Trainwreck The Empathic Nutritionist / Empathic Mamahood / Robyn Grogitsky-Ramirez / Luna Elva Ramirez / Glenn Ramirez / Atlas Glenn Standford Ramirez - Eyefucking Sociopath Selfie Addict Mother and Closeted Gymrat Pothead Father who use Instagram to Parade their Homemade Homunculus Tard Baby Created by their Refusal to Follow any Medical Oversights

Will Robyn actually go back to see the neurosurgeon in California?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 107 50.2%
  • Luna will die before the planned trip date

    Votes: 80 37.6%

  • Total voters
    213
  • Poll closed .
Considering how close Loki has been allowed to get to Atlas, it's a matter of time before Luna gets domed. With how Robyn hasn't been disciplining him, it's not an "if," it's a "when."
We Kiwis love to predict these things, which logically would happen to anybody else. But remember, for some reason there is a layer of protection around cows that causes consequences to be delayed. It’s like retard-magic.

Luna shouldn’t even be alive at this point but her mom is a cow so she got that protection. So I don’t think the dog will hurt Luna.

I do think that unless Glenn has been hiding morning runs and bike rides he plans to take the dog on, Loki Bear will get bored and tear up the house, their walls, their furniture and maybe developing a barking problem that will make it harder for Robyn to sell her woo. But in true cow fashion, the only one hurt will be the dog.

As much as I’d like to see Luna’s end, a dog bite or injury, even accidental, would also probably be Loki’s end -and that would make me sad.

I also would not be surprised a bit if Robyn had an IQ in the 70-80 range. I’ve known a few people with low intelligence but they usually function fine and it isn’t obvious at first. But if you look at their life choices, such as getting a puppy with a toddler and disabled kid at home, or giving birth at home with no trained personnel, or believing in the power of rocks and the wonder of electrically charged water, it all makes sense.
 
Everything Globlyn is responsible for is damaged. Luna—enough said, Atlas—always looking sad and bored. That miscarried child—perhaps due to the fact she was breastfeeding Atlas? Her home is a disaster.

That dog (through no fault of its own) is going to become a barking, biting neighborhood hazard.

I wouldn’t trust her to babysit my pet rock.
 
Could be seizures or brain stem damage. The involuntary smiling gives it away. Seizures occur at different part of the brain than that, not saying it couldn’t be spasms from seizures. She absolutely has a reason to have seizures. Vegetables often smile like this and people think it’s voluntary and “they’re back”. it’s just cause your brain stem is totally fucked. Honestly, I’d probably want to live after some head injuries, we can survive a lot and be relatively fine. any injuries involving the brain stem or any of that very important stuff back there is my stopping point... Kill me. You do not come back from that. I’m amazed she has lived this long. I’d pay good money to see her MRI now or at time of death
Seizures can originate anywhere in the brain, and they can look like almost anything. Not all seizures are the "tonic-clonic", generalized convulsions that most people picture when they think about seizures. There's even a type called a gelastic seizure, which makes the patient appear to laugh or smile inappropriately. I've always thought they were the cruelest type, myself. Imagine that seeing your sweet, adorable baby laugh causes a pit of dread to form in your stomach. The movements Luna makes are textbook myoclonic seizure.

Usually, brain stem damage is swiftly fatal. Your brain stem controls a lot of your body's involuntary functions, and crucially, there's not much room back there for it to swell without crushing something vital.

Yeah I might be a childfree edgelord, but I have friends and acquaintances who have kids or would like them someday and that infantile spasms shit is scary AF. I'm admittedly still trying to wrap my head around how to tell if it's spasms vs. normal movement since some of the clips in the PSA that's been posted are so subtle. With Luna it's pretty easy since we know all her movements are seizures or reflex.

Pouring one out for poor Loki who's about to be as bored and understimulated as Atlas *sigh*
Generally, normal movements aren't as rhythmic or repetitive, and they usually stop if you place your hand on the baby's body. With infantile spasms, touching the baby doesn't stop the jerking. Infantile spasms also tend to cluster for several minutes, and the baby often appears upset or fussy afterward.

I agree, though, some of those videos are VERY subtle. In mice, the early stages of status epilepticus, before the seizure progresses to a generalized convulsion, are characterized by "freezing" behavior and sometimes twitching whiskers. It's subtle, but once you see it a few times, it's unmistakable and you can easily pick out the mice that are going to proceed to SE. I get the feeling that the same is true for parents who have the foresight to record their baby's infantile spasms. If you spend enough time around babies, you learn what is "normal" behavior for them individually. Even if an abnormal movements is subtle, it sticks out, especially since we eagerly watch babies to see them meet milestones.

Fortunately, though, infantile spasms are uncommon, and West syndrome is rare. Only one in a few thousand infants will develop IS, so it's likely that all of the babies you know will be okay.

As a general rule, though, if something a baby is doing doesn't seem "right", get video if you can and seek medical advice. Even if it's not your child, your intervention could be critical. Although most infants with IS will eventually be diagnosed with another form of epilepsy, it's critical to identify the seizures to minimize the damage they cause.
 
Robyn is not smart but she is definitely not in the intellectually disabled range. She’s probably low-average to average. She has poor critical reasoning skills, but that’s probably mostly driven by her personality disorder, which will compel her to bend facts to protect her ego.
I believe this is it. Perhaps her escapism isn't a way to cope with guilt but to protect the ego. I am starting to believe Ive been projecting my own way of thinking onto Robyn, but in fact, as others have pointed out, she's just a crappy person. Period.
She's probably always been low-key delusional and living in a parallel fantasy world (which is actually indicative of narcissism), but the failure with Luna has forced her to double down on the fantasies. It will be interesting to see where her delusions take her when Luna comes home to the great potato patch above.
 
Safe to assume they won’t be getting the pup vaccinated?
Can't wait til the puppy dies painfully of parvo aka the number 1 puppy killer. Some anti vaxers believe that the rabies vaccine for dogs causes "autism" in dogs and blame it on their untrained, under exercised dogs for being hyper and jumpy. 🙄
“Parvo,” also known as the canine parvovirus (CPV), might as well be called “the puppy killer.”

While this highly contagious virus can attack older dogs, it is unvaccinated puppies at most risk. Easily transmitted, environmentally stable parvo lives up to its infamous legend, infesting and tearing up a dog’s gastrointestinal system, often a death sentence.
 
Safe to assume they won’t be getting the pup vaccinated?
Also thoughts on giving a puppy a big weird fresh marrow bone to chew on? I’d always believed bones were verboten for puppies because of splinters and whatnot.
Eh, bones are fine for older dogs as long as they haven’t been cooked. Cooking is what makes them splinter easily. But giving them to puppies isn’t a great idea.

Can't wait til the puppy dies painfully of parvo aka the number 1 puppy killer. Some anti vaxers believe that the rabies vaccine for dogs causes "autism" in dogs and blame it on their untrained, under exercised dogs for being hyper and jumpy. 🙄

Yes, it’s really scary. Parvo is everywhere, you can quite literally track it inside on the bottom of your shoes (and I don’t mean just from stepping in dog shit either). Robyn will be damn lucky if nothing happens to that puppy due to her dumb decisions. I hope they get fined for not having a rabies tag.
 
Can't wait til the puppy dies painfully of parvo aka the number 1 puppy killer. Some anti vaxers believe that the rabies vaccine for dogs causes "autism" in dogs and blame it on their untrained, under exercised dogs for being hyper and jumpy. 🙄

I gotta say, my life was much better before I was aware that these people existed. Ah, me of ten minutes ago, you were so innocent.
 
I gotta say, my life was much better before I was aware that these people existed. Ah, me of ten minutes ago, you were so innocent.
It's literally a microcosm of the anti-vaccine movement as a whole. They are too historically illiterate to understand how deadly and tragic rabies is, plus taking the bullshit Wakefield autism conspiring crap and applying it to their furbabies.
Imagine being a vet these days and an anti-vaxer chimps out about how you're trying to give their baby autism and they don't believe you when you say there is no autism in dogs.
Parvo is a NIGHTMARE in puppies. It has a high fatality rate and the only treatment is supportive care like fluids. All that expensive care could be avoided if you just vaccinated your puppy...
She'd be fucking giving it allium poisoning like the last dog when it was dying of cancer, while it shits itself to death on the floor. Parvo causes intestinal distress in puppies btw and allium (onion, garlic etc) poisoning is bad for their tummy too. Allium also causes a type of anemia in dogs.
Ingestion of raw or concentrated forms of onions and garlic can result in Heinz body hemolytic anemia in cats, dogs, and food-producing animals.
Although Heinz bodies and methemoglobin levels increase within 24 hours of ingestion of Allium spp, clinical signs of anemia may take as long as several days to appear.
Treatment involves early decontamination, management of acute hemolytic anemia, and intravenous fluid therapy.
 
It's literally a microcosm of the anti-vaccine movement as a whole. They are too historically illiterate to understand how deadly and tragic rabies is, plus taking the bullshit Wakefield autism conspiring crap and applying it to their furbabies.
Imagine being a vet these days and an anti-vaxer chimps out about how you're trying to give their baby autism and they don't believe you when you say there is no autism in dogs.
Parvo is a NIGHTMARE in puppies. It has a high fatality rate and the only treatment is supportive care like fluids. All that expensive care could be avoided if you just vaccinated your puppy...
She'd be fucking giving it allium poisoning like the last dog when it was dying of cancer, while it shits itself to death on the floor. Parvo causes intestinal distress in puppies btw and allium (onion, garlic etc) poisoning is bad for their tummy too. Allium also causes a type of anemia in dogs.

Veterinarians have an inordinately high rate of suicide, among the highest of any profession. I guess it's obvious why.

I have two questions.

1. Has Globyn actually claimed that they don't plan to vaccinate "Loki Bear"?

2. Can we please give the unfortunate canine a nickname? Even typing "Loki Bear"* gives me a case of autism worse than the one I got from receiving routine childhood immunizations.**

*No offense intended to any of you who have a pet named Loki. I'm sure he is a very good boy and his name fits him just fine. ❤️

**This is a joke; there's no link between vaccinations and autism.
 
2. Can we please give the unfortunate canine a nickname? Even typing "Loki Bear"* gives me a case of autism worse than the one I got from receiving routine childhood immunizations
Petition to officially rename him Parvo Bear. Or Chewy, since Buna's fingers are gonna get gnawed off any day now....
 
1. Has Globyn actually claimed that they don't plan to vaccinate "Loki Bear"?
No, I'm not aware of any instance in this thread where she has actually said she won't vaccinate her dogs. I'm extrapolating off of the fact that she doesn't vaccinate her kids and some will take a similar approach with their pets.
Plus the fact that she kept her last dog alive with cancer while feeding him DIY "cancer fighting" food that I know had garlic, raw meat or organs and I think coconut oil as well, instead of mercifully giving him euthanasia or any science based cancer treatment. I can't remember now if she gave him CBD or not.
2. Can we please give the unfortunate canine a nickname? Even typing "Loki Bear"* gives me a case of autism worse than the one I got from receiving routine childhood immunizations.**
Baldur bc in Norse mythology he was associated with light, happiness and a new world where life is reborn in a world with less suffering. He is the one who will mercifully bring Luna to the Light.
Also, anything associated with light in general like Sunshine, Helios (opposite of Luna) will undo the misfortune of her birth by inadvertently leading to her death. Apollonios or Apollodorus for the god of light, Apollo.
 
They already pretty much seem to ignore the dog. It was begging Glenn for attention in one of his videos and he just walks over it.

Glenn IG:
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Veterinarians have an inordinately high rate of suicide, among the highest of any profession. I guess it's obvious why.

I have two questions.

1. Has Globyn actually claimed that they don't plan to vaccinate "Loki Bear"?

2. Can we please give the unfortunate canine a nickname? Even typing "Loki Bear"* gives me a case of autism worse than the one I got from receiving routine childhood immunizations.**

*No offense intended to any of you who have a pet named Loki. I'm sure he is a very good boy and his name fits him just fine. ❤️

**This is a joke; there's no link between vaccinations and autism.
Wait till you hear about the people who insist their cat/dog should be vegan. They absolutely cannot be.

Vets absolutely have high stress jobs. It isn’t the animals so much as they are just like a doctor would be about death. They like to do the right thing if something is fatal or has a poor prognosis. The problem is the clients. People skipping out on pay, refusing to do what the vet asked, animal abuse/neglect, etc.

I send my vet gifts after they’ve helped me deal with the loss of my pets because I felt terrible for them having to deal with me being all snotty and crying while my bunnies had to be euthanized. One for a fatal prognosis as he was in shock and dying on the way there, another for an incurable cns condition that was only getting worse, no quality of life. (Literally none. Couldn’t eat or drink or stand, all she did was roll). My only solace is both were elderly and had good lives and they weren’t in pain the last m,ent of their lives. I am choking up just thinking about it. But I couldn’t do it. I couldn’t be a vet and so I try to be as nice as possible to all the staff, not just the vets.
 
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