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Oh no... (2:31 AM) Letty and Jon scheming or something. Its extremely in audible and masked by the background noise.

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Jet and crew enter and inform Jon that if he is whispering he will have a camera in his face
 
Looking forward to Jon telling Vance about Letty turning on him. Only for Vance to gas him up against Letty some more.
At this point the three of them should just form a triple alliance with each other. They're the strongest candidates at this point, they're all capable of getting along, and they have each plotted against the third member on different occasions. Josie seems like one of the most likable fish in real life but she wouldn't be as exciting of a final week contestant because she doesn't scheme or get upset. Vance, Letty, and Jon would be the most exciting final three, so that's who I'm rooting for right now.

I'd really love to see Josie start doing some some mastermind villain plotting out of nowhere towards the end but I don't think that's her style.
 
At this point the three of them should just form a triple alliance with each other.
Letty and Jon spat too often to keep it together, along with Jon being Jon and either telling people outright about plans, making it so people don't wanna partner with him other than Letty, or his plans are very poorly thought out (baby snatching comes to mind). I think its interesting Letty burned what was probably her last bridge by running and telling Jon what Vance said.
 
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It's a testament to this show that not only are the fish extremely invested in forming alliances in a show where alliances don't matter, but the audience is invested too.

Not sure if that's because of the production team or in spite of them.
The funniest part to me is that at this point they should know damn well whoever they alliance with is going to blab, they do it every time.

The interesting thing is trying to figure out which ones actually have a "real" alliance, I'm kind of doubtful any of them do, but I have to say I really wish the Jon/Letty alliance was real because they have interesting chemistry as the two biggest social retards in the house.

Sylvia needs to fucking go. She really pissed me off in bedroom 4 trying to pretend she's trad when you know her feminist bullshit is probably 1000 times more extreme than Lettie's.
 
Letty and Jon spat too often to keep it together, along with Jon being Jon and either telling people outright about plans, making it so people don't wanna partner with him other than Letty, or his plans are very poorly thought out (baby snatching comes to mind). I think its interesting Letty burned what was probably her last bridge by running and telling Jon what Vance said.
Damiel is too stupid to make plans, Sylvia doesn't do anything, and Josie doesn't care, so Jon snitching wouldn't really have an effect. I still think it's the best plan for them, and I'm not sure why they haven't realized who the weakest fish are yet. Maybe it's just easier to tell from an audience standpoint.
 
Summary of Recent Events

PUNISHED LETTY ARC INBOUND

It is worth noting that Letty had a very calm voice during this whole ordeal, one you would expect out of a very disappointed mother. She did seem fairly genuine and pissed off about this situation. Any weird shit that was said in a funny tone will be ITALICIZED to discern jokes from real statements. Statements from her are highlighted in GREEN. Statements that are Vance will be highlighted in BLUE. Whenever another character enters I will make a clear indication with capitalized bold text.

TTS comes on in the b4 snake den saying that everyone in the room should stay and everyone outside of the room (so basically Letty) needs to go. Letty overhears this and starts to talk.

"I’ve been nothing but nice to Jon, but what? We have different opinions and all of a sudden he doesn’t like me? I’ve always defended him when people talked shit about him. He can’t handle me having a different opinion even though as a person I’ve treated you [Jon] well?"

"It’s just hard when you’re in a house with all these people and there’s no one else to talk to. And they’re like all against you."
TTS comes on saying she was right about the Jon thing but she’s been two faced. She says she doesn’t know how she’s been two faced.

"I’ve never been two faced to Sylvia, Josie, Jon, or even Damiel because I’ve made it clear I don’t like him. I haven’t been two faced with Vance because Sylvia told me Vance was lying about our alliance. "

TTS says alliances don’t matter in this game. Letty says she agrees with this. She thanks the chat for being there for her. Letty says “I spent two weeks with these people and it sucks that they’re now in a room being dicks even though (stops to eavesdrop on b4) I guess I shouldn’t get too in my head about it. Jon started acting different the second I said something that challenged his views. What kind of man does that?”

She says she’s a bit different from the others and that’s why she’s been alienated.
TTS says the whole house is coming for her. She responds “should I go in there and say I know you’re talking shit about me? Say it to my face? Should I do that? Should I confront them?” “Shouldn’t a strong man be like ‘oh you’re just a silly woman you believe in silly things like feminism?’

TTS says she should have a heart to heart with Jon. She says she might not talk to Jon after this because of his betrayal and how he acted. She says “He’s asking me to go downstairs and read the Bible to me when he’s in their talking shit? Who does he think he is?”

Lots of TTS happened here. It was basically hate on the snake pit in B4 and Letty agreeing. Letty says they need to put a salt circle around the room in order to keep her out. TTS says that they aren’t even talking shit about her and she should go in and socialize. She says that why would she go into a room of people who don’t respect her. She then ponders if they’re all being two faced with each other (spoiler, they most likely are).

TTS comes on saying she won the challenge but lost her only friend. Letty says “It’s his fault then. If you lose your friend over a debate are you truly friends? I got mad at him during our debate yesterday and I still acted nice to him. Because I’m not gonna let someone’s views get in the way of somebody's friendship. But clearly he’s getting butthurt about it just because I did my best in the challenge to debate him. I mean if I’m wrong I’ll eat my shoe, but that’s what it seems like to me. Like if he had won the debate, I would still be friends with him. Now what is he gonna act all fake to me? I thought he was all honest and had integrity or whatever. And Sylvia trying to scheme with me too, but is that because she felt rejected by the group too? So she goes to me because I’m the underdog or whatever?”


Jet comes in to say that for the rest of the night to not worry about her disabilities and that this applies to everybody. He leaves. Letty says “Thank you for all the kind messages, and haters you're ugly and fuck you, and I don’t wanna go in their because I feel like I’ll cry. I know I put on a front and all that, but I actually am very sensitive.” She goes on to say that Jon should just respect her opinions like she does with his. “I never said I wanted equality, maybe what I want is something entirely different. I’m about to have a tantrum and start kicking my feet and shit.”

Jon comes in and offers Letty chicken. Letty says that they’re all laughing at her. JON ADMITS IT LMAO!!! “Wanna come down and eat chicken?” Letty shakes her head no. Vance comes in and asks if she’s ok. Letty ignores him. Vance seems really awkward, says “um” and then starts folding clothes while whistling.”uuh I kinda wanted to ask you something. So we got an alliance right? And you’re still good with that?” Letty asks why. “Because I’m still interested in that, and you’re not dumb you can tell what’s going on right? Lettys says yes. “I’ll let you in on my grand strategy a little more. I.. let me change real quick.” Vance leaves the room.

POSSIBLE VANCE ALLIANCE INBOUND

TTS comes on asking if she's going to trust Vance or not. She says she doesn't trust him but that she'll work with him. Vance enters and begins his le epic mastermind plan. "Did you tell Jon if I can't be trusted? I already know." Letty says that she told Jon something about not being with Vance and Damiel. She says she was pissed that he was acting stand-offish to get with Vance and Damiel and that they were trying to be friends with Jon in order to turn him against her. Vance says "The reason that I kind of, I mean, cause you and I were talking about that stuff and it's because I heard that. The way I see it is that Jon has given up on this challenge and that he's next. Hmm I'm not sure how much I wanna reveal, but basically, here's the deal, if I'm telling you this stuff it has to be 100% you and me." Letty says she won't tell, and that even if she did nobody would believe her. "Uhh yeah so I'll be honest, it did kinda change when I heard that, but, umm, I think it's good to have you around because it keeps a target off of me." Letty scoffs at this and says "ok Vance." deaminingly, "I'm in there doing my thing yucking it up, but I won't fuck you over if I can do anything about it." Letty responds she won't fuck him over because she wants Damiel out due to him being the ring leader of their "little group." Vance asks if she thinks it will be a problem for him in the future. Letty says yes, but that Vance has a better chance due to being better at the challenges. Vance states, "people say I'm a snake or whatever, but what that means is I'm trying to make it so that no matter what happens I have a very clear path. And at this point I feel like I can just tell you that, because you don't have many options left." Letty asks what the others are saying about her. Vance says he doesn't know (lie). Mariachi music comes on. so I couldn't hear thirty seconds of scheming. Vance continues "It's uhhh, Damiel is Damiel, y'know? He's gonna do his thing. What you're seeing now is the work of Jon (lie). Vance basically says that Jon is saying he wants to get out. Letty falls for this and starts ranting about this towards Vance.

Food ASMR comes on here. Letty is still ranting about Jon looking up to Damiel and Vance jerks her off about how it's a good read of her. She says it's pussy of Jon to hate on her just because everyone else is. Vance says "yeah." Vance tries to plant seeds of discourse saying that he told her to talk shit about Jon in the past. Letty continues to say how she never talked shit about Jon even when others did, and that he changed just because of a little debate. Vance says in reference to their late night conversation, "So when I told you that, I was saying strike first, I mean, yeah he just..." Letty goes on to say that Jon's ego is hurt. Vance says, "outside the game, like..." Jon enters the room and requests a talk with Violetta.

THE FUCKING VENT WAS TOO LOUD AND I COULDN'T HEAR SHIT FROM THEIR CONVERSATION I'M SO PISSED!!! FUCKERS WERE WHISPERING TOO

The only things I could make out from this conversation was that it was quiet, Jon mentioned Vance, and he was speaking slowly and precisely, as if they were talking about something important. Jet comes in and says they should do it in an empty bedroom so they can hear them THANK CHRIST. Sadly this puts an end to the conversation (for now). Letty enters B1 bedroom where Vance is located and tells Vance she's mad about the trash in the room and that it's not just her. Letty says that Jon just wanted to talk to her and make sure she's ok (I have no idea how true this is as I couldn't hear shit. For all I know she committed back to Jon in the span of 5 minutes). Vance says "ok" and moves on to a stupid story about his brother or some shit. Vance says that Jon is next and that she'll be gone next after him, but he doesn't want her gone because she takes the target off of him. Vance says that Jon is the only one gunning for her (very big lie) and that even Damiel isn't that after her. Letty asks if Jon said anything about fucking her over in this challenge. Vance says no but that he said that he hopes Letty loses. Vance says that she should target Jon over Damiel, and that when they had their original discussion they talked about Jon. Jon calls for Letty from downstairs. Vance says that they did the baby thing that they can do something else in the future. He tells Letty that if she has any ideas that she should let him know. Letty says that Damiel has more influence than Jon because he controls everyone else. "He was trying to influence all of you and he thinks all of you guys are easily influenced, because you guys go along with what he says." Vance says he goes along with what everyone says and Letty says that's because he's a snake. Vance says he's not trying to hide anything from her, Letty responds he couldn't even if he tried.

Vance says that after Letty and Sylvia were done talking in B1 that she was a little pissed at him. Letty says that she's most likely onto him and that some people in the house might think he's a liar. Vance says that the way he treated Jon in the beginning made him susceptible to comments like that, also the fact that he tries to alliance with everybody. Vance says "Be honest with me and be honest with yourself, are you a snake? Because if what I'm doing makes me a snake then I'm a snake." Letty says, she thinks so but that she puts her motivations on the table and that that isn't snake like. Vance says that the snake alliance is strong once again.

Vance says that he thinks on a real outside of the game level that it's gonna get rough in general and it might break the fish. He says things are going to be personal. "The Jon thing for example, you thought you were friends, and outside of here we'll be friends, but in here it's war, it's fucking war. And that's why I'm ready for war."
Letty says she sees it getting rough after today and that she's in shock and kind of excited. Vance says that if somebody is giving Letty shit she should fight back if somebody calls her out. The more she fights back the more respect that creates and it's better for her. When Letty asks how Vance says he doesn't know, but that she has to make enemies in a way that the people like to see. He goes on to say that he's ahear to make a spectacle but that he's not a shittalker in real life. Letty says she's been thinking about becoming a villain but that she's afraid of guys sometimes and that she doesn't like when men show anger. Letty is convinced by Vance to be a bitch to Jon (supposedly).

A DOUBLE BACKSTAB BELOW

Letty tells Jon about the things Vance said, Jon says that Vance is against her too. Letty is worried about everything she says to Jon being carried upstairs. It seems like an alliance has formed between Letty, Sylvia, and Jon or at least Jon and Letty. Sylvia goes upstairs to go to bed followed by Letty and Jon. They enter b2 and Letty says that her and Jon should pretend to get into a fight tomorrow to throw everybody off and that Vance is getting suspicious about them talking so much. Letty says that they should start pretending to get on each others nerves and to only talk in secret from now on in order to not let the other fish know about their secret alliance. She mentions to Jon about how Damiel called her a bitch. She says that Vance wants her to sabotage Jon in the next challenge, but she refuses to do so. Jon seemed very receptive of this idea. Stupid porno sounds come on and I couldn't hear shit for 30 seconds. They both leave the room.

Letty talks to Jet about TTS snitching. Jet admits that he let that one through on accident and that they shouldn't snitch in public spaces. Anyone who snitches now will be banned.

Vance hangs in the kitchen with Letty and Jon for a bit. Things are awkward but he eventually fucks off. Jon lays on the couch and Letty kneels beside him to whisper shit into his ear. Too quiet to hear. Letty eventually goes back upstairs. She starts talking to the camera about cleaning her room a little bit. Vance enters the room and Letty barely says anything about Jon. Only that he was being very vague. I will note here that while it is possible that Letty is backstabbing Jon, I do not find it likely since she spilled so much stuff to him earlier. I could be wrong though. We have to see how it all plays out.

At the current time of writing this (2:42am fishtank time) Letty and Vance are talking about the Internet. Hopefully all the interesting stuff is over so I don't have to type anymore. I will make edits if necessary.
 
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All of this happened in Bedroom 1. After apparently convincing Violetta that Jon is the leader of the Alliance against her, Vance gets up close to the camera and acts cocky, flexing as he does it. "You know how it is... gotta keep the hooks in each fish." "I can't stop winning." "Who needs legs? I got a mouth." He's pantomiming a baseball bat again. "Another dinger!" he says as he swings the phantom bat. "Right now we need Letty and Jon to fight. You get it? And I need to keep some of the heat off of Josie, Sylvia and Damiel. So she's asking 'What's this about, why does everyone hate me?' Uh... I think it's Jon. It must be Jon!"

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I kept trying to get a better screenshot but this was the only one that would render. Weird, right?

At some point he talks about the "zesty topic of gender roles" discussed earlier in the debate, at the time he gave a joke response, doing a Norm Macdonald bit still in character as a schizophrenic veteran. Here he says "my opinion on gender roles is... I'm just that dude."

TTS: A zesty topic you're too much of a wimp to have an opinion on
"Who gives a fuck. Opinions are for losers." "If you're worried, if you're caught up in a debate, it's because you're not that dude. If you were just that dude, you could just brush anything off." He then says "You guys are gonna call me snake eater from now on, you got it?" but he was whispering out of utter fear of Violetta's retaliation, which kills the cool guy façade he puts on.

For anyone actually curious about Vance's politics, this snarky response and the contents of his Twitter account coincide well with a certain denomination popular among disaffected American youth.

Violetta comes in and addresses the poopy toilet paper. Vance negs her: "Damn, did you do this? What's wrong with you?" He says a few more mean-spirited things because he has her backed against a corner, I couldn't write them down in time. "I think Jon will leave next because of the challenge, I think you'll be next after that, but I don't want that to happen," he lies. "Though it takes a target off of me, just to be blunt." "So, basically, don't fuck me over and I won't fuck you over." Violetta considers who to target between Damiel and Jon, Vance says "I would target Jon for sure. When we had our initial thing, weren't we targeting Jon?" They weren't. They were targeting Simmons because Jon had immunity at the time. Violetta warns that Damiel is trying to control his group, Vance says she's right and "got it all figured out."

He pries some more: "What were you talking with Sylvia about?" in reference to their long talk in B1. Violetta says it was just personal stuff. Vance says "Because when you guys were done she was upset with me," which is a lie. He's riding off the fact that Sylvia told him earlier that Violetta told her during their talk that she hated him. I don't even know if this is true, Sylvia might've been extrapolating or downright lying to him here.

Vance says "Be honest with me, and be honest with yourself when you're saying this. Are you a snake? Because if what I'm doing is being a snake, then I'm a snake." Violetta says "I guess so" and that she always puts all her cards on the table. This is true, I guess, but only because everybody is against her now. They create a fake "snake alliance." "Uh, we good?" Vance asks. "Yeah, we'll talk about it more tomorrow once we see the disabilities."

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Violetta receives a loot box of trash at this point in the conversation. TTS asks her to open it, she does and shows the camera.

Vance is telling Letty to become confrontational, he's definitely setting her up to fail

"This shit might break you, and don't let it. It's gonna be, like, personal. The Jon thing, for example, you thought you were friends..." "Outside of the show we might be friends but in here it's war." "I want to tell you that if someone is giving you shit, you really have to fight back." "If it gets rough and someone is calling you out, the more respect that creates, that's better for you." He's trying to create a fight between Jon and her. Violetta says she's non-confrontational, Vance says she should "get confrontational." He says she should "just yell louder than Jon, I think people would respect that." Violetta passively agrees. She considers that she'll act like there's nothing wrong between her and Jon, Vance says "I wouldn't do that, I would be a total bitch to him" while chuckling. He's such a bad liar he can't hide his enthusiasm.

Violetta leaves, Vance looks at the camera and says "I'm doing this for you guys." He says something else but the audio is muted, some gay entity sound effect bullshit is playing in the background and the screen goes red. The effects go away, and Vance says "I ain't never gon' flop. The day the flop is the day I die" like a black person. This show is making me think every white american male is secretly a wigger. Vance scoffs and says "I really hope she's a huge giant bitch to Jon, that would be so good." He leaves.

Will the vancepill be approved by the FDA? Will lettybugs be exterminated? Well...

Letty went downstairs to the kitchen and immediately told Jon and Sylvia about what Vance was talking about, lol. Absolute fail on his part.

Letty and Jon moved to Bedroom 2 to discuss strategy. Letty knows exactly what Vance is up to, and snitches to Jon that Vance is targeting him and wants him out next. She suggests to Jon that the two of them pretend to have a fight tomorrow to pretend to play into his plans. Says the two of them should avoid talking to each other so Vance will think they're on bad terms and won't suspect anything.

Letty goes downstairs and gets Jet in on the plan. Jet says he likes it. Suggests that the two of them avoid making plans in the main rooms since people keep strategy-snitching over TTS. Says directly to the camera that any further strategy-snitchers will get banned and lose all their tokens.

Total recall on the vancepill! Violetta saw right through it. She acted so convinced I thought for sure she was buying it.
 
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I assumed Letty would turn on Jon. It's been an interesting turn of events. I started to distrust her after the first cage event where she tried to bargain with Vance after Hog left.

It's pretty sad that Letty is the only one who really tried to be Jon's friend and he threw her under the bus the first time the "cool kids" paid any attention to him.

Can a ho be loyal or she will get revenge by throwing Jon to the wolves?

The last few days I've liked Jon less and liked Letty more. I don't have clear choice for who I want to win as long is it isn't Dam, Vance, or Hog.
 
@stink rink @Enig thanks! damn, what a shame. Way to got to ruin the goodwill and the sympathy people have toward you. I wonder if he just didn't feel like doing it, or if he was scared to do it for some reason.
Talking about Jon not being schizo right?

His story seems to fluxuate between:

  • because of his morals and he thought it was disrespectful.

  • because he knows schizos irl and they just act normal and you would never know they're schizo

  • because he wouldn't do as good a job as Vance

it seems like maybe theres another issue he isnt willing to talk about...like not wanting to look stupid or possibly something else
 
Talking about Jon not being schizo right?

His story seems to fluxuate between:

  • because of his morals and he thought it was disrespectful.

  • because he knows schizos irl and they just act normal and you would never know they're schizo

  • because he wouldn't do as good a job as Vance

it seems like maybe theres another issue he isnt willing to talk about...like not wanting to look stupid or possibly something else
I think Jon has a strong sense of self respect, and doesn't want to make an ass out of himself on the internet (ironic considering how often he does so unintentionally). I don't think he realizes that you can act dumb while still being in on the joke, and come out of it without people thinking less of you, the way Vance did during his schizo act.
 
Curious how many of the "master plans" end up sticking and we end up with either Letty or Vance coming up with a "master-master-master-master-master-master-master-master-master-master plan" with someone that inevitably blows up because the plans just became to mastery.
 
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They added social links to Lettys about page, seems like she is going to try streaming after this is done
Curious how many of the "master plans" end up sticking and we end up with either Letty or Vance coming up with a "master-master-master-master-master-master-master-master-master-master plan" with someone that inevitably blows up because the plans just became to mastery.
These schemes are all for nothing because they are probably going to throw Sylvia out anyway for being massively unpopular.
 
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These schemes are all for nothing because they are probably going to throw Sylvia out anyway for being massively unpopular.
Without intervention Sylvia would definitely be going out next. Still, everyone knows she's the weakest link (Vance straight up said she isn't a threat, Letty wouldn't directly shit on Sylvia but still implied it), and certain other contestants are on thin ice (like Jon for refusing to do today's challenges). That's why people like Vance are trying to take out more competitive contestants early so they'll have an easier time later.

The thing is, that all hinges on Sam/Jet not changing the rules or just eliminating unpopular contestants unilaterally. There's a very good chance they'll cave to retards in the audience and rig things to the route they think is more entertaining, which would ironically just make things boring again.
 
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