Florida man wins women's poker tournament, sparks debate over male inclusion in female sporting events - Dave Hughes, 70, took home more than $5,500 for the victory.



A Florida man drew ire over the weekend when he entered and won a women’s poker tournament at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in the Sunshine State.

Dave Hughes, 70, entered the $250 no-limit Texas Hold’em event with a prize pool of up to $17,450. Of the 83 competitors to enter the tournament, 82 of them were women, and the last one was Hughes. Hughes ended up defeating Dayanna Ciabaton at the end and take home $5,555, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

Hughes was allowed to enter the women’s tournament as Florida casinos are prohibited from banning men from entering women’s tournament, according to anti-discrimination laws. The newspaper noted that Nevada casinos have a similar rule. The World Series of Poker’s Ladies event has a $10,000 buy-in tournament, and women receive a 90% discount in hopes of keeping men from entering.

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A video from Hughes’ time at the tournament on Saturday was posted to Twitter. Some players put a bounty on him, which rewards a player for eliminating him. The bounty went unclaimed.

"Good luck, not really," the woman in the video can be heard saying.

The issue of a man playing in a women’s tournament sparked a debate.

"I love ladies-only poker tournaments. I would have no problem with them having a men's only and I wouldn't enter it as I would not qualify for it," Poker Hall of Famer Linda Johnson said, via Poker News. "I would have no problem if they had a tournament for 26-year old, motorcycle riding, Mohawk-haircut seniors and I wouldn't enter it because I wouldn't qualify.

"I don't think men should play in ladies-only tournaments. That said, I think there is a total overreaction to the few man (sic) who do enter. They are usually looking for attention, so why give it to them? Maybe we should just ignore them and play our best. This is just my two cents and you are welcome to your own thoughts on this."

Charlie Carrel, a British poker player, also weighed in on the issue in a tweet, saying initially that it was "hilarious that he won."

"It pokes fun at the idea that anybody can identify as a woman and be allowed to enter women's spaces," Carrel continued.
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"It's a real issue that people are taking advantage of in many different areas, including sports, prisons and changing areas. This has lead to some horrific repercussions (female inmates being raped in prison, or women getting destroyed in MMA fights by somebody who spent 95% of their life as a man).

"It does suck that it comes at the expense of the women's only space. I wouldn't do it, even though I probably share the same criticisms. Female only spaces in poker are really needed. Mixed poker can often be absolutely horrendous environments for women to be a part of.

"The trans issue is a lot easier to handle in poker, as the stakes are relatively low. The difference between male and female players is negligible enough that the incentive for men to join women's spaces isn't really there.

"It does speak loudly to the insanity that's playing out on a larger scale."
 
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this is a pretty funny turn of events since Poker is an entirely mental game with no physical advantage whatsoever, even a machine can play it. Yet there's something psychological that makes you feel like it's unfair to see a man beat every woman in a competition. It's similar to when that guy won a woman's chess tournament.
 
This is a retarded argument retards bring up every fucking time, and every fucking time it's as retarded as always.

Women's "intellectual" events are meant to promote the activity among women. When a hobby is unfashionable among women for cultural reasons, there are fewer female hobbyists and vastly fewer female hobbyists that are any good, which is obvious to everyone whose brain isn't overheated by basic arithmetic. Whether such promotion is desired or virtuous is massdebatable and depends on the activity, but at least with poker it's not done because women are retarded, it's done because women aren't retarded enough to be into fucking poker.

To illustrate, car racing (muh penis reactions) was popular among young female socialites a century ago. Many women won and placed high in open races. A woman motorist (with a male cameraman) was the first person to circumnavigate the world by car. Where are the female drivers now, why aren't they competing in open races? It isn't fashionable anymore, isn't glamorous, so the rich large adult daughters aren't doing it, and the poor women are too poor. (It seems the Great Depression started the decline and WW2 dealt the killing blow; Margaret Jennings won [women's] Circuit of Ireland in 1950 despite having retired 16 years before.)
While I don't disagree, you could just go the Reddit self-flagellation route and say that women don't play poker because men are toxic pigs and women don't feel safe.

 
Go Florida man!

Pozrate my neghole, but aren't women's sports there to make up for physical stature?

Poker is just... poker. It doesn't need a single sex league, as much fun poking trannies is.

Perhaps it was unfair and he had way more experience. Don't underestimate the old timers. Now hand me my chips and get the hell of me lawn!
 
This is sort of the same deal as in Chess.

Chess is a game largely of mental memorization. Yet the top players in chess remain men. Same is true in poker and bridge. The top is occupied largely by men because men are obsessed/autistic/psychotic enough to want to learn every aspect of a particular game and become the very best at it even when there are no physical components (other than the brain) involved.
 
This is sort of the same deal as in Chess.

Chess is a game largely of mental memorization. Yet the top players in chess remain men. Same is true in poker and bridge. The top is occupied largely by men because men are obsessed/autistic/psychotic enough to want to learn every aspect of a particular game and become the very best at it even when there are no physical components (other than the brain) involved.

Women can compete at that level, but they tend to be in the minority of personality types in Women. So you end up seeing a top level open team that look like this.

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Women thinking they can win at POKER against a man, fuckin' hilarious.

Four women in a car are the most dangerous thing on the road, because they have to look at each other's expressions while they talk to each other. It's one big facial tic. How they gonna win at poker?

EDIT: And the motherfucker looks like Shaggy from Scooby-Doo. Rugh-Roh!
 
How is poker or racing unfashionable among women for cultural reasons? Is this something in Europe?
blaming nebulous ~cultural reasons~ is just the standard playbook when it comes to feminists coping about why women largely can't compete at anything without relying on massive political pressure to fix the outcome in their favor.
from chess and video games to poker and motorsports, it's the same pattern everywhere
 
blaming nebulous ~cultural reasons~ is just the standard playbook when it comes to feminists coping about why women largely can't compete at anything without relying on massive political pressure to fix the outcome in their favor.
from chess and video games to poker and motorsports, it's the same pattern everywhere
I think I remember that show Naked and Afraid splitting the men and women up into camps.

At the end of the day the men had rigged up a makeshift shower, had water boiling, a hut with serviceable accommodations.
The women were catty to each other, bitched, moaned, scrawled with sticks in the dirt and finally had to appeal to the men becasue they had no water, no shelter, no sleeping area and NO FUCKING FIRE.

Yeah I know it's reality TV but it seemed pretty much on the fucking money.
 
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