US NYT: New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Buildings - Gov. Kathy Hochul announced a state budget deal on Thursday with the first statewide ban on the use of natural gas in new buildings.

New York to Ban Natural Gas, Including Stoves, in New Buildings
The New York Times (archive.ph)
By Liam Stack
2023-04-28 15:30:58GMT

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Gas stoves would be banned in New York under a new state budget deal negotiated this week.Credit...Scott Olson/Getty Images

New York may soon become the first state in the nation to ban natural gas in new construction under a budget deal announced by Gov. Kathy Hochul.

The proposal, revealed on Thursday night, has been a priority for environmental groups, who see it as a critical step in reducing New York’s dependence on fossil fuels and helping it meet its emission reduction goals. But it was opposed by the oil and gas industry and treated skeptically by some consumers.

Environmental groups warned that the details of the plan were still unclear and said they worried it may contain a provision that would allow local governments to effectively veto the measure. But Katy Zielinski, a spokeswoman for the governor’s office, said on Friday that no such measure was included in the deal.

“The new law will not have any loopholes that will undermine the intent of this measure,” said Ms. Zielinski. “There will not be any option for municipalities to op out.”

It is part of the sprawling $229 billion state budget deal announced by the governor, which capped weeks of heated negotiations that have delayed the budget’s passage by almost a month. State lawmakers are expected to vote on the deal next week.

Gov. Hochul said on Thursday the deal was a “conceptual agreement” whose broad strokes needed to be “fine tuned” before a final vote was held. The proposed ban would not apply to existing buildings.

Ms. Zielinski said the measure would also allow exemptions for facilities that may need multiple power sources for emergency backup power, including hospitals and laboratories. And she said the governor’s office was still “figuring out” how the measure will be applied to new construction in areas where the electrical grid may not be up to the task.

“We are looking at reliability issues still, meaning if there is a proposal to build a new building after 2025 but there is a lack of electric capacity in that region, how will we handle that?” she said. “We don’t want to build new buildings if the local grid does not have the energy to be able to power them.”

The idea of banning gas hookups in new construction has been derided as government overreach by Republicans around the country and in New York. Its inclusion in the budget deal was criticized by Gov. Hochul’s opponents, including Lee Zeldin, a former member of Congress whom she narrowly defeated last November to secure her first full term.

“The Democrats enthusiastically pummeling New York into the ground are about to pass a statewide ban of gas hookups on new construction,” he said on Twitter. “Kathy Hochul and her cohorts are fast tracking the downward spiral of a once greatest state.”

A similar ban passed by New York City in 2021 will begin to take effect in December, when gas hookups will be banned in all new buildings shorter than seven stories, effectively requiring all-electric heating and cooking. The measure will not apply to taller buildings until 2027.

On Friday, environmental advocates said they were concerned that the lack of clarity means a “poison pill” measure favored by the fossil fuel lobby could still be introduced, which would hobble the measure from the start. They may hold their applause until the legislature votes on the final deal.

“New Yorkers are watching carefully to make sure the final budget includes real action and doesn’t defer to the gas lobby,” #GasFreeNY, a statewide coalition of advocacy groups that campaigned for the gas ban, said in a statement. “Taken on its face, this will be an enormous victory, but the devil is in the details.”
 
3-6 months ago:"Nobody wants to ban gas stoves! That's a baseless right-wing conspiracy theory!"

Say it with me, everyone:
Good job commie fuck, Now there's gonna be a massive exodus from New York even worse than before.
They want more people to leave, so they can colonize non-retarded states.
 
Weren't there bogus studies that concluded (made the fuck up) that natural gas et all were harmful to health, giving a justification to ban it all of sudden? This has moved fast and is as fake and gay as everything else happening.
And one of those studies was tied to a company that specializes in electrifying old buildings, ie replacing gas stoves.
 
I just remember friends of my parents who thought an electric water heater/home heating sounded great in their new house... until they saw their electric bill. But no gas lines had been run at all in their housing development, so they couldn't switch.

Then the development expanded across the street, putting gas lines in as well, and they asked and were told by the gas company that if at least five households wanted gas, then the gas company would run a line under the street. When they mentioned it to their neighbors, ALL of them wanted to sign on.

Heat is one of the most wasteful uses of electric, ever.
 
No one is going to want to run a restaurant out of a new building, that is for sure. Gas is king. Hopefully this fails.
 
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