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You cited research/surgeries that were trialed on women...>posts relevant research addressing neurological differences in troons
>its irrelevant
seethe
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You cited research/surgeries that were trialed on women...>posts relevant research addressing neurological differences in troons
>its irrelevant
seethe
they are "built differently in that area" as a consequence of puberty and this would not be the issueBasically, both sexes are built differently in that area. An woman's chest naturally has some cleavage because they have an "harness" of connective tissues or muscles that's kind of molding them into an certain shape. Guys don't have stuff like this, so they just grow and hang in opposite directions.
idk why you went to implants either, or where this even came into the conversation at all - it stretches out the skin in cis women too lolAn mtf getting implants usually looks terrible within an bikini because it's looks like it was glued on there and it's usually stretching out the skin; an natal woman's would probably be just an noticeable increase in volume while mostly retaining the original shape
sorry i cant afford that yetUntil you cut your dick off you're just a poser.
you shouldnt be able to diagnose an illness in a 10 year old because they "dont know anything in life"? okAlso, long or not, a 10 year old has no clue about anything in life, this should not be a thing.
denying the existence of a medical condition and the only treatment for it is the very opposite of love and care, sadlyBecause they love you and care about you, that's why they don't want to pump you full of hormones and ruin your body.
where they used skin grafts from the leg/thigh, which is considerably worse/harder for the body to transform than mucosal lining as used in ppt, or even reusing the penile skinYou cited research/surgeries that were trialed on women...
Correct, and since maleness isn't an illness, your statement that you can't get pregnant because you have an illness was incorrect.i cant get pregnant because i am male,
Nobody asked. Nobody cares if you're okay with your maleness. The question you were asked was "why can't you get pregnant" and your answer to that question was both dishonest and offensive to real women. Trying to forge this connection between yourself and infertile women is completely dishonest. You could have biological children if you wanted to; gender dysphoria is a disorder of the mind, not of the reproductive system. Actual infertile women can't have their own children, and that's devastating for many of them.if i didnt have transsexualism i would be okay with that!
One should be extremely skeptical of diagnosing prepubescent children with mental issues which could be just a phase.you shouldnt be able to diagnose an illness in a 10 year old because they "dont know anything in life"? ok
Do you have any proper evidence about the only treatment actually being the ONLY treatment?denying the existence of a medical condition and the only treatment for it is the very opposite of love and care, sadly
i cant get pregnant because i am male, but that being a problem only comes from transsexualismCorrect, and since maleness isn't an illness, your statement that you can't get pregnant because you have an illness was incorrect.
average autistyour answer to that question was both dishonest and offensive to real women.
not anymore tbhYou could have biological children if you wanted to
nopesexually healthy
seetheunambiguous man
thats why you wait until puberty to start any treatment - 66% of kids diagnosed as prepubescents desistOne should be extremely skeptical of diagnosing prepubescent children with mental issues which could be just a phase.
...like what? the fact that psychotherapy hasnt worked (with exceptions for some agps and females with internalized misogyny)?Do you have any proper evidence about the only treatment actually being the ONLY treatment?
prove what? a universal fact?Like any long term studies that prove it?
this is like saying we need a study to prove the moon is roundYou don't because there isn't any study like that.
You not getting pregnant isn't a problem. The fact that you will never get pregnant is normal, natural, and healthy, because you're male, and males don't get pregnant.i cant get pregnant because i am male, but that being a problem only comes from transsexualism
The only reason your genitals and gonads are broken is because of your own choices. You are not a woman with an illness. Your situation is nothing like an infertile woman's. Cope harder, sir.nope
i dont - i want to have bio kids with the man i love, which i cannot do without being able to get pregnant. i dont understand how you dont get thisThe fact that you want to get pregnant is the disease.
nor would iMost women don't look forward to pregnancy
nopeWhich again, you could have if you wanted to.
English is my third language, after my mother tongue and norwegian; I use punctuation when I feel like it's worth it to put in the extra effort, usually when the person I'm talking to isn't telling me to go kill myself/calling me a delusional man/whatever (which most people here are doing).Why do you never use capitalization or punctuation? It makes you look lazy at best and uneducated at worst. I might give you a pass if English was your third language but you type like a native speaker (minus the lack of capitalization and punctuation).
Because I think this forum is funny.And why post here, in a place where almost universally the entire forum is against transitioning for a variety of reasons?
Because they all support autistic, fetishistic groomers. I tried interacting with the tranny community online, and the tranny community locally - they are all fucking insane, and should be gassed.Why not post on Reddit, Twitter, or any of the various left-leaning forums out there?
You're jumping all over the place and acting like I'm the dumb one here, kek.i dont - i want to have bio kids with the man i love, which i cannot do without being able to get pregnant. i dont understand how you dont get this
Your fault--you're the one who knowingly and willingly ruined your own fertility. You have no idea what it's like to be an infertile woman because you aren't either of those things.nope
yes - because youre coming up with things that ive never said - like claiming i "want to get pregnant" for the sake of getting pregnant, when in reality i just want to have bio kids lolYou're jumping all over the place and acting like I'm the dumb one here, kek.
only if you claim that transsexualism is somehow treatable by making a patients brain conform with their bodywas incorrect
see aboveIllness isn't keeping you from pregnancy, your maleness is, and maleness isn't a disease.
its very relevant, because you are creating straw men, and i dont think thats very niceIt's not that I don't get it, it's that I don't care because it's irrelevant.
first you claim that i "ruined my fertility" (not really, but I wouldn't father a child even if I still could, because I'm not a man), but then you claim I'm not infertile? which is it? fuckin autists i swearYour fault--you're the one who knowingly and willingly ruined your own fertility. You have no idea what it's like to be an infertile woman because you aren't either of those things.
Serious question: have you ever considered getting IVF before you get your dick and nuts chopped off? Granted, the kid will only be half yours (in the fact that your lover's dna would be absent), but it will share your genetics nonetheless. You can get one and your man can get onewhen in reality i just want to have bio kids lol
I don't know or care how transsexualism is treatable, but whatever the correct treatment is, it's a disorder of brain and not the reproductive system. There is no illness whatsoever that is keeping you from having biological children.only if you claim that transsexualism is somehow treatable by making a patients brain conform with their body
So are you infertile or not? If your sperm is able to get a woman pregnant, you're not infertile and you can still have biological kids, unlike real infertile women. I don't see the issue. Being mad at reality isn't a fertility disorder.first you claim that i "ruined my fertility" (not really,
im guessing you mean IVF as in surrogacy? then no, because i think surrogacy is immoral, and even if i didnt, i dont think a father of any sort can be a woman. trannies having kids before (or even after, jesus) transitioning are just agp/aap lmaoSerious question: have you ever considered getting IVF before you get your dick and nuts chopped off? Granted, the kid will only be half your couple's, but it will share your genetics nonetheless. You can get one and your gay lover can get one
besides transsexualismThere is no illness whatsoever that is keeping you from having biological children.
i currently do not produce any viable sperm cells - and i do not know if i could, if i went off hrt and even tried taking clomid. the success with that has only been observed in late transitioners, as far as i know, i dont know if itd apply to me. can you address the actual question? if im infertile, how am i not infertile (lol)So are you infertile or not?
see above, im never going to father a child anyway, and i most definitely do not produce any viable sperm cells. there is a pretty decent possibility that medical technology will advance enough to sufficiently unfuck my body, however.It doesn't matter if you want to have bio kids the way a woman can, you're never going to be able to be pregnant, ever. You'll probably end up renting some poor women's womb, so better freeze some sperm.
Other trannies get women pregnant, idk why you think being a man who doesn't like his dick is somehow preventing you from having kids.besides transsexualism
If there's a chance you could produce sperm again if you went off HRT, then you're not infertile lmfao. Infertile people can't have kids no matter what they do. If it turns out that going off HRT still doesn't bring your sperm back, then yeah, you ruined your fertility--not because of any fertility illness, but because of your choices and actions. If a woman ties her tubes and then regrets it later on, is she a woman with the illness of infertility, or is she just a retard?i currently do not produce any viable sperm cells - and i do not know if i could, if i went off hrt and even tried taking clomid. the success with that has only been observed in late transitioners, as far as i know, i dont know if itd apply to me.
See above--making elective choices that ruin your fertility with no other outcome isn't infertility, and no support group for infertile women would ever accept you as one of them.can you address the actual question? if im infertile, how am i not infertile (lol)