Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

[Scream Tail]

It's not all positive. From my experience, that's a recipe for an Atlas Child will all sorts of emotional issues when they grow up. I wouldn't be surprised if the healthy one has a really hard time even identifying her own needs.

I don't wanna get too PLy but I do think it's a bit of a healthier situation than a lot of this thread's subjects siblings will experience.

Disabled twin (not a potato) is in full time care and the healthy one took on the legal responsibilities (guardian role?) when they were in their 50s, after their parents started health started declining (they were her carers for 50+ years at home and had to be really nagged to get her into a care facility). They did get her to talk to a therapist and consult her husband and adult children before signing guardianship over to her.

Not saying there aren't any issues there but I don't see many ways the outcome or process could've been improved in their particular situation.

 

[TismFarmer]

A Family I know has 6 children, a mix of half and full siblings, all of them are neuro diverse and the next generation consists of one profoundly autistic and one suspected but still too young to be sure.
The parent that links all of these children wants to get full genome testing to see if their neurological issues (and some physical problems) could be caused by a genetic fault.
The other spouse doesn't want them to in case they feel responsible for the generational heartache and financial ruin that these isuues have caused.
3 of the original children are already grown and have not pursued genetic testing for themselves, even though 2 have already had children with known or suspected autism and the other has decided not to have biological children of their own. It's a sad situation and that is only taking future reproduction into account. When you add Survivors Guilt/Atlas Child mind fuckery into the mix it just gets even more complicated...

 

[Android raptor]

It's petty but I wish my sibling felt some guilt tbh, instead of just resentment and gladly partaking in scapegoating and bullying me at the encouragement of narcmom growing up.

To this day I rarely speak to any of my biological family, and don't really trust them (especially not with many of them still in communication with nmom).

That said I realize I'm pretty lucky since I've been able to get the fuck away from them, lots of disabled kids with fucked up families don't have that luxury

 

[AnOminous]

The other spouse doesn't want them to in case they feel responsible for the generational heartache and financial ruin that these isuues have caused.

This kind of ostrich mentality really pisses me off. Like driving blindfolded because you're more afraid of seeing a truck coming at you than actually being hit by it. The genetic test could even suggest treatment options with better outcomes.

This really pisses me off when people reproduce like morons despite knowing they could have some disease that causes an absolutely horrifying death, like Huntington's.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

the next generation consists of one profoundly autistic and one suspected but still too young to be sure.

This is why the support Canada opening up it's euthanasia laws to minors. I know they have tried to take it too far by allowing pretty much any disease and mental illness to be eligible but severe autism should be considered a severe, life limiting disability. It doesn't seem like they are even happy most of the time, they are constantly melting down/overstimulated. The family should be allowed to euthanize the tard kids until they get a mild one they can keep and not ruin their lives over.

This really pisses me off when people reproduce like morons despite knowing they could have some disease that causes an absolutely horrifying death, like Huntington's.

I remember reading someone, I think on reddit talking about how Huntington's runs in their family and their sister or cousin or something knew but just kept slutting it up and producing more doomed offspring. At least older parents with it had no way of knowing they passed on such a terrible thing. The woman would make excuses such as "it's not a big deal, I'm sure there will be lots of great treatments by that time."

 

[Android raptor]

This is why the support Canada opening up it's euthanasia laws to minors. I know they have tried to take it too far by allowing pretty much any disease and mental illness to be eligible but severe autism should be considered a severe, life limiting disability. It doesn't seem like they are even happy most of the time, they are constantly melting down/overstimulated. The family should be allowed to euthanize the tard kids until they get a mild one they can keep and not ruin their lives over.

Nah, though family members who make their disabled kids constantly miserable and overstimulated should be euthananised.

 

[GenociderSyo]

 

[Trombonista]

She sure doesn't look happy.

 

[General Disarray]

She's like the Grumpy Cat of the tardbabies.

 

[booklover]

This is why the support Canada opening up it's euthanasia laws to minors. I know they have tried to take it too far by allowing pretty much any disease and mental illness to be eligible but severe autism should be considered a severe, life limiting disability. It doesn't seem like they are even happy most of the time, they are constantly melting down/overstimulated. The family should be allowed to euthanize the tard kids until they get a mild one they can keep and not ruin their lives over.

I remember reading someone, I think on reddit talking about how Huntington's runs in their family and their sister or cousin or something knew but just kept slutting it up and producing more doomed offspring. At least older parents with it had no way of knowing they passed on such a terrible thing. The woman would make excuses such as "it's not a big deal, I'm sure there will be lots of great treatments by that time."

I'm going to respectfully disagree, because ethical active euthanasia has to require the person's informed consent, and a tard or potato can't give it.

This is NOT the same as not doing XYZ life-extending (but not life-enhancing) care, which happens all the time.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I'm going to respectfully disagree, because ethical active euthanasia has to require the person's informed consent, and a tard or potato can't give it.

Fair enough, that leaves out dementia though bc by the time the person is sick they can't consent. Yet many people support it being an option for people with dementia. I think it would be safe to at least allow braindead minors like the Hartleys to have this option. Disability itself is a more controversial topic bc of degrees of disability but we at least should acknowledge ppl with profound disabilities and reduced consciousness do not have quality of life and that includes children.

This is NOT the same as not doing XYZ life-extending (but not life-enhancing) care, which happens all the time.

I support everyone having access to hospice care. But it's not an alternative in every situation. Don't want to sperg OT though. I wish these selfish potato parents would consider hospice. Luna would have been relieved of the burden of her body a lot sooner if that was the case.
Paisley should be taken off the vent, given pain meds and allowed to pass peacefully. We could never understand the likely profound discomfort she suffers daily.
Not helped by her white trash mum depriving her of oxygen by messing with the vent...

 

[Android raptor]

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At least they did something about her cradle cap, unlike Globyn.

Plus her faces continue to be A+

 

[The Cunting Death]

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That's a face that says "is this nigga serious?"

 

[Quack_Quack]

Does Paisley have more usable brain matter then, say, Luna?

I know it's not hard but she does seem to be more expressive.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

I'm going to respectfully disagree, because ethical active euthanasia has to require the person's informed consent, and a tard or potato can't give it.

This is NOT the same as not doing XYZ life-extending (but not life-enhancing) care, which happens all the time.

I worked four over four years at a day program for adults with alz/dementia. I have seen early onset, dementia from Down Syndrome, Lewy Body dementia, Bensons Syndrome, vascular dementia, frontal temporal dementia, etc.

Early stage dementia can be a reason for euthanasia, but only other countries. It's just the US that is weird about it.

https://agsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/jgs.17707

If I have it, I'm taking myself out. I'd rather die with some of myself intact rather than let my family watch as I either away into a shell of my former self and become an expensive burden, requiring 24/7 care until I die.

 

[BunchofMunch]

Does Paisley have more usable brain matter then, say, Luna?

I know it's not hard but she does seem to be more expressive.

As far as I've understood, yes, Paisley is just severely retarded but Luna have more cysts than brain at this point. It's been discussed in the thread that Paisley could possibly learn some (extremely simple) signs to communicate somewhat (if her parents could be arsed to put in the effort), while Luna have all the gadgets (including the eye gaze communication thingy) but are obviously not able to use them on any level.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm going to respectfully disagree, because ethical active euthanasia has to require the person's informed consent, and a tard or potato can't give it.

I am also increasingly suspicious of the whole concept of "informed consent," because as we have seen in the troon realm, such so-called "informed" consent is only acquired after intense brainwashing of the victim. The government should in no way, ever, be even remotely involved in the decision of people to terminate their lives.

 

[GenociderSyo]

I am also increasingly suspicious of the whole concept of "informed consent," because as we have seen in the troon realm, such so-called "informed" consent is only acquired after intense brainwashing of the victim. The government should in no way, ever, be even remotely involved in the decision of people to terminate their lives.

There is no informed consent in troon land it was removed by being called gatekeeping. There USED to be informed consent and assessment but it was deemed transphobic.

 

[AnOminous]

There is no informed consent in troon land it was removed by being called gatekeeping. There USED to be informed consent and assessment but it was deemed transphobic.

They still call it that though.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I am also increasingly suspicious of the whole concept of "informed consent," because as we have seen in the troon realm, such so-called "informed" consent is only acquired after intense brainwashing of the victim. The government should in no way, ever, be even remotely involved in the decision of people to terminate their lives.

It just needs to be strictly controlled and only used for terminal illness, profound disability and dementias. I feel like we should honor the person's advance directive if they don't want to be kept "alive" with dementia or severe brain damage. It's not really a state you would want to live in. You are constantly in a state of fear and confusion. You will even lose the ability to use utensils and wipe your own ass.
There was an infamous case in the Netherlands where a woman with dementia fought the doctor trying to euthanize her by putting the meds in her coffee lol. He forced her to take them and people called it murder. People who opposed euthanasia saw this as her mind had changed on the subject and her current self did not want to die, despite her advance directive.
With what I know of dementia though, some of them are just violent so I would not ascribe logical thought processes to them like that. Logical thought is eventually completely destroyed while primitive, intuitive thought processes remain intact.