Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Ah, I mean that is the sort of image it conjures to be fair. Anyway, they know now.


Russia is handling this war like a professional boxer. Pacing themselves, rarely over-extending (the initial failed Kiev gamble being the biggest one, Kherson the second). I mean the vast majority of the fighting has even been in the territories they're seeking to liberate - the Zelensky forces are mostly coming to them. It's hard to say without seeing casualty figures, but it feels like Russia is letting Zelenksy and the NATOvites exhaust themselves quickly, whilst Russia is still ready for round 5 to start.
That is because Russia is pretty constrained on finances and resources, they can’t just print hundreds of billions of dollars and force all their allies to deplete their own weaponry. That is a card America can only pull once and they choose to use it here. You’re right, they’re pacing themselves for a long war and NATO has never had a strategy beyond the total war/shock and awe. I was going to say it works in camel country but it doesn’t, as we see with Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Iran. America losing Saudi Arabia as an ally means they’re going to be even less effective with this strategy.
 
Legitimately the only reason Putin is in power and Russia despises the West is because the West and these boomer cunts decided to treat Russia like they're treating Ukraine now, a nation to exploit for resources and punish for being an enemy. This is the biggest mess the boomers have created and we're all going to suffer for their fantasies.

Fuck boomers. Total Boomer Death.
I mentioned this in the US Politics thread.

But how is a treasonous traitor and snitch like Mark Milley still in charge of the US military.

The man was in communication with the Chinese military without approval and willing to give them advance notice.

Would the average Russian pleb tolerate Shiogu giving away plans of future Russian offensives to Uncle Sam without approval.
 
I mentioned this in the US Politics thread.

But how is a treasonous traitor and snitch like Mark Milley still in charge of the US military.

The man was in communication with the Chinese military without approval and willing to give them advance notice.

Would the average Russian pleb tolerate Shiogu giving away plans of future Russian offensives to Uncle Sam without approval.
Collaborating with Communists to stop Trump isn't viewed as treason by American authorities.
 
The Reddit thread is hungrily swallowing Ukrops bait regarding a crossing of the Dnieper from Kherson and the imminent taking of Crimea.


Five (former) guys in a boat. Something something peremoga, something zrada.

In other news withered EU shill Borrell says European navies should patrol the Taiwan Straits (archive), which will surely elicit the desired results from China, and not angry recitations of Europe's past interventions, such as Britain's Opium Wars or other events from the Century of Humiliation.
 
Eu navies? That is like UK and France. Lets face it, the rest ain't have much do they. Maybe Spain and Pastaland.
All the heavy lifting will be done by the US, this is more like the "Coalition of the Willing" thing neocons conjured up for the invasion of Iraq. A few token ships so the yuros can get participation trophies and go home.
 
The upcoming Ukrainian offensive


On one side will be around 35,000 Ukrainian soldiers, bolstered by western battle tanks. They will face more than 140,000 enemy troops along a 950km frontline. Separating the two forces will be a deadly obstacle course of mines, earthworks and tank-stopping bollards set by the Russians.

Out numbered 3:1 against a dug in enemy with vast artillery superiority and no air support, what could possibly go wrong?

How will they overcome the multi layered Russian defences? They'll do the thing to the thing. How will they stop Russian bombers and missiles? Hope for the best.



Simon is a shitlib globalist shill who routinely calls for NATO boots on the ground, invasion and break up of the Russian Federation and the assassination of Putin. In other words he's the most slavering at the mouth warmonger writing at the Guardian. But some may note a slight change in tone


Amid huge destruction, big Russian losses, critical Ukrainian manpower, weapons and equipment shortages, and waning appetites for an endless war of attrition, Kyiv’s western backers begin to push for a negotiated ceasefire or “durable truce”, pending a longer-term settlement. China gets in on the act, too.

While maintaining its claim to four regions illegally annexed last year, Russia eventually agrees a conditional ceasefire. Vladimir Putin hails the “strategic neutralisation” of Ukraine. President Volodymyr Zelenskiy is obliged to temporarily postpone his drive to restore his country’s pre-2014 borders.

It's the most downbeat and pessimistic he's been. He knows the Ukraine is done and he knows the coming offensive is doomed to fail.

“As much as we’d all like to see the swift liberation of Ukrainian territory, a spring offensive [is] unlikely to make far-reaching gains,” Harvard’s Stephen Walt, another well-informed observer, concluded last week.

“I suspect most top officials in the Biden administration understand this cruel reality, whatever they may say in public,” Walt wrote. “Instead, they are hoping Ukraine’s armed forces do well enough to convince [Putin] to move toward a ceasefire and eventually negotiate a full peace agreement.”

Gloomy leaked Pentagon assessments of Ukraine’s prospects, and America’s election timetable, reinforce expectations of a US-backed shift towards talks this autumn. America’s top general, Mark Milley, says he does not expect Ukraine to succeed in expelling all Russian forces this year.

So if everyone knows the Ukraine offensive cannot succeed and will lead to disaster why the fuck is it happening? Don't know, apart from 'getting Putin to negotiate'.
 
So if everyone knows the Ukraine offensive cannot succeed and will lead to disaster why the fuck is it happening?
You may notice that it is not, in fact, happening. Zelensky postponed it again blaming y'all for not giving him enough gibs.

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The article is one month old but he keeps repeating the same shit like a broken record anyway.
 
A chub drone caught on some trees and crashed next to my house. Supposedly on the way to attack Elektrostal, 17 kilos of canuck explosives.
Береги себя, товарищ. К сожалению, я думаю, что они будут продолжать атаковать мирных жителей еще долгие годы после окончания спецоперации.
All the heavy lifting will be done by the US, this is more like the "Coalition of the Willing" thing neocons conjured up for the invasion of Iraq. A few token ships so the yuros can get participation trophies and go home.
It’s not about letting the EU vassals show they can help, but about showing China that when USA says jump, EU can only ask how high. Making your vassal demonstrate his obedience through symbolic acts is a very old playbook, and in this case the intimidation is directed to both the Chinese and the European bootlickers.
 
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big Russian losses, critical Ukrainian manpower, weapons and equipment shortages,
That's great doublespeak. Russia has huge losses. Ukraine only has "critical shortages" of fucking men and equipment.... I wonder what is causing that shortage....

Will the journos be taken out back and shot if they even mention Ukraine taking losses?
 
I just found out in the morning. I wasn't there, I've been in Moscow with the coof all week.
(It didn't explode.)
Did someone come to remove it or do you now just have a bunch of unexploded ordnance in your yard?
 

War footage - April 21-23, 2023​

Main highlight - Life in the Trenches​


Bakhmut goes through more rainstorms, giving a hellish WW1-vibe to Russian and Ukrainian soldiers that are sheltered within trenches around the O0506 Road. (April 23)

Archive: https://archive.ph/Jegzq

Bakhmut, Donetsk Oblast​


A brief account of Wagner PMC operators with Russian state-news outlet RT. (April 21)

Archive: https://archive.ph/wFP8t

Wagner PMC operators operate a Metis-M ATGM (or a Metis-M1) to destroy Ukrainian infantry that are holding inside a house in West Bakhmut. (April 21)

Archive: https://archive.ph/87PKv

Military correspondent Oleksandr Yaremchuk shows positions captured by Wagner PMC operators, including a local park (probably around Rose Alley) and the Bakhmut-2 railway station. (April 22)

Archive: https://archive.ph/rqp33

UAV footage of the O0506 road at Khromove, with craters and destroyed vehicles in the area. (April 22)

Archive: https://archive.ph/jO3UQ

A conversation with a Wagner PMC operator by Yaremchuk is interrupted by a grenade attack. (April 23)

Archive: https://archive.is/BBuuY

Bakhmut from afar. (April 23)

Archive: https://archive.ph/i4MqE

Combat filmed on Go-Pros on the Wagner PMC operator side. (April 23)

Archive: https://archive.is/WODbx

Seversk, Donetsk Oblast​


Russian artillery shell a Ukrainian machine gun position. (April 23)

Archive: https://archive.ph/0VKh7

Andiivka, Donetsk Oblast​


Donetsk infantry (formerly militia of the DPR) of the Russian Armed Forces operate kamikaze drones. (April 22)

Archive: https://archive.ph/70A93

Russian special forces shell a Ukrainian detachment with artillery. (April 23)

Archive: https://archive.ph/lCnHp

Kreminna, Luhansk Oblast​


A tank belonging to VDV paratroopers fire at Ukrainian positions in the forest. (April 21)

Archive: https://archive.ph/PWt88

Ivanovo paratroopers (VDV?) capture some Ukrainian positions (no location was given, but I assumed to be Kreminna due to the forests). (April 21)

Archive: https://archive.ph/Zq9zU

A Russian Lancet destroys a Ukrainian Msta-B howitzer. (April 23)

Archive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/152_mm_howitzer_2A65_Msta-B

Kharkiv Oblast​

The Russians bomb fuel and equipment depots in Kharkiv, causing an explosion. (April 22)

Archive: https://archive.ph/9ZcQU

Near Kupyansk, Russian mortars shell Ukrainian soldiers making another trench.

Archive: https://archive.ph/hZEQ9

Russian mortars blow a Ukrainian soldier into the air, literally.

Archive: https://archive.ph/FF82K

Volyn Oblast​


Snipers and infantry of the 24th special forces brigade of the RF Armed Forces ambush the reconnaissance group of the 100th Ukrainian territorial defense brigade, killing most except one, of whom he was interrogated. (April 22)
Archive: https://archive.ph/p41Y0

Unknown location​


Destroyed Polish Krab artillery operated by the Armed Forces of Ukraine. (April 22)

Archive: https://archive.ph/YPHrc
 
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