robyn's fault and she compounded the tragedy by almost starving her daughter to death afterwards, and she really out here applauding herself for 'saving' her during 'the hardest journey of [Robyn's] life'.
Narcissism is just... Wow.
Narcissism is just... Wow.
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I get what you're saying, but I don't feel bad for Robyn at all. This is narcissism and arrogance - vices on their own for sure, but doubly so when those two cause you to handicap your child and torture them for years.
MATI for a moment, but these threads upset me more than most because she doesn't care about Luna. She never cared about Luna. It's about Robyn's self-fulfillment of some crunchy mom fantasy. Her home birth ideal was more important than her child's well-being. Her magic healing bullshit and belief is more important than her child's well-being. Every single step of the way, from that first fateful pee stick, has been about Robyn and Robyn alone.
She genuinely does believe this stuff, I'm sure. But it doesn't change the fact that she consistently chooses her daughter's suffering over the discomfort of having to admit you're wrong.
Most parents would suffer their child's burden tenfold if they could. She didn't want to suffer some humility to save her own child.
Luna is an innocent child forced to live a torturous existence not due to the cruelty of nature, but due to her mother's unrelenting narcissism. All of this could be avoided if Robyn was capable of ever admitting she was wrong.
That's fucking depressing.
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Yeah Robyn doesn't care about Luna because narcissists don't have the capacity to care about others, including their own children. I've said before, but a narcissist views their children as just objects or extensions of themselves that exist to get them narcissistic supply, and if they can't/won't do that the kid can drop dead for all the narc cares.
If Robyn is grieving or in denial of anything, it's the fact that she fucked up and will eventually loose the thing that lets her play super spechul warrior mama instinct healing goddess(plz buy Healy kthx!!!).
If Robyn is grieving or in denial of anything, it's the fact that she fucked up and will eventually loose the thing that lets her play super spechul warrior mama instinct healing goddess(plz buy Healy kthx!!!).
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I think Robyn actually likes Luna more this way. If she was a normal kid like poor neglected Atlas with her own personality and behaviour she wouldn’t spend near as much time with her (when she’d actually need attention)
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Yeah, this is a good explanation. She definitely has some mixed tone, which just means some of her muscles are too tight and others are too flaccid. Specifically, it looks like her limbs are extremely spastic while her torso and abdomen are hypotonic and "floppy". This is a textbook presentation of neonatal hypoxic-ischemic injury and an indication of severe, global brain damage.
This seems like a good place for me to say yet again that I would love to see an MRI of Luna's brain.
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She has to believe it. If she doesn’t, and faces the reality of what she (and her enablers, husband included) did to her child, her mind would break.
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Luckily for Robyn, I don't think she can. Narcissists don't have the capacity to understand being at fault. It's like their brain shorts out and it instantly triggers a defense mechanism (usually denial or trying to shift blame elsewhere).
When Luna finally goes to the big potato patch in the sky I'm sure Robyn will be blaming those evil doctors and everyone but herself. And she'll definitely be eye-fucking up a storm.
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“You’ve beloved [sic] in Luna since day one.” Goddamn, she’s stupid.
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I seen this thread many times but stayed away because I would get MATI. But I must ask- is Luna’s head going to continue grow as she does? If so, how would normal people and actual doctors… handle this? Would they have a brace or something to support her head?
I clarify “normal people” because I know they refuse any and all decent medical advice, and I am genuinely wondering in the case of normal people. Of course, most normal people wouldn’t have this happen to begin with.
I clarify “normal people” because I know they refuse any and all decent medical advice, and I am genuinely wondering in the case of normal people. Of course, most normal people wouldn’t have this happen to begin with.
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Oh my god they are really trying to make balloon head walk and interact with atlas via straight up puppetry. I don’t know who I feel worse for Luna even tho she’s a potato or atlas who has no idea of the reality but will one day.
Also she is eerily still in the 7th video. Maybe the most still in any video robyn has posted. Heck in all of these despite them being short she seems… still? She blinks in that video then it’s like nothing from there. Could this be a sign she’s slowing down? It’s really strange. I know it’s a short video but there’s barely any seizure movements in the puppetry video too. She kinda lip smacks then it’s just open. The hands perma balled up with a slight
On one now tho