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Is it over?

  • Yes, I am sad and need a Ben backrub :(

    Votes: 331 31.7%

  • No, we will be back, autism too strong

    Votes: 528 50.6%

  • Cams down until we roll into Bloodgames 2

    Votes: 185 17.7%
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Übertroon said:
You know this concept is gold and attracting attention online with the amount of accounts seeping in here to complain about Sam Hyde as a person
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Yeah this is just Big Brother with TTS/ip2 with less rape and air duster. Our monkey brains just enjoy watching other's being physiologically tortured it's why Big brother is coming up on 25 years on TV.
 
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Bitchnado said:
The level of Sam dick-riding and total nonchalant acceptance of this fuckup as if this is not a beyond-lolcow-tier level of incompetence is staggering. I bet the sad fucks who paid $40 for this travesty won't even bother trying to refund because their poor Internet daddy figure needs their money more than ever now. In fact, a lot of people are now advocating for donating MORE to save Sam's ass. We're reaching only-fans-simp level of cuckoldry here.
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As you are clearly an expert in deploying live stream platforms with tens of thousands of viewers, I agree with this genius take. Please tell us what he really SHOULD have done with your years of expertise.
 
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It’s a real amateur hour on the tech side. Anything we say about what is costing them so much is pure speculation really without much insight into their architecture. I would expect live streaming 9 video feeds to 60k viewers (I think Sam said that was their viewer count at one point) to be fucking expensive but there’s a high chance there are ways they’re being absolutely retarded too.

If I were them I would start at the bill breakdown and figure out which services are the biggest cost centers. There’s probably one thing dominating the bill, and if it’s not the bandwidth then they’re lucky in a way because they would have plenty of low hanging fruit for cost savings. But also unlucky because it was built in a retarded way in the first place.

There are several suggestions in this thread which would help for sure but they’re mostly way too complicated to build. They’re in an ongoing emergency. There is no way they can implement new optimizations, even if they would be simple in normal circumstances. Again, if it’s not a bandwidth issue the best thing they can do immediately is to disable all the expensive features until costs are manageable and get the show on the road. Sam should have warned his bank about large sudden charges, but sounds like they had no idea how expensive it would be or how to estimate costs anyway.

I want to see the rest of the 6 weeks play out, so I hope they pull through. But thank god I’m not in their shoes right now because it’s def not a fun time.
 
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SFINAE said:
As you are clearly an expert in deploying live stream platforms with tens of thousands of viewers, I agree with this genius take. Please tell us what he really SHOULD have done with your years of expertise.
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Are you really trying to use this "you can't criticize someone unless you work in the same field" garbage to defend your based groomer sociopath daddy? Do I need to have experience in live streaming platform management to know that you shouldn't sign contracts worth hundreds of thousands of dollars without reading them too?
 
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Gauf said:
It’s a real amateur hour on the tech side. Anything we say about what is costing them so much is pure speculation really without much insight into their architecture. I would expect live streaming 9 video feeds to 60k viewers (I think Sam said that was their viewer count at one point) to be fucking expensive but there’s a high chance there are ways they’re being absolutely retarded too.
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The livestreaming isn't the expensive part, a Cloudfront distribution can pump a TB of data for $85 which is peanuts (the streams weren't even HD). The processing costs are also tiny because they're processing 10 video streams which you can do with two desktop computers from 2015. The reason their GCloud account got suspended is because Firebase is a pure Jewish ploy which makes you pay per request and it's really easy to get yourself into a N+1 query situation. They sent thousands of queries just to update the live viewer count per viewer (if you're paying attention, that's n^2 queries) which ballooned the Firebase cost. Paying the GCloud bill and bringing the chat down temporarily to fix this issue will get the site up right now.
 
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Bitchnado said:
Do I need to have experience in live streaming platform management to know that you shouldn't sign contracts worth hundreds of thousands of dollars without reading them too?
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You need to know the basics of how GCloud billing works before running your dicksucker, yes. GCloud is pay as you go, you don't pay upfront (you can do upfront payments for things like VM instances, but you have to explicitly do that). They charge you either every 30 days or once you hit $30k (whichever is sooner), which is what happened in this case. This is why cloud is often considered super expensive because you get hit with a bill after-the-fact.
 
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Exceptional individualist said:
I refuse to believe that Sam huddle and ohs team screwed the pooch this bad.
How do you confuse cost per month with cost per day?
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Because if it's like how @SFINAE says it works, he got punked for not having someone who actually knows how this shit works. So it LOOKED like it'd cost 30k per month to a layman and they got fucked taking a leap of faith.
 
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