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Is it over?

  • Yes, I am sad and need a Ben backrub :(

    Votes: 336 31.9%
  • No, we will be back, autism too strong

    Votes: 532 50.5%
  • Cams down until we roll into Bloodgames 2

    Votes: 185 17.6%

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If any of you are wondering what a show without Jon would be like just try watching bedroom two clips after he left. You will want to blow your brains out it's so boring. Jon kicked a fucking hole in the wall, was throwing zingers left and right, called out Vance, and fucked with Letty pissing in the closet. It's now npc conversation after npc conversation. Yes fish, we know you don't like Simmons. Please talk about something else.

You always point out how boring it is when Jon isn't around, but Jon himself is the reason the show has turned out this way. It's boring when Jon leaves the room because of how the show has been shifted into the Jon show. It could be good without Jon, but it isn't going to be the same when he isn't in the room. A show without Jon would have more fishtoys, events, and chat interaction. The show doesn't have that because all that stuff distracts from Jons antics so it hasn't been developed. Fishtank without Jon in the room isn't the same thing as the Fishtank if Jon was never on the show.

You're just like the people who keep saying the show is dead whenever something crazy happens. The show is boring when Jon leaves the room because the show has pretty much just become the Jon show.

It isn't necessarily a bad thing that it's become the Jon show, but I am 100% sure that there would have been more activities, fishtoys, chat interaction, and contestant interaction without Jon in the picture. All the time Jon has spent screaming in the living room while the other fishes are around is time they would have spent talking to each other, plotting, and forming alliances to stave off boredom. All the time that Jon has spent in screaming matches, meltdowns, and manic episodes is time that would have otherwise been spent on chat interactions, challenges, and cast interactions.

Most of the things that make other "hell house" reality shows good has been sacrificed because doing that stuff would detract from the Jontent. The other stuff could turn out to be gold, but it's not worth breaking Jon out of his Jontent flow to do the preplanned events that could flop.

Whether or not anyone wants to admit it, the Fishtank has become the Jon show. It shouldn't be a surprise. The crew let a literal retard with serious emotional problems, no filter, an insanely intense personality, and a heart of gold on the show. The show was bound to end up revolving around Jon. However, Survivor and Big Brother weren't boring, they just didn't have a retarded content machine running amok through the rest of the aspects of "hell house" style reality shows that make them so good. Just like Survivor and Big Brother were great without a Jon in the mix Fishtank could be too, it would just be different.

The dynamics and character arcs that would have been taking place without Jon haven't taken place, so the absence of Jon makes the interactions the fish have when Jon leaves the room seem shallow and boring. The roll of viewer interaction in making the show interesting would be different (and certainly more intense) without Jon in the picture, so when Jon isn't around the viewer interaction seems boring and underwhelming. With Jontent in the mix more viewer interaction is just a distraction from the gold Jon is spinning, so the crazy fishtoys they were going to use to make the show interesting haven't materialized.

All of the reasons that the show is boring when Jon isn't in the room are directly due to Jon casting such a shadow over the production. And I know that Jontent enjoyers have been eating real good lately, but it's so retarded how you guys keep acting like the show without Jon in the room is what the show would have been without Jon in the picture at all.
 
If you're sick of looking at the chat and are not autistic enough to fuck around with userscripts check this out: https://fish.bone.lol/

It makes the pop-out video player work on the phone too :)

I found it in the dead chat on the site below, thanks Richard
My cheapass Lenovo tablet that refuses to play well with the shittyass normal site thanks you.
EDIT: Though the fullscreen button doesn't do shit, which is a bummer.
 
White shark comes in, knocks everything off of the dresser next to Letty, jumps on it, tapes a Vacuum cleaner on, shines a brightass flashlight in everyone's face on the way in and out, and leaves.
Then leaves the vacuum running right outside of the door.

What an asshole, I love it.
 
You always point out how boring it is when Jon isn't around, but Jon himself is the reason the show has turned out this way.
This is gonna be an equally autistic rant because I admire a guy who posts an essay. It shows you have passion for the show and I respect that immensely.

You make a fair point when you say Jon not being present would make the show different. However the show does have Jon, so saying that hypothetically it would be just as entertaining is a pointless exercise, as that’s not what the show is at this point. If you believe the producers can make the show entertaining without Jon present that’s also fine, but these producers are fairly incompetent. Example below.

Throughout all of bedroom two after Jon was kicked out there was very little entertainment value, and what entertainment there was I would argue was not nearly as enjoyable as when he was present. This is actually a perfect hypothetical for you saying that the show holds back for the jontent cycle out of fear of breaking it. Jon is out of the room and not interacting, he goes to sleep while all the others are awake. Interacting with the fish at this point wouldn’t break the cycle as the cycle isn’t in motion. And yet the producers/sharks barely do anything with that. In fact they actively turn off the constant alarm droning despite it making the fish uncomfortable. This isn’t because of Jon, this is because the producers are shit at their job.

You can’t say they did that out of fear for breaking the jontent cycle because he was clearly not present. You also state that if Jon wasn’t present the roll of viewer action regarding the fish would be more intense, and I don’t understand how this is the case. If Jon wasn’t present it’s not like this would truly turn into hell house. As if Jon is preventing all hell from breaking loose. You could argue that maybe things are taken easy on Jon himself, but as for the other fish that has no effect on them whatsoever.

It’s just odd that you assume there would be more fish toys, chat interactions, and contestant interaction. There’s simply no evidence for that. If Jon was gone does that mean tts would’ve been on far more often during the days it wasn’t? Maybe people would be allowed to slur over tts? Would the fish toys be active earlier? Is hellhouse not hellhouse simply because Jon? Maybe Jet only gave the pizza party just to calm Jon down, and if Jon wasn’t there he would’ve told all the fish to suck it up and go to bed.

There have been plenty of chat and fish interactions and while some have been entertaining they’re nothing compared to Jontent. What’d we get from tts so far? A drunken Letty rant about porn, Vance screaming then going back to doing nothing, constant Josie and Damiel dick sucking, and some awkward silences. The idea that this would somehow change without Jon is simply untrue. Pay piggies are gonna provide shit content.

The truth is the crew has been babying ALL of the fish from the start. That’s not because of Jon, it’s because the producers don’t want to blow their load and scare everyone off early. It also seems that your argument is that Jon is too entertaining, and that the show would somehow be better if it was less entertaining because the producers would find a way to make up for it. Again, maybe this is true, but we have absolutely no way of knowing this at all. If anything we should assume it would be far less entertaining with such an important character not present.

There have been times where Jon isn’t in a room for multiple hours while other fish are, and unlike the statement you’ve made saying that this would be a time where the fish would be plotting and scheming to stave off boredom it’s usually filled with boring conversation, drumming, harmonica sounds (previously), pointless improv (previously), or another person trying to fill Jon’s gap by screaming randomly with none of the passion or likability (see Damiel).

I would go as far as to argue that most scheming has taken place because of Jon. The idea of Letty being a backstabber largely originates from her being close to Jon while simultaneously talking to other fish about sabotaging him and or distancing herself from him. This is one of the most interesting conflicts in the show, as Letty has shown she cares for Jon, yet also wants to win, making for a conflicting choice of betrayal or no money.

Vance being a pussy originates largely from him hating on Jon behind closed doors with other fish but caving to him in his presence. This not only makes for some of the funniest content in the show, because a literal retard is jogging a dude without realizing he hates him, but makes Vance far more interesting than he’d be without that disdain he holds for Jon.

I don’t think I really have to mention Damiel because we already know he was Jon’s first antagonist, but that entire fight that happened between them, the drama of him leaving the show, and the “love to hate him” type attitude in this thread I would argue is largely because Jon broke him the one night. What does Damiel do without Jon to antagonize and scheme against? He reads a comic and talks like a chigger. Great content.

The only real time we’ve seen the hogs do something other than sleep or eat was when Jon tried to steal their baby. They then enetered a huge screaming match and spent a very large amount of time ranting about the whole event after. It was interesting enough for the crew to bring cameras out and record the whole incident. And it was easily the peak of what the hogs have done entertainment wise so far.

I’m going to stop here because I’ve written enough, but I could go on. I left out two other fish from the roster, and I haven’t even described the content Jon has provided through contests or Goldstriker. Every reality show has the main cast that it’s centered around, Jon just so happened to be that cast member. Instead of complaining that he’s entertaining maybe you should enjoy what he does for the show as a whole.

TLDR: your argument centers around the concept that Jon is too entertaining, therefore he makes the show worse. I think this is flawed.
 
White shark shows up again with his brighter-than-the-sun flashlight with a milk jug and a towel of some sort. Puts the milk jug down and rubs the random shit on the floor around with the towel. Dunno if the towel is soaked in anything or not.
 
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Letty trying to plug the timer back in to try to force people out.
 
White shark came back and turned off the timer again, because this is too much psychological pressure I guess.
 
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