Debate Android raptor on the ethics of caring for retards

[Higgs Bonbon]

Wait what?

Oh yes, you should read all the lovely things she has to say about the most vulnerable people in society. Before she starts deleting them I mean.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

I play up the kid-hating for the Thunderdome crowd. Works every time like a charm.

I dont visit that area, I stick to the BP and deathfats. But I still genuinely hope youre getting help. Not because I think youre crazy, but narc parent can do major damage.

I cant tell if you are playing it up or not.

 

[Android raptor]

Oh yes, you should read all the lovely things she has to say about the most vulnerable people in society. Before she starts deleting them I mean.

Embryos aren't people.

I dont visit that area, I stick to the BP and deathfats. But I still genuinely hope youre getting help. Not because I think youre crazy, but narc parent can do major damage.

I cant tell if you are playing it up or not.

Thunderdome is mostly populated by /pol/ retards mad about abortion because they like the idea of forced pregnancy to punish women for having sex with men other than them. Despite their pearl-clutching over my edgyposts I guarentee they're the same kinda dudes who'd shake their babies to death if they had to watch it for a few hours. They're fun to rile up tho.

I am crazy, but I've gotten plenty of help. Getting what I need as an adult in a red state is often like jumping thru flaming hoops, however (been going thru some serious issues lately I'm not going to elaborate too much on RN but needless to say it's been wearing my pretty thin).

 

[thegooddoctor]

Ever consider I specifically edgepost about dead babies in the thunderdome because I know the crowd that openly cheers for murdering gay people or women or w/e always clutches pearls when someone posts the same shit about babies or embryos/fetuses for some reason?

Plus it's a decent way to blow off steam over living in a shithole where the government can't be assed to cough up basic necessities like Healthcare and shelter, but always has time for micromamaging my reproductive organs.

Like speds hitting or throwing shit at each other? Pretty common, I did it myself a couple times and got suspended accordingly.

But do you actually mean it though? I’d like to hope you don’t obviously tons of kiwis post stupid and edgy schlock all the time to raise eyebrows or for humours sake but after a while if you have a particular propensity to behaving yourself a certain way people are gonna actually start to think you mean what you say. Overall how much of it is true/ edgy bullshit to rule up the /pol/ crowd, if you could give an estimate?

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Embryos aren't people.

Thunderdome is mostly populated by /pol/ retards mad about abortion because they like the idea of forced pregnancy to punish women for having sex with men other than them. Despite their pearl-clutching over my edgyposts I guarentee they're the same kinda dudes who'd shake their babies to death if they had to watch it for a few hours. They're fun to rile up tho.

I am crazy, but I've gotten plenty of help. Getting what I need as an adult in a red state is often like jumping thru flaming hoops, however (been going thru some serious issues lately I'm not going to elaborate too much on RN but needless to say it's been wearing my pretty thin).

Have you thought about moving? I will never live in a red state for several reasons.

 

[Android raptor]

But do you actually mean it though? I’d like to hope you don’t obviously tons of kiwis post stupid and edgy schlock all the time to raise eyebrows or for humours sake but after a while if you have a particular propensity to behaving yourself a certain way people are gonna actually start to think you mean what you say. Overall how much of it is true/ edgy bullshit to rule up the /pol/ crowd, if you could give an estimate?

I mean it to the extent that if I got pregnant I probably would be abusive and more than likely get post-partum psychosis. I am not someone who should ever reproduce and I fully admit that, and that's part of why living in a red state is terrifying rn.

I don't want to repeat the cycle of abuse and the only way I can guarentee that is by never having kids.

Have you thought about moving? I will never live in a red state for several reasons.

Absolutely, main issues are money, and my entire support network is here and that's not easy to replace. I probably will move back to the blue state I'm originally from eventually (been trapped in the Bible belt since age 6)

 

[NerdShamer]

I am not someone who should ever reproduce

Get your tubes cut before the unmentionable happens

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Get your tubes cut before the unmentionable happens

That can fail tbh unless the tubes are removed. My suggestion is anyone who wants a tubal should absolutely ask for their tubes removed instead of cauterization, clip, ring, etc and do not use Essure, due to long term complications

 

[Android raptor]

Get your tubes cut before the unmentionable happens

I have an IUD and would pursue getting my tubes tied if that didn't do jack shit about Satan's waterfall. Had serious issues with period hormones not playing nicely with my brain chemistry until I got an IUD.

I don't have sex with men either so my risk of pregnancy is incredibly slight, but it's not completely 0 and I can't deny that I'm a bit tokophobic. Plus I have straight and bi friends I'm worried about, they all use some form of BC but it's nothing is 100%.

There's also the issue that it can be a pain in the ass finding a doctor willing to tie your tubes unless you already have like 3 kids or are 45+ years old. Especially if you are poor and don't have the luxury of doctor shopping.

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

I have an IUD and would pursue getting my tubes tied if that didn't do jack shit about Satan's waterfall. Had serious issues with period hormones not playing nicely with my brain chemistry until I got an IUD.

I don't have sex with men either so my risk of pregnancy is incredibly slight, but it's not completely 0 and I can't deny that I'm a bit tokophobic. Plus I have straight and bi friends I'm worried about, they all use some form of BC but it's nothing is 100%.

There's also the issue that it can be a pain in the ass finding a doctor willing to tie your tubes unless you already have like 3 kids or are 45+ years old. Especially if you are poor and don't have the luxury of doctor shopping.

Not at all. If you have health conditions and those pose a risk to having a child, an ob should be ok with it.However you are in a red state so it may be different there.

Although, it does hurt a lot. Mostly the gas pain, you’ll get in places you don’t expect like your shoulder/back.

 

[JamusActimus]

I don't have sex with men either so my risk of pregnancy is incredibly slight, but it's not completely 0

If you don't have have with men the risk of pregnancy is 0.

 

[TheBigZee]

If you don't have have with men the risk of pregnancy is 0.

Voluntary sex. Even uggos get raped.

 

[Flaming_Barghast]

This shit frustrates me so bad.
I'm admittedly guilty of a lot of powerleveling but my guy, many of us here have issues. You kinda have to to be a farmer. I myself am brain damaged to the point my personality changed, as well as a lot of other stuff I won't mention because it's a retarded idea to air out your dirty laundry on a site with a lot of enemies. I'm going to guess you want to be treated like a normal person. You know how you do that? You don't mention it every sentence. Everything you say colors a certain perception of you. If you want to have people be less discriminatory to you for being autistic and bpd, stop acting like a stereotype. You're making it 1000x harder for other genuine retards. Show them that you CAN be normal, that you CAN act appropriately. Don't hide behind your god damn diagnosis for your reasons and trust me, you are. My brain damage mimics a lot of what you and many others have, most are surprised to learn I have that issue, they think I'm just a little annoying or quirky, but otherwise completely normal. That's because I try very fucking hard to fit into a normal societal expectation with extensive therapies. I've spent half my life to not look, act or sound like I'm brain damaged. And trust me, it very much effects my everyday life, I just learned to work around it.

Also, people are making fun of you. It's probably hard to tell, but most people that ask blantant questions are doing it for a laugh, even normies do it.

 

[Android raptor]

Not at all. If you have health conditions and those pose a risk to having a child, an ob should be ok with it.However you are in a red state so it may be different there.

Although, it does hurt a lot. Mostly the gas pain, you’ll get in places you don’t expect like your shoulder/back.

Don't you still get a period if you get your tubes tied? The IUD has done wonders for my mental health and having to deal with Satan's waterfall again would be a huge setback for that.

If you don't have have with men the risk of pregnancy is 0.

Unfortunately you don't have to consent to sex to get pregnant. Or else pregnant children would never be a thing (if only).

This shit frustrates me so bad.
I'm admittedly guilty of a lot of powerleveling but my guy, many of us here have issues. You kinda have to to be a farmer. I myself am brain damaged to the point my personality changed, as well as a lot of other stuff I won't mention because it's a retarded idea to air out your dirty laundry on a site with a lot of enemies. I'm going to guess you want to be treated like a normal person. You know how you do that? You don't mention it every sentence. Everything you say colors a certain perception of you. If you want to have people be less discriminatory to you for being autistic and bpd, stop acting like a stereotype. You're making it 1000x harder for other genuine retards. Show them that you CAN be normal, that you CAN act appropriately. Don't hide behind your god damn diagnosis for your reasons and trust me, you are. My brain damage mimics a lot of what you and many others have, most are surprised to learn I have that issue, they think I'm just a little annoying or quirky, but otherwise completely normal. That's because I try very fucking hard to fit into a normal societal expectation with extensive therapies. I've spent half my life to not look, act or sound like I'm brain damaged. And trust me, it very much effects my everyday life, I just learned to work around it.

Try actually reading Tard Baby from the start and form your own opinions about my posts. Highly recommend it, very heavy but fascinating thread (should also be mandatory reading for all prolifers).

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

This shit frustrates me so bad.
I'm admittedly guilty of a lot of powerleveling but my guy, many of us here have issues. You kinda have to to be a farmer. I myself am brain damaged to the point my personality changed, as well as a lot of other stuff I won't mention because it's a retarded idea to air out your dirty laundry on a site with a lot of enemies. I'm going to guess you want to be treated like a normal person. You know how you do that? You don't mention it every sentence. Everything you say colors a certain perception of you. If you want to have people be less discriminatory to you for being autistic and bpd, stop acting like a stereotype. You're making it 1000x harder for other genuine retards. Show them that you CAN be normal, that you CAN act appropriately. Don't hide behind your god damn diagnosis for your reasons and trust me, you are. My brain damage mimics a lot of what you and many others have, most are surprised to learn I have that issue, they think I'm just a little annoying or quirky, but otherwise completely normal. That's because I try very fucking hard to fit into a normal societal expectation with extensive therapies. I've spent half my life to not look, act or sound like I'm brain damaged. And trust me, it very much effects my everyday life, I just learned to work around it.

Also, people are making fun of you. It's probably hard to tell, but most people that ask blantant questions are doing it for a laugh, even normies do it.

I’m really sorry for what you’ve gone through. Like, for real. I took care of dementia and Alzheimer’s patients and it’s not easy, I know it’s not because you lose control of who you are.

I will say I’ll never make fun of anyone here, maybe others but not me. I guess because I’ve seen first hand what brain damage does to people. You do make some good points, though.

@Android raptor, ask for an endometrial ablation. It eliminates periods and is it also doubles as birth control.

 

[vomitusdeux]

ask for an endometrial ablation. It eliminates periods and is it also doubles as birth control.

You just helped two retards get sterilized today

 

[Android raptor]

I hadn't really heard about endometrial ablation before, at least not about it getting rid of periods. When I'm the position to be able to access something like that I'll definitely look into it. The IUD has been a godsend and while my risk of pregnancy is extremely low, it's not completely 0 since rape happens and IUDs aren't 100%

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

It’s an option to stop periods, particularly heavy ones but it also causes you to be sterile to the point where the stats are 0.24-0.68 percent chance of getting pregnant. Which is actually more efficient than a tubal, which has a failure rate of 1.85 percent (over a ten year period)

The downside is if you do get pregnant, much like with a tubal, it’s a medical emergency type of situation where it can end up ectopic.

 

[vomitusdeux]

It’s an option to stop periods, particularly heavy ones but it also causes you to be sterile to the point where the stats are 0.24-0.68 percent chance of getting pregnant. Which is actually more efficient than a tubal, which has a failure rate of 1.85 percent (over a ten year period)

The downside is if you do get pregnant, much like with a tubal, it’s a medical emergency type of situation where it can end up ectopic.

are they still gonna give me the whole "blah blah BLAH UR HUSBAND IS GONNA WANT KIDS SOMEDAY" no he doesnt either, has encouraged me to do what I want with my body in that area, and I'm also over 30. and have more than one disability that runs in my family strongly (I don't wanna PL other than autism thanks) why the fuck do they care so much? I'm old enough to know what I want if i was like 23 and not a genetic failure I'd get it.

 

[Sparkling Yuzu]

I'm a literal short-bus riding autist AMA

Did you ever get any treatment for it in childhood? What were the sped kids like/their special interests? Did your school separate sped and resource classes like some do? What did the speds think of the kids in resource? What was the most desirable seat on the short bus? Are you able to drive as an adult?

No snark, just curious because the attitude now is to mainstream as much as possible and only resort to self containment if absolutely necessary.

I'm a fellow sped, I have NVLD which is similar to Asperger's/high functioning autism and was mainstreamed. I'm against it. Mainstreaming is a disaster for the sped race. It's all bc of Down's mommies who get triggered by any reminder that their child has different needs.
I'm not the other one with disabilities against mainstreaming, a friend who is hoh is also against it bc she fell behind not due to intellect but due to her hearing loss and was never taught to sign either.

Anything involving more than 2 numbers next to each other makes me brain shit itself, and writing anything more than a sentence or two by hand is a pain in the ass and looks like shit. I think I have dyscalculia (which is supposedly not uncommon with autists), but according to the adults in my life I was just being lazy and defiant.

Very similar for me. They call the trouble writing by hand thing is called dysgraphia. I dropped out of hs due to not being able to get all the types of credits I needed (science and math). I was recommended an IEP but never given one bc I was "too smart and just not applying myself" despite a diagnosed LD.

some people with dyscalculia can’t tell left from right and things like that.

That's me, I literally have to make an L with my hand.

Had serious issues with period hormones not playing nicely with my brain chemistry until I got an IUD.

Same but take estrogen based pills. My period makes me suicidal for literally no reason. Not like "I'm so suicidal wuw bc my period makes me dysphoric" it just tends to do that to my brain. Gyno and GP say it's fine to take it without a break to suppress my period.