Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

If it would make you better, the United States military not once and but twice done something the Russians had never done once on the British Isles. That is Americans drank all of the English beer and liquor that wasn't locked down and consensually fucked their their women.
Was this in the UK? I seem to remember this was something that happened in Reykjavik Iceland during a NATO training exercise. Apparently they were all well behaved drunks too. Americans better then Russians in so many thing, including drinking. Sad!

 
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An ongoing reorientation of the central Asian states. They are putting up more political will for east-west infrastructure, much of this money comes from China, as a alternative route of transport. But, if they put in a proposed cross Caspian pipeline then Russia is on the outs as that would provide significantly more oil to Europe. It would also annoy China, who wants to be the single international bidder for energy in the area.

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Medvedev claims Russia can economical escalate more than the West. In this case, some leaks in the Japanese press claimed that the G7 was considering a whitelist rather than black list sanctions. In other words, items are presumably banned from being exported to Russia with some exceptions clearly marked out. Medvedev stated that Russia can commit to export bans as well, like banning Ukrainian grain exports :story:. The last time Russia tried messing with the the Grain Deal the Turks said they would send their own flagged ships and for Russia to pound sand. Russia promptly re-upped.


Another big win for China. They will be scaling up production and refining their processes, and it'll paid for (and QC performed in the field) by Russia.
Not sure about that. There's plenty of demand for ball bearings for industrial applications otherwise. Perfectly round, extremely hard things are just hard to make.
 
Was this in the UK? I seem to remember this was something that happened in Reykjavik Iceland during a NATO training exercise. Apparently they were all well behaved drunks too. Americans better then Russians in so many thing, including drinking. Sad!

World War One and World War Two were the two times a very large American military presence in Great Britain. Both times it was the gathering point before being shipped off to Europe. Much to the annoyance of the big brass commanding officers and the no fun allowed commisars provost officers i.e. military police.
 
Not sure about that. There's plenty of demand for ball bearings for industrial applications otherwise. Perfectly round, extremely hard things are just hard to make.

Yes and no.
tl;dr for heavy industrial applications you need to absolute and complete faith in your bearing supplier. You need to trust them so much you can leave them alone in your house with your drunk, horny nudist college-sophmore daughter and it never even enter your head anything will happen.
For shit like drawer pulls, fidget spinners, and knives, good enough is good enough.

The reason why is you need to think very hard about what happens when those bearings fail. If the bearings seize on drawer, or knife, you just toss them. If they fail on a more expensive part you can usually just replace/service the bearings. When you are dealing with things were individual assemblies weigh more than a ton, the bearings are usually integral to the part and the whole assembly needs replaced. The BEST case is your expensive asset is down while the expensive part is completely replaced. The worst case is your expensive, heavy asset is half way across the county and now has fragments of expensive part embedded in other expensive parts.
You cannot do your own QC as in modern applications you aren't just buying balls of steel but sealed bearings - so you need to have complete, blind trust. (For good-enough bearings you can also usually just do extreme RPM tests on a few samples and measure their temperature, and they are cheap enough melting down 1 of a thousand isn't going to hit your bottom line very hard. You usually aren't ordered enough industrial bearings, and the bearing expensive enough, for that to be viable)

There is a lot of factors that go into this: You need to have good steel to source, you need to have high-precision machines, and you need to have good and robust QC, and you need to know the corporate entity won't vanish on you into state-entity morass.

Thus China has good penetration for "good enough" bearings, but no one is trusting the chinks with heavy industrial. Part of this is the liability part where all corporations are esscentially just subsidiaries of the CCP - so for there to be assurances of bearing performance they'd have to be backed by the full assets of the CCP - which they can't do. The alternative would be to allow fully independent corporations and AHHAHAHHAHAHHHHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHHAHA.
The other part is insectoids being garbage at QC, and constantly trying to screw over the buyer.

If Russia chooses China for new bearings, China will get to make large quantities of industrial bearings that will be field-tested for them. They can shake down their production and QC processes, as well as have a source of data to prove their product's quality. They will have a ready market/buyer for years and maybe longer to finance this, and can use that economy of scale to try to slide into other 2nd world markets.
 
Allegedly the hohols have been holding positions south of Kherson in the swamps on the east bank of the Dnieper for some time now, and allegedly in the last week they landed some troops and established positions on the east bank side of the Antonovksy Bridge, north of the town of Oleshky
 
Allegedly the hohols have been holding positions south of Kherson in the swamps on the east bank of the Dnieper for some time now, and allegedly in the last week they landed some troops and established positions on the east bank side of the Antonovksy Bridge, north of the town of Oleshky
The Russians claim that the Ukrainians have been there for several weeks and have established supply lines across the Dnieper. In an analysis from November, Oleshky seemed to be somewhat fortified, with troops inside the town itself and in nearby settlements. Many of those troops have probably been redeployed to the Battle of Bakhmut Central Station's Toilet, but the fortification efforts in the Kherson region should have continued... right?

To allow the Ukrainians to establish positions across the Dnieper before the announced Ukrainian offensive to cut the landbridge to Crimea and Kherson seems like a big blunder. If the Ukrainian offensive is successful, the Kherson troops would be trapped, but even if the offensive is only partially successful, it will affect morale. We already saw how, when Ukraine attacked in the Izium area during the Kharkiv offensive, Russian units fled because they feared encirclement. When the Zaporizhzhia front is prioritized during the offensive, that could perhaps even create a false impression for the Kherson garrisons that things are more precarious than they actually are.

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The Russians claim that the Ukrainians have been there for several weeks and have established supply lines across the Dnieper. In an analysis from November, Oleshky seemed to be somewhat fortified, with troops inside the town itself and in nearby settlements. Many of those troops have probably been redeployed to the Battle of Bakhmut Central Station's Toilet, but the fortification efforts in the Kherson region should have continued... right?

To allow the Ukrainians to establish positions across the Dnieper before the announced Ukrainian offensive to cut the landbridge to Crimea and Kherson seems like a big blunder. If the Ukrainian offensive is successful, the Kherson troops would be trapped, but even if the offensive is only partially successful, it will affect morale. We already saw how, when Ukraine attacked in the Izium area during the Kharkiv offensive, Russian units fled because they feared encirclement. When the Zaporizhzhia front is prioritized during the offensive, that could perhaps even create a false impression for the Kherson garrisons that things are more precarious than they actually are.

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all you see in the video is a little rubber boat with like 5 or 6 guys. thats not "establish positions across the river", at most it's "send a few guys behind enemy lines to scout enemy positions and gather intel"
 
The last time Russia tried messing with the the Grain Deal the Turks said they would send their own flagged ships and for Russia to pound sand. Russia promptly re-upped.
With good reason. Ukraine is the bread basket of the middle east. All those Arab states, including ones that Turkey backs for influence and patronage have a critical reliance on Ukrainian grain to pay for the highly subsidized bread. The one thing guaranteed to start a riot in Egypt is raising the price of a loaf of bread at the state funded Bakeries. If the grain doesn't flow from Odessa to Cairo, Damascus and Tripoli, things go sideways across the Arab world, really quickly.

So this wasn't just a case of Turkey dick waving for plaudits and ass pats from the West. Russia's Grain blockade was one step removed from an existential danger to the entire region Turkey sits in.
 
With good reason. Ukraine is the bread basket of the middle east. All those Arab states, including ones that Turkey backs for influence and patronage have a critical reliance on Ukrainian grain to pay for the highly subsidized bread. The one thing guaranteed to start a riot in Egypt is raising the price of a loaf of bread at the state funded Bakeries. If the grain doesn't flow from Odessa to Cairo, Damascus and Tripoli, things go sideways across the Arab world, really quickly.
This. The entire Arab world is a house of cards whose foundation is the complete Western lack of balls to just fucking take their oil at gunpoint. They can't organize or invent for shit as a whole but their leaders know this better than the Quran and I'd wager the highest-ups are making sure they have a fast plane on standby if the grain supply dries up..

Food riots in Arab nations will not involve signs and rocks and TikTok videos, they will involve RPG's and AK-47's carried by people who are willing to use them.
 
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Yevgeny Prigozhin announces that Wagner will no longer take POWs:
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Source: From a Russian-language Telegram channel (translated using Firefox Translations).
Is being a fucking retard a requirement for military command in the Russian Federation? I am starting to realize why General Surovikin always seemed to look so fucking tired of life all the time if idiot political monkey's like Prigozhin are who he has to deal with on the daily.

This is so stupid on a number of levels.

First of all, you CAN be that asshole and not take POW's. You can even verbally pass down the chain to your subordinates not to take POW's. You don't come out and publicly proclaim for the world that you are not going to take POW's. Christ almighty, this is Crime 101. The Godfather doesn't give the order to get someone whacked. He complains about how annoying someone is, and one of the flunkies gives the order. Always in cash. Never in writing. Instead, Prigozhin just said "look at me, doing criminal things! Look! Look everybody! This is me telling my subordinates to go do crimes!" This alone is going to get his ass a war crimes charge. Never mind all the other stuff he's been accused of. All of that could be "many such stories, why you believe western lies lol?" This they can actually pin on him. ffs.

Second of all, Wagner PMC was already in the grey area, being "technically" illegal combatants in Ukraine as Mercenaries, even though they do act under of the orders of the Russian state for all intents and purposes. Ukraine extending Wagner soldiers POW rights is more professional courtesy based on professional reciprocity for Ukrainians who might find themselves captured by Wagner. But if Wagner is just gonna be criminal, and do crimes, like shooting Ukrainian POW's, then Ukraine is under no obligation to refrain from shooting Wagner soldiers out of hand either.

It's so mind numbingly self defeating. Its like Prigozhin does not realize he's not in Prison anymore and maybe all the chest thumping to prevent the rival gang raping your booty hole is not necessary in War, and in fact probably counter productive.

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The way Russia is fighting this war is exemplary.

Their doctrine is focused on parachuting men deep in enemy territory, a strategy military schools in the West teach is obsolete. They have been proven wrong.

The Russians could turn Kharkiv into a crater with their artillery tomorrow, yet they are refusing to engage in area bombing in order to spare civilians. They are being precise, patient and methodical.

Compare this to the US in Iraq, who indiscriminately leveled Iraqi cities and slaughtered untold numbers of innocents.

The speed with which the Russian forces are taking territory is unprecedented. This will be studied by future military schools like we study the blitzkrieg or the battle of Inchon today.
 
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