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That's funny, I seem to recall China having some rather large incidents involving over-valued, un-occupied real estate, as well as bank runs fairly recently...
Chinese Military Operations in Taiwan
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Taiwan's importance to the US and Japan extends far beyond a semiconductor plant
Saying that most of China's economy isn't made up numbers discredits anything you have to say re: China in perpetuity lol
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Chinese economic statistics are notoriously unreliable. Their economy is made up numbers on a regional development secretary's spreadsheet instead of on a quant's spreadsheet.
Empty cities that no one is going to live in aren't assets, and are often liabilities.
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They didn't shit the bed like us, but our shit ended up leaking over to them. The massive push for transport and infrastructure was born out of a job slump from that era. And their numbers are just as fudged, fake and jewed like ours. Evergrande is still a major fuckup, lots of run-of-the-mill Chinese lost their life savings in that collapse. The feds are just very good at keeping their pesants in check, something they inherited from their past.
Confessions of an Economic Hitman is still a very good read in modern times. China's learning from us all the time, including how to use a nation's economy to wage war without putting troops on the ground.
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Good thing nothing is actually happening in Taiwan or this thread would be beyond worthless to stay up-to-date with events.
Why must every A&H thread about a military conflict end up degenerating into a bunch of DCS/WoT aspies shitting up the disucssion with worthless factoids about war machines...
Why must every A&H thread about a military conflict end up degenerating into a bunch of DCS/WoT aspies shitting up the disucssion with worthless factoids about war machines...
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Plz stay on topic. No, I don't care that you want to spent 50 posts jerking off over a single FUCKING screw. Niggers, at least pretend your posts have something to do with the topic at hand
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Surely the topic is how screwed Taiwan might be?
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dunno how reliable this is, but here we go:
1 big thing: U.S. allies prepare for possibility of war over Taiwan
might be another nothingburger, but at least people have something to think about
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For now, very little. The war in Ukraine is the first modern war since....fuck, probably WWII. Where direct world powers tackled (China was NOT a world power in Korea and Vietnam yet). Everyone on Earth is taking notes, especially China.
Taiwian is a bit harder since invading an island is a fucking pain in the ass and China is probably massively redoing ammo calculations and building tons of ammo factories. So I don't think it'll be soon. Because the West's supply chains from Ukraine are FUCKED, also our recruiting goals are down. There's 0 will among people to fight against China, and we are continually depleting our ammo for large conflicts for Ukraine. Maybe not our best shit, but certainly ammo to supply it.
For now, China is content to go behind our back and slice at our tendons economically and do as much damage there as possible, as well as exacerbate supply chain issues so our resupply will take a very long time while expanding their own supply chains. Ukraine just showed China it doesn't have nearly enough ammo and shit to do Taiwain against a comprehensive global alliance.
I don't think China is ready to do anything to Taiwian at this point in time besides work to destroy American unipolar dominance, further restrict supply chains and build up desire to be a trade partner to allies sick of the US Shit. Its going for economic warfare at this point. It is clearly preparing for something, but nothing very soon. It will be using this time to fuck us over for what we're doing in Ukraine and basically recruit and train while our recruitment drops off a cliff. Nobody wants to die to fight fucking China for US interests in Taiwain for an opposition government that has caused us nothing but agony who we only support because it gives us leverage over enemies, but in reality has just made common enemies come together, ala Israel. Taiwain is the same sort of shit. Except unlike Israel it contains advanced industry, which means we're forced to support it.
But I'm not taking a Chinese missile up the ass to defend chip manufacturers and an insane, nationalistic government that has been an active impediment to normalized relations with China by having a government that just so happens to be ready to rush in and replace the Chinese government when we thought we could do regime change. Sorry, not dying for fucktarded foreign policy that a child could have predicted would be a problem.
More than likely what China is doing is economic war for Russia as well as use Ukraine to elevate its own diplomatic position rather than focusing on Taiwain. Which will be a conflict in the future, but not in the next 3 to 5 years. The major problem is Western powers will not have recovered from the Ukrainain ammo and weapon drain by then. We're looking at a decade at least to build up jobs, factories, chains, etc. to even get it going, and a lot of money. And we're still depleting stocks for them. So we'll still be on weaker footing than China will be, because they're not burning through anything while we are. By the time China is ready, they'll have built and established everything they've needed, while we'll be in the middle of it. Which is the real danger.
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I went sniffing for this thread to bring some doomsperging on this very topic.
China is seemingly on the verge of cutting off at least one very important resource for the MIC from American trade. New orders have come into the plant I work at, and now the raw resources themselves are being stockpiled, not just parts and refined material. We are literally hoovering up all the supply available, and just putting it into storage.
Today alone, I've seen a month's supply of raw product pass through to our warehouse. Something, I don't know what, but something is afoot
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This means nothing to us unless you can specify what raw material you're referencing. Suppliers stockpile shit all the time for a variety of reasons.
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Not going to say what exactly, because I'm not about to self-dox. That being said, I did realize I forgot to mention something. We (the company) aren't stockpiling it on our own direction. The American Government is, we are the middlemen for this. All this shit is going into our warehouse, but it's technically State property.
The bulk of this stuff normally comes from China, so the urgency to get more is why I personally am somewhat alarmed. Old-timers are saying they've never seen anything like this. And it's not the behavior of "normal" stockpiling. The Company had a massive stockpile already (we're talking two years of raw product IIRC) and that was only growing. The government also bought the Company stockpile!
This also isn't occuring in a vacuum. I've already mentioned this on KF, but the government seems to be pulling in a lot more of the actual parts and product we make. This past few months have seen a huge shift in order volume, and timeframe/urgency on behalf of the American government. There's just something abnormal about all this, not just in my opinion but according to my coworkers who have been here twenty-thirty years.
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Hint below:
EXCLUSIVE Pentagon to boost rare earths and lithium stockpiles -sourc…
archived 23 Feb 2022 12:55:35 UTC
EXCLUSIVE Pentagon to boost rare earths and lithium stockpiles -sources
The Pentagon plans to boost the stockpile of rare earth minerals, cobalt and lithium it manages for the U.S. government to reduce its long-term dependence on China, two people familiar with the plan said.
www.reuters.com
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Good news, TBH.
As usual jurnoscum don't bother to report what's happening on the ground, all we get are reports on press breifings and reports.
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Yeah no shit the US government is preparing for war with China
Both sides have accepted it is going to happen, everything now is jockeying to be in the best position possible when it starts sometime in the next ten years
Both sides have accepted it is going to happen, everything now is jockeying to be in the best position possible when it starts sometime in the next ten years
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The "Davidson window" predicts an invasion sometime between 2024 and 2027, for various reasons including an expected local minimum in the US Navy's fleet size:
news.usni.org
I think they'll probably go sooner rather than later now that Taiwan's looking at Ukraine and taking its own defense more seriously. An invasion or blockade in spring 2024 after Taiwan's next Presidential election is my bet.
Davidson: China Could Try to Take Control of Taiwan In 'Next Six Years' - USNI News
China could attempt to take control of Taiwan by the end of the decade, the admiral leading U.S. Indo-Pacific Command said today. Testifying in front of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Adm. Phil Davidson said China’s aggression in the region leads him to believe its goal of seizing Taiwan...
news.usni.org
Pentagon budget 2023: USN sees dip in fleet size before ship-count increase in long term
US Navy (USN) officials detailed plans on 28 March, during the release of documents supporting their Fiscal Year (FY) 2023 budget request, that would result in a dip of...
www.janes.com
I think they'll probably go sooner rather than later now that Taiwan's looking at Ukraine and taking its own defense more seriously. An invasion or blockade in spring 2024 after Taiwan's next Presidential election is my bet.
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Just to get things rolling again, interesting article. Confirms what we've been thinking, that Taiwan would blow up the TSMC plant in the event of an invasion.
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When we finally smash China I want a mandatory reduction in population to 50% US levels.
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I just want Taiwan to detonate the island in emergency of absolute defeat, be petty as fuck.