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[quaawaa]

I just looked up the Maverick... 54 inch box. 4.5 feet. And still nearly 17 feet long over-all. But luckily you can haul 5 people.

Maybe I'm sizeist, but this still seems poorly proportioned. Or maybe I just buy much more lumber, pipe and gravel than the average city dweller. Heck, I need to go get a couple pieces of 10' PVC pipe, not sure how you'd even haul in a bed like that, pipe rack or something so they can go over the cab. Or you're sticking out over 5 feet, maybe through the back window, but that's ghetto and only works for smaller stuff.

That's because you're not the target market:


The maverick is a car with a truck bed, but unlike the Australian ute, it is targeted at hipsters who will likely never use the bed. Crew cab is the right choice for this market.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

I just looked up the Maverick... 54 inch box. 4.5 feet. And still nearly 17 feet long over-all. But luckily you can haul 5 people.

Maybe I'm sizeist, but this still seems poorly proportioned. Or maybe I just buy much more lumber, pipe and gravel than the average city dweller. Heck, I need to go get a couple pieces of 10' PVC pipe, not sure how you'd even haul in a bed like that, pipe rack or something so they can go over the cab. Or you're sticking out over 5 feet, maybe through the back window, but that's ghetto and only works for smaller stuff.

Maverick is nice but it's more of a car turned truck not really for workman hauling duties. Sad there aren't many budget options for longer bed trucks. The most budget friendly alternatives are probably the Ford Ranger Supercab that has a box length of 72in and the Chevy Colorado whose box length is 61in, a whole foot shorter. Ranger Supercab starts at $27500 for the stripper trim. Most practical bed size can be found in the F150 XL trim which has the 8ft box option but that starts at $34000. Silverado with the 8ft box is even more at $40k starting price.

 

[Glowie Hunter Art Bell]

So I walked in on maverick slander and I just can't stand for it. For 2 reasons.

First off, the marketing for this thing and the way its used are not equal. I work with factories/jobsites/car dealers you name it, and these things are EVERYWHERE being used for their actual utility. Ladder racks and utility beds on these are super common. I've seen them with bed mounted tanks as well. They are all over some of the jobsites I deal with, hauling workers and tools. They are in fact, useful. Having a tried and true driveline along with a relatively low price tag has them selling to fleets Luke crazy. Ford has done something that needed to be done, which was bring the small truck back in utilitarian form. This thing comes with steelies, a ton of bed equipment options etc.

Second off.....Ford is selling a turbo awd mini truck, with an engine and driveline that already have extensive tuning support. They are literally reviving a near dead car culture segment of the market. Mavericks are already running 12 second 1/4s. How are we not more excited about this.

this is coming from someone whos had various trucks, and has a falcon ranchero (a good one, not a shit aussie falcon) the Maverick is absolutely a good thing and is useful

 

[teriyakiburns]

I just want a Comanche with the post-98 xj facelift styling. God has not smiled on me.

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Second off.....Ford is selling a turbo awd mini truck, with an engine and driveline that already have extensive tuning support. They are literally reviving a near dead car culture segment of the market. Mavericks are already running 12 second 1/4s. How are we not more excited about this.

this is coming from someone whos had various trucks, and has a falcon ranchero (a good one, not a shit aussie falcon) the Maverick is absolutely a good thing and is useful

It's not a bad car at all. It would be nice if they were in stock though. I went to a local Ford dealership which is a massive chain and they didn't have a single one to look at on the floor, let alone test drive. That was about 4 months ago so inventory might have caught up at last.

 

[DavidS877]

To further derail the thread, I also want my small pickup to be Diesel. Sadly my Canyon was the end of the line for US Small Diesels in new models. I need Diesel for one important reason, so I can pump my own fuel in Oregon.

 

[quaawaa]

Unsurprisingly, a lot of /r/fuckcars members are troons:




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[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Unsurprisingly, a lot of /r/fuckcars members are troons:

the venn diagram (van diagram?) of reddit users and troons is not even a circle, it's a fuckin' blackhole.

i still want a damn pickup or minivan where the front seats are kinda a bench setup so you can actually load plywood UNDER them. I might have to make a diagram or some shit. it's all I would need

 

[DavidS877]

the venn diagram (van diagram?) of reddit users and troons is not even a circle, it's a fuckin' blackhole.

i still want a damn pickup or minivan where the front seats are kinda a bench setup so you can actually load plywood UNDER them. I might have to make a diagram or some shit. it's all I would need

The new Chevy EV pickup has similar, but it's just the back seats. But yes that would make sense for long goods and sheet goods.

 

[MS Paint Gigachad]

Unsurprisingly, a lot of /r/fuckcars members are troons:
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If it was anything other than the ikea trans shark i'd've assumed it was mocking the "but you can fit 50 people in 2 busses instead of 33 cars" thing they keep bringing up, a la XKCD 2684: Road Space Comparison.

Fuck, it might even be mocking it anyway, using the ikea trans shark. Might even interpret it as "stop wasting your time sperging about roads and trains and shit, go enjoy a cuddly soft toy."

 

[WelperHelper99]

Unsurprisingly, a lot of /r/fuckcars members are troons:
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I'm not surprised since many Troons don't leave the house, also their insseant need to make everything about them

 

[jje100010001]

You can live in a dense apartment building and never even see your neighbors. They are just other people in the building who make loud noises behind the thin walls or you see sometimes in an elevator. In the suburbs, you see your next door neighbors constantly. If they are mowing the lawn, walking the dogs or even just relaxing outside on the porch, you will see them.

I dont know why urbanists try to paint the suburbs as isolated and lonely. You have a degree of privacy, but it isn't like you are totally alone for miles.

It really ultimately depends on the granularity of the urban fabric and its uses. Modernist-contemporary tower developments are often socially just vertical suburbs, but without the space or privacy.

I would argue that the large pickup, especially the ones that can seat four people saves a family from buying a second car.

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In the photo above, it looks like the driver has a tool chest in the bed so they might be a legitimate worker.

If he had a second row, then perhaps there would be no need to ride in the bed.

IMO, most families tend to want at least two cars for convenience (i.e. one of them is at work, and then spouse can still go grocery shopping in the other car). The issue is when both of them end up as SUVs, and you see highways packed full of them with single occupants.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Unsurprisingly, a lot of /r/fuckcars members are troons:
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Imagine having to sit next to a person smoking meth and blowing the fumes in your face.

Sure you can tell the conductor but guess their response.

From the LA subreddit regarding Metrolink.
^ Basically the security doesn't care and will ignore the person complaining.

This is why I believe these urbanist are trying to nudge people in the suburbs to move to the city.

First, the are assmad that people in cars get to their destination quicker but the loathe that "carbrains" don't have to deal with the "diversity" they have to on a daily basis. In their minds, they hope that more tax dollars will solve something.

 

[DumbDude43]

First, the are assmad that people in cars get to their destination quicker but the loathe that "carbrains" don't have to deal with the "diversity" they have to on a daily basis. In their minds, they hope that more tax dollars will solve something.

they know tax dollars wont solve something like that lol, they just want to force it on more people because misery loves company

 

[PyroJohn]

I'm not against cars existing, I just think there are more efficent ways of transportation. For example, a car only holds 4 people but a bus holds at least 57. It also can reduce traffic congestion

 

[quaawaa]

Everything bad is due to cars!


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[Yamamura]

Everything bad is due to cars!
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I think this post starts to encapsulate the true motivations behind the individuals who frequent this sort of sub. Deep down it's about aiming their deeper resentment at a singular thing they feel is holding them back. It honestly gives me very similar vibes to how r/atheism was back in the day blaming all the ills of the world on religion. They honestly feel like by getting rid of this singular entity it will fix their lives and if it weren't for cars they wouldn't be obese, anti-social and poor (they said it not me). But if it weren't cars it's basically either religion or capitalism for them.

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Imagine having to sit next to a person smoking meth and blowing the fumes in your face.

Sure you can tell the conductor but guess their response.

From the LA subreddit regarding Metrolink.
^ Basically the security doesn't care and will ignore the person complaining.

This is why I believe these urbanist are trying to nudge people in the suburbs to move to the city.

First, the are assmad that people in cars get to their destination quicker but the loathe that "carbrains" don't have to deal with the "diversity" they have to on a daily basis. In their minds, they hope that more tax dollars will solve something.

Somehow they believe that diluted co2 in the atmosphere will automatically give you cancer or asthma, but smoking fentanyl in an enclosed space is perfectly safe and has no adverse effects

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

IMO, most families tend to want at least two cars for convenience (i.e. one of them is at work, and then spouse can still go grocery shopping in the other car). The issue is when both of them end up as SUVs, and you see highways packed full of them with single occupants.

If only society permitted single income households (that weren't just C-Suite Executives) in reasonably priced White Communities then there would be less cars on the road.

I think this post starts to encapsulate the true motivations behind the individuals who frequent this sort of sub. Deep down it's about aiming their deeper resentment at a singular thing they feel is holding them back. It honestly gives me very similar vibes to how r/atheism was back in the day blaming all the ills of the world on religion. They honestly feel like by getting rid of this singular entity it will fix their lives and if it weren't for cars they wouldn't be obese, anti-social and poor (they said it not me). But if it weren't cars it's basically either religion or capitalism for them.

It's the same for the far right just the right goes where the evidence leads them (Kikes) even though there will be personal consequences.

 

[Luigi Cadorna]

That public health woman made me very, very MATI. Customers and employees immensely concerned about the extremely antisocial behavior and its health effects? It's not an issue and it's actually a good thing the junkies are doing it in public! My best wishes to that bus driver, he's delivered much more to society than that "expert" ever will. I'm all for good public transit (not at the expense of cars, mind you) but it's just hysterical that the same people who want to ban cars also push for policies that turn public transit into horrors from the depths of hell. Maybe people would prefer the train or bus to driving if they weren't infested by disgusting bums and drug addicts but I'm preaching to the choir here.

 

[DavidS877]

Everything bad is due to cars!
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I really like this reply:

Unless your job is driving your own car(Pizza Delivery, etc) you're not being discriminated against for not having a car, you're being discriminated against for not having reliable transportation and being able to get to work on time. I have never once had an employer ask how I get to work in an interview they just care it's reliable no matter if walking, bicycling, driving, surfing or whatever.

A good way not to get a job is to show up late to an interview and blame the bus/train/friend/whatever.