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After 25 Years, Netflix Ends DVD Rentals​

As users move to online streaming, the company will mail its last disc in September

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Packages of DVDs await shipment at the Netflix headquarters in San Jose, California, in 2002.

In a bygone epoch of Blockbuster, the red-and-white envelopes that carried Netflix DVDs to homes around America were instantly recognizable. The company has shipped over 5.2 billion discs since its inception in 1998.

But now, after 25 years, Netflix has announced that the DVD-by-mail service will end on September 29, 2023. Executives cited decreasing interest as a vast majority of their users have moved to online streaming.

“Our goal has always been to provide the best service for our members, but as the business continues to shrink that’s going to become increasingly difficult,” says Ted Sarandos, co-CEO of Netflix, in a statement.

The announcement comes at a troubling time for the streaming service, which in recent years has been embroiled in controversies ranging from staff walkouts over content choices to changes to its password-sharing policy.

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Netflix has more than 200 million streaming subscribers around the world.


According to Nicole Sperling of the New York Times, a slower than predicted quarter of growth had “analysts concerned that [Netflix] has not yet rebounded from its correction last year,” when it lost 200,000 subscribers.

Last weekend, the streaming service met with backlash across social media platforms when a much-anticipated live event, a reunion for its reality show “Love Is Blind,” failed to take place as scheduled.

“We didn’t meet the standard that we expect of ourselves to serve our members,” Greg Peters, the company’s other co-CEO, tells the Times.

But even though recent troubles have exacerbated the need for Netflix to cut costs, the end of the DVD.com era was a long time coming. This year had been suggested as a sunset date for the program since as early as 2018, reported Michael Liedtke of the Associated Press (AP) last fall.

Even from its inception, Netflix’s founders say they knew that DVDs would decline before long. The trick was to catch the wave and ride it until it crashed.

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The Netflix booth at the San Diego Comic-Con International in 2017

“It was planned obsolescence, but our bet was that it would take longer for it to happen than most people thought at the time,” Marc Randolph, Netflix’s first CEO, told the AP.

Who are the die-hard fans still paying for and using the DVD-by-mail service? Why do they do it? Some customers argue that the excitement of receiving their movies in the mail cannot be replicated digitally.

“When you open your mailbox, it’s still something you actually want instead of just bills,” Amanda Konkle, who has been subscribing to Netflix’s DVD-by-mail service since 2005, told the AP.

Konkle teaches film studies at Georgia Southern University, and she said that the DVD service helped her discover films that she went on to use in the classroom. Still, many fans of the service tell the AP that the quality of the discs and the number of selections available in recent years have plummeted. Titles, when available, were arriving late, scratched or both.

Randolph acknowledges the need for the change but laments the loss of a central part of Netflix’s identity. “Netflix’s DVD business was part-and-parcel of who Netflix was and still is,” he tells the AP. “It’s embedded in the company’s DNA.”
 
Obsolescence is always a shame. When it comes to technology; convenience and usability is always going to come out on top. It’s how a platform like MySpace that incentivised personalisation and creativity was made obsolete by the uniform, corporate Facebook. How millions of unique homepages were reduced to a small monopoly of ‘social networks’.

Instant access streaming was always going to come out on top against waiting for DVD’s to arrive. Like others, I’m surprised Netflix even had DVD’s.
 
Local to my area, I’ve seen a new video rental store open up. Its not a pure rental store, more like a nicer Hasting’s. It’s just really weird to see again. I grew up begging my mom to take my to Blockbuster every Friday to rent a new game or movie, and I guess it’s kind of cool that some children will also be able to experience that magic. Rental prices for PS5 games at one of these stores is $15 for three days. I don’t recall the pricing of rentals back then, but that seems kind of high. They have all sorts of video formats to rent, including laser discs. I would love to see the protective pizza box they give out for those rentals.

Irrelevant post, I know. I just miss the old days where renting a movie or video game was an actual experience. You made the absolute best of your selection without having ADHD take over. I subscribe to all of these streaming services and I never watch anything.
 
My grandma was one of the early adopters of Netflix when they were only (?) DVD's. I had completely forgotten about that service until I was at her house recently and saw one of them by her TV.

I was suprised, but I wonder if the disks had more of a permanent liscencing than the digital contracts where series accesibility comes and goes.
 
Local to my area, I’ve seen a new video rental store open up. Its not a pure rental store, more like a nicer Hasting’s. It’s just really weird to see again. I grew up begging my mom to take my to Blockbuster every Friday to rent a new game or movie, and I guess it’s kind of cool that some children will also be able to experience that magic. Rental prices for PS5 games at one of these stores is $15 for three days. I don’t recall the pricing of rentals back then, but that seems kind of high. They have all sorts of video formats to rent, including laser discs. I would love to see the protective pizza box they give out for those rentals.

Irrelevant post, I know. I just miss the old days where renting a movie or video game was an actual experience. You made the absolute best of your selection without having ADHD take over. I subscribe to all of these streaming services and I never watch anything.

Back when BluRay was really starting to take off the local Mom & Pop rental store closed. They had been in business since the 80s, and along with Xbox360 & PS3 games - but they had a small bit of shelving for "classics". In the year of our lord 2010 you could still rent NES/SNES/Genesis games from them (if they knew you), still had (some) new releases on VHS, had the beaded curtain, the works.

I talked to the owner cause they were selling off everything and Blockbuster was imploding, and figured they'd just gotten killed by Netflix like everyone else. He said they were still making lots of money, but it would take a huge outlay of cash to revamp their inventory for BluRay - but he was expecting to be back in the black after 5 years. He was still thinking about it, but the stripmall was trying to up-brand so they jacked his rent and provided business didn't worsen it'd take him 10 years now, and he didn't think that was worth the gamble, especially if they raised his rent again after that 10 year lease was up.
 
There was a time when Netflix DVD rental had just about everything, and that was one of the big reasons why they smoked the video rental stores.

But Netflix even at its height had more stuff for rental than its own streaming stuff, and now with the streaming world highly fractured, it means you can't just select a movie to watch unless it lines up with they have available. Sure, torrenting exists, I guess, but I wish it didn't have to be like this.
 
There's a user on another site who rents discs from Netflix because he has bad internet and is autistic about picture and sound quality.

We had a Netflix DVD rental kiosk outside the store for a couple years and then it just disappeared. I've had customers ask me about it, to which I told them I didn't know.

Guess I do now.

Edit: Never mind, it was a Redbox. I get those two mixed up for some reason.
My redboxes disappeared about a month ago, so I guess they're about to call it quits on physical media too since nobody was using them. I stopped because they started making you bring the disc back to the kiosk you got it from instead of letting you drop it off anywhere.
Local to my area, I’ve seen a new video rental store open up. Its not a pure rental store, more like a nicer Hasting’s. It’s just really weird to see again. I grew up begging my mom to take my to Blockbuster every Friday to rent a new game or movie, and I guess it’s kind of cool that some children will also be able to experience that magic. Rental prices for PS5 games at one of these stores is $15 for three days. I don’t recall the pricing of rentals back then, but that seems kind of high. They have all sorts of video formats to rent, including laser discs. I would love to see the protective pizza box they give out for those rentals.

$5 a day for a PS5 game seems reasonable enough I guess.
Irrelevant post, I know. I just miss the old days where renting a movie or video game was an actual experience. You made the absolute best of your selection without having ADHD take over. I subscribe to all of these streaming services and I never watch anything.
Yup. Back in the day when I'd only get a couple movies to watch on the weekend I had to go through everything slowly and really think about what I wanted, then I'd watch one per day all the way through. Now with thousands of movies at the touch of a button it's hard to pick one, and when I do I rarely watch it all the way through before getting bored. I have around 40 partially watched movies on my Tubi account and only rush to finish anything when the 7 day "going away" countdown starts.
 
Yup. Back in the day when I'd only get a couple movies to watch on the weekend I had to go through everything slowly and really think about what I wanted, then I'd watch one per day all the way through. Now with thousands of movies at the touch of a button it's hard to pick one, and when I do I rarely watch it all the way through before getting bored. I have around 40 partially watched movies on my Tubi account and only rush to finish anything when the 7 day "going away" countdown starts.

I miss the ritual. 80% of friday nights were drive to the strip mall with the boys (and later on, girlfriend). Put in your order at the Pizza shop. Walk to the discount grocery store for snacks/pop. Go to the video store, pick out what you want to watch. Head back and pick up pizza, then go home and watch the movie(s).
 
Couple of years ago we had an automated Redbox kiosk in a supermarket where we were staying on holiday. Was good, because the accommodation we were in didn't have internet, so no streaming anything.

Went back there just recently and it's gone.
 
Instant access streaming was always going to come out on top against waiting for DVD’s to arrive. Like others, I’m surprised Netflix even had DVD’s.
Not long after Netflix was founded, Enron had actually entered into a partnership with Blockbuster to develop a streaming video-on-demand platform.

However, Blockbuster ended the project in 2001 due to lack of available content at immediate launch and the fact their retail store rentals were extremely profitable. Had they committed to the project it probably would have saved Blockbuster and driven Netflix out of business within several years. I also think the overall VOD market would be even more developed than it is today with more competition due to earlier adoption.

I don't think it would have saved Enron as a whole but EBS would have survived.
 
Not long after Netflix was founded, Enron had actually entered into a partnership with Blockbuster to develop a streaming video-on-demand platform.

However, Blockbuster ended the project in 2001 due to lack of available content at immediate launch and the fact their retail store rentals were extremely profitable. Had they committed to the project it probably would have saved Blockbuster and driven Netflix out of business within several years. I also think the overall VOD market would be even more developed than it is today with more competition due to earlier adoption.

I don't think it would have saved Enron as a whole but EBS would have survived.
I bet a lot of people miss Blockbuster with how bad streaming has gotten; people liked the idea of things like Netflix at first, so Blockbuster and similar stores went away. Piracy is going to spike once streaming becomes the only legal option. "Support physical media" has always been one of my rules, though I'm not a movie guy and like books instead. Amazon owns Kindle, and I'd say a lot more people like Kindle. So what's going to happen when you open your Kindle one day to read something you like, and it's not there anymore because Amazon pulled the listing?
 
DVDs shouldn't even be a thing anymore. Blu-ray came out in 2006. We're even past that now with 4K.
 
I bet a lot of people miss Blockbuster with how bad streaming has gotten; people liked the idea of things like Netflix at first, so Blockbuster and similar stores went away. Piracy is going to spike once streaming becomes the only legal option. "Support physical media" has always been one of my rules, though I'm not a movie guy and like books instead. Amazon owns Kindle, and I'd say a lot more people like Kindle. So what's going to happen when you open your Kindle one day to read something you like, and it's not there anymore because Amazon pulled the listing?
This already happened. Article

Amazon deleted Nineteen Eighty-Four, amusingly, over copyright issues.

I think they've also said they might silently update people to the new "minitrue approved" versions of Roald Dahl's books
 
There was a time when Netflix DVD rental had just about everything, and that was one of the big reasons why they smoked the video rental stores.

But Netflix even at its height had more stuff for rental than its own streaming stuff, and now with the streaming world highly fractured, it means you can't just select a movie to watch unless it lines up with they have available. Sure, torrenting exists, I guess, but I wish it didn't have to be like this.
Corporations can hate piracy all they want, but really the reason there's always so much of it in the first place is because it's brought on by their own shitty policies. Just expect piracy if you're gonna divide all the content out there into a dozen streaming services that people have to pay for individually.
 
A little bit sad, my boomer dad used their DVD service religiously for all these years as it had such a broad selection of weird old movies and foreign films, oh well time to tell him to cancel.
 
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I used Netflix for Blurays until fairly recently, last year I think. 1080p disc is objectively better than 1080p streaming (48megabit vs 5 usually on streaming). 4K disc is even more of a difference, but I still don't have a 4k TV and I'd either bought or rented everything I wanted to see on Bluray. I'll rebuy a few on 4K discs of what I really want later on, they're cheap enough that it's not worth renting in any form.
 
This is probably a confession of autism, or at least being uncool, but this affects me. I just hate how there are so many streaming services; it stresses me out to have to give mind space to which service has which show and how long it's up there for and what's coming out soon. I am already using this mind space to remember to cook the asparagus before it spoils. Yes, I could pirate again, and probably will end up doing so, but that's a poor option for unpopular films, and why does everything have to be a whole thing. I resent having to give so much mental real estate to videos; this is the opposite of entertainment and convenience!

Also: the queue feature. DVD Netflix had a deep, deep catalog, and you could add up to 500 disks to your queue. You could add a movie when someone told you about an interesting movie, when you saw a theatrical promo and realized that time moves faster when you're old, or when you read that X inspired Y.

DVD Netflix is letting users download a data file of their thousands of watched/rated films and their queue, but now I have to find some way to organize/store that. Or just give up; it's kind of a binary choice between autism/"fuck it."

Along with the chains and a few small ones, we had an amazing independent video rental place here. Every inch packed with tapes, and later DVDs. There were shelves up to the ceiling and the staff had modified reacher claws to get tapes out, extended poles and a toy basketball hoop added with the net tied together so it'd catch the VHS box. If you didn't want to browse, they had giant 3-ring binders at a side counter, and additional binders listing the movies that were across town in a storage unit. If you wanted one of those, the owner would drive over there twice a week to pick up any requested deep cuts.

They were open just late enough that I could get there after my swing shift then-job with 30 minutes to spare, which made it a more exciting errand and probably made me take a gamble on some movies I might not have rented otherwise. My goal was to get to the counter before they made last call, and I usually had an idea what I wanted from my spiral notebook of Movies To Watch. I filled so many punch cards there.

I made the conscious decision not to sign up with DVD Netflix until they closed, which I think is the only thing I've ever felt strongly enough about for a personal boycott.
 
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