Are you getting the vaccine? - Absolute trashfire thread, please enter with caution

Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Again, the doctors (who make a fuckton of money) wouldn't lose their jobs if their kids and families weren't vaccinated. They also would much prefer their families to be alive than to have said job. They also wouldn't go out of their way to promote the vaccine and would speak out against it while providing evidence that isn't watching Tucker Carlson. You may not have human emotions, but most people would put their family's well being ahead of everything.

It's funny how you just can't fathom that maybe, just maybe, people who study a subject for a living know more about it than you do and there's not a vast conspiracy that would require millions of highly educated people to keep their mouths shut. Everything is a conspiracy to you. You do know that belief in baseless conspiracy theories has been linked to having a low intellect, right?

And to turn your own statement around, you're assuming that Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones, both of whom admitted in court that they tell lies to their audience, aren't lying to you. That's a stupid assumption on your part
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You think they wouldn't take a risk when their family would be driven from society and banned from most (eventually all) forms of work? You really don't understand people, do you? People who did this knowing it was potentially risky did so because they figured the risk of their kids being depersoned was a greater certainty.

Think about the Ukraine leaks. We had the media, militaries, governments, NGOs, corporate advertising, and so on telling us the exact opposite of what was going on. With all of these entities lying and smearing and firing anyone who talked sense could go this far, why would it be any less likely during COVID when they all did the same things?

Also, Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones again? I don't watch either. The thing is, you can't come up with ideas on your own, so you assume we're listening to Bad TV Men when we have opposing viewpoints.
 
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Yes? For those of us with human emotions, we put our family's well being ahead of everything. That includes giving them super duper dangerous vaccines. Besides, at least some of them would come forward with evidence that it's dangerous. And it'd be doctors and not conmen like Tucker Carlson.

Oh, you're one of those "UKRAINE LEAKS" alt-righters. Of course you believe every conspiracy you hear. Like I said, believing conspiracy theories has been linked to a low intellect, so it doesn't surprise me you'd believe them. And you do know that the Ukraine leaks, which aren't even a big deal, would just mean the government was covering it up and not millions of doctors world-wide, right? Again, I know you have autism and a low intellect, but you can do better than this man.

You clearly believe that listening to grifters makes you know more about medicine than people who study it for a living. You somehow think there's a huge conspiracy, encompassing millions of doctors world-wide, and none have come forward. Even China's and Russia's doctors haven't come forward to say how dangerous the American vaccines are. It must be nice to be as arrogant as you are
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
@Akari Is My Wife (it won't let me quote you)

Yes? For those of us with human emotions, we put our family's well being ahead of everything. That includes giving them super duper dangerous vaccines. Besides, at least some of them would come forward with evidence that it's dangerous. And it'd be doctors and not conmen like Tucker Carlson.

Oh, you're one of those "UKRAINE LEAKS" alt-righters. Of course you believe every conspiracy you hear. Like I said, believing conspiracy theories has been linked to a low intellect, so it doesn't surprise me you'd believe them. And you do know that the Ukraine leaks, which aren't even a big deal, would just mean the government was covering it up and not millions of doctors world-wide, right? Again, I know you have autism and a low intellect, but you can do better than this man.

You clearly believe that listening to grifters makes you know more about medicine than people who study it for a living. You somehow think there's a huge conspiracy, encompassing millions of doctors world-wide, and none have come forward. Even China's and Russia's doctors haven't come forward to say how dangerous the American vaccines are. It must be nice to be as arrogant as you are
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People with human emotions would know they felt powerless and chose the course of action they believed had fewer risks. Besides, look at how many people hate on their own kids in social media for their "privilege" or supported lockdowns knowing the harm they'd do to their kids. Lots of people don't care that much about their children, as the lolcows on here prove.

My point about the Ukraine leaks ("which are totally doctored, really! Please don't leak anymore" -- NATO) is that people outside of literal governments kept the grift going, across multiple industries in multiple countries worldwide. Experts have been coming out just like during COVID, but they're smeared when they can't be ignored by the media. I mean, you're even brushing them off as unimportant and not worthy of consideration, just like you guys do with anything criticizing your precious COVID stuff. We're just blowing all our money and international influence so that Zelensky can slaughter the citizens of his own country. They've killed so many men over there that they may never rebuild their population without a flood of foreigners. NBDIG.

How many people went along just to save their careers, or to profit somehow? Why would they be cowardly or crooked and do exactly what I'm saying they did, when doctors and doctors alone are above such things?

Besides, who's saying "conspiracy theorists" have low IQs? I mean, it's not like TPTB haven't smeared "conspiracy theorists" to the point you can't even go, "maybe these powerful people we know work together are working together like they clearly are" gets midwits screaming about Alex Jones or some other boogeyman
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
I know you're a simpleton, but "medical professional" means someone who practices medicine for a living, which would not be Stephen Colbert. You claim that 99% of medical professionals are wrong and thus you know more than they do. Why are you so narcissistic to be uneducated, low IQ and still claim to know more about a subject than people who study it for a living? Now, stop dodging the question like it's a non-bible based education


I am mocking you, too. You're in here throwing a tantrum because I am not an alt-right, anti-vax retard. You should go back to /pol/ since you want an alt-right manlet echo chamber so badly. You're proving the adage that 2022 join dates are generally retards pretty correct


Except said medical professionals have gotten their families vaccinated, too. So you're saying that medical professionals are willing to kill their own families with a dangerous vaccine just to push this lie? Even for being an anti-vax simpleton with an anime avatar, you're a retard
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Still not taking it 😏
 
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@Akari Is My Wife studies have linked belief in baseless conspiracy theories with a lower intellect.

And yes, again, I understand you have autism real bad and thus have no human emotions, but if a doctor thought the vaccine was super duper dangerous, they wouldn't get their families vaccinated and instead would speak out about it, with proof. Instead, you believe randos on the internet over people who study medicine for aliving. Because again, you have a low intellect. It's okay, not your fault. The education system failed you

But then again, I know whose sock you are. I am surprised that you came back after you got run off here
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
@Akari Is My Wife studies have linked belief in baseless conspiracy theories with a lower intellect.

And yes, again, I understand you have autism real bad and thus have no human emotions, but if a doctor thought the vaccine was super duper dangerous, they wouldn't get their families vaccinated and instead would speak out about it, with proof. Instead, you believe randos on the internet over people who study medicine for aliving. Because again, you have a low intellect. It's okay, not your fault. The education system failed you

But then again, I know whose sock you are. I am surprised that you came back after you got run off here
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Studies can lie, you know that, right?
 
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Akari Is My Wife said:
Where did I do that, Again, you're going to extremes.
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You literally are believing that millions of doctors could be kept quiet about this super duper dangerous vaccine, that they themselves got for themselves and their families, all because you listen to grifters and schizos on the internet

Welcome back, Nobue!
 
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once again, retarded anti-vaxers coming in here whining about a vaccine they have no intention of getting. and they're still whining over being mildly inconvenienced by "lockdowns" and having to wear a mask. these poor souls, so downtrodden, so persecuted, I pity them so.
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
You literally are believing that millions of doctors could be kept quiet about this super duper dangerous vaccine, that they themselves got for themselves and their families, all because you listen to grifters and schizos on the internet

Welcome back, Nobue!
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You're seeing alts everywhere. Maybe people just disagree with you.
 
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Hollywood Hulk Hogan said:
Answer my questions
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I don't think I have a specific reason for thinking I know more about medicine than The Late Show writers, but it doesn't seem that far fetched for me. Are you saying that because they're successful hollywood types they know more about medicine than the average person?
 
Let's shift this some, the slapfighting is kinda boring.

Questions for the pro-vaxx side:
- should state mandate these vaccines? If yes, what punishments are appropriate for refusal? If yes, should mandates apply to Sputnik or Sinopharm vaccines, or only to mRNA ones? Should we still have periodic lockdowns if experts say that a new variant is dangerous enough? Should we mandate masks, if yes, which ones, why, and where?

Questions for the anti-vaxx side:
- should state ban the vaccines made for COVID? Do you think that there is enough harm caused by the vaccines that would warrant forbidding them? Should other vaccines be banned, if yes, which and why? What constitutes sufficient data for you to decide that harm was caused by a vaccine, and not a deterioration in health due to other factors, like age, obesity, or just random illness? Would you trust a medical specialist with operating you for a tumor, putting you on chemo, bolting some broken bone together? If yes, what makes a neuro surgeon or orthopedist so incredibly different compared to a virologist?
 
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Questions for the anti-vaxx side:
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>should state ban the vaccines made for COVID?
Nah. People have the right to fuck with their health however they want. Incidentally, all drugs should be legal, and prescriptions should be a doctors' guideline, not a required permission slip to buy something.
>Would you trust a medical specialist with operating you for a tumor, putting you on chemo, bolting together some broken bone together?
No, No, Yes. Because the first two of these are in the purview of doctors, and one is in the purview of a surgeon. Surgeons are somewhat trustworthy, doctors as a whole are not. As somebody who has been fucked by misdiagnoses before, fuck most doctors. They are about as good as indian tech support is at troubleshooting a computer program. Surgeons however never wronged me, my bones healed up fine, and I got stitched up fine.

Conflating all medical professions into "medical specialists" is a special kind of retardation for which I can only wish you a 10 hour wait in an ER during the middle of a pandemic.
 
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