🐷 The Killstream General Discussion Thread - Discuss Ethan Ralph's stagnant Killstream and his appearances on other shows.

[Drama Fan]

Ehhh.

For anyone that AA works for, awesome. Congratulations.

It weirds me out a bit, personally.

Generally speaking, I think it’s misguided to plead to God to intercede in personal matters. Goes back to the “footprints in the sand” judeo-motivational art from the 80’s.

You’re sitting there begging “please God help me to not drink this beer I’m currently opening and hoisting toward my face” and God is like “dude, we’ve been through this. I’ve taken care of the backend already; you just need to stop making this be about MY failures because definitionally, they don’t exist. If you drink the beer, you’ll suffer. If you don’t, you’ll improve. The rules of the game are already set up so this is the case, now you just do your part.”

The spirituality aspect of it creeped me out until I read Infinite Jest, then I understood it. It's not about something interceding as much as believing. Belief that you have something to be accountable to and which can help you resist what seem like insurmountable urges because you've thoroughly rewired your nervous system to believe you NEED booze or whatever else. By the time you hit rock bottom, you've connected your addiction with so many facets of your existence that triggers tempting you to drink are frequent and unavoidable. AA emphasizes this in that it's explicit that it doesn't matter what you believe in, just that you have blind faith that ultimately you can live a sober life. This just happens to come easier wrapped up in a higher power because humans are instinctively prone to religious thinking. It's a tool that helps more people than these groups would help without it and their goal is really utilitarian- get addicts out of addiction. The real theological or philosophical truths of existence really aren't the goal, and it's not like people who are that fucking down in life are really likely to contribute to either of those fields of thought anyway.
I'd highly recommend the book to anyone who can stomach reading a 1000+ page book. It's one of the few modern books I consider a masterpiece and despite it being a bit intentionally confusing at first, it comes together and (obviously for something that long) has a lot more thematic stuff going on than just addiction/AA.

 

[Shush]

From Mondays stream
Xanax Plan:

Tug:

Ralph is struggling with the betrayal of his wife and it's affecting his show. Since he's committed to winning her back, it may help lift his spirits to reminisce on all the good times they had together as a reminder of what he's fighting for.

 

[heathercho]

Tbf, he is sounding more like the Ethan Ralph of old, but that's nothing that spectacular, nor will it last. At least his words are actually making sense.

Ralph, you're almost sentient!

 

[John Andrews Stan]

AA kind of takes that away from people. Sure, “you have to do the work,” but all success will be attributed to God, and that implies so ought failure.

Everything you’ve said about 12 Step programs ITT makes it obvious you don’t know much about addiction or recovery. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not to their own facts.

Spoiler

The point is for the addict to internalize the fact that their own best strategizing is what led them to being a miserable addict. Once they have the humility to acknowledge that, they can stop trying to “figure it out” and instead just look to recovered addicts to see what worked for them. That requires direct interaction with recovered addicts — for many this is the first genuine human interaction they’ve had in their lives.

This helps them learn not to rely on substances but on that which makes for a more serene, sober life: keeping your side of the street clean, helping others, and knowing that if there is a God, it ain’t you. Or in the words of a prescription written by the co-founder of AA, Dr. Bob: “Clean house, trust God, help others.”

Cleaning house comes first because what we do influences what we believe. AA is a program of action, not sitting alone having deep thoughts about the nature of personal responsibility.

All that said, I don’t care much whether AA passes your intellectual tests. I’d just ask you to reconsider discouraging addicts from turning to an option that has helped millions of people extract themselves (and their families and employers) from the horrors of active addiction. It’s not helpful.

If Ralph finds a seat in AA, he should hang onto it for dear life. Millions of people die before they get a chance to make it to a meeting. It would be very Ralph-like to throw that shot away, so I’m not holding my breath.

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Everything you’ve said about 12 Step programs ITT makes it obvious you don’t know much about addiction or recovery. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not to their own facts.

Spoiler

The point is for the addict to internalize the fact that their own best strategizing is what led them to being a miserable addict. Once they have the humility to acknowledge that, they can stop trying to “figure it out” and instead just look to recovered addicts to see what worked for them. That requires direct interaction with recovered addicts — for many this is the first genuine human interaction they’ve had in their lives.

This helps them learn not to rely on substances but on that which makes for a more serene, sober life: keeping your side of the street clean, helping others, and knowing that if there is a God, it ain’t you. Or in the words of a prescription written by the co-founder of AA, Dr. Bob: “Clean house, trust God, help others.”

Cleaning house comes first because what we do influences what we believe. AA is a program of action, not sitting alone having deep thoughts about the nature of personal responsibility.

All that said, I don’t care much whether AA passes your intellectual tests. I’d just ask you to reconsider discouraging addicts from turning to an option that has helped millions of people extract themselves (and their families and employers) from the horrors of active addiction. It’s not helpful.

If Ralph finds a seat in AA, he should hang onto it for dear life. Millions of people die before they get a chance to make it to a meeting. It would be very Ralph-like to throw that shot away, so I’m not holding my breath.

Ok, there are hairs to split between alcoholics and opioid addicts, and I sort of don’t care about alcoholics as much. They function or they stop functioning.

But overall, in general, this conversation reads to me like “this is why people molest children.”

I don’t care, it just seems like it would be in everyone’s best interest if they died.

 

[The Fountainhead]

Ralph is struggling with the betrayal of his wife and it's affecting his show. Since he's committed to winning her back, it may help lift his spirits to reminisce on all the good times they had together as a reminder of what he's fighting for.

Look, Ralphy - everybody knows you're just a fat bag of scum who wallows in shit. Like Nicky, you're a con artist and always have been. You're a liar, a cheat, and a grifter. You're ONLY road to redemption is to quit America First and then denounce it and its founder. So quitting drugs and alcohol is not enough. You must beg for forgiveness. Beg. Maybe even squeal like a hog.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

From Mondays stream
Xanax Plan:
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Tug:
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Ralph is struggling with the betrayal of his wife and it's affecting his show. Since he's committed to winning her back, it may help lift his spirits to reminisce on all the good times they had together as a reminder of what he's fighting for.
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He sounds much more coherent. I think he is genuinely attempting to get clean, but more out of a desire to prove he can, and to bait Meigh back, rather than a real desire to better himself as a person. He won't be able to be clean but he will probably make an effort to not be quite as sloshed on stream, at least for the near future.

 

[Anonanon]

So now that Ye24 is milo controlled will he still blast that garbage?

 

[AncientPhosphur]

So now that Ye24 is milo controlled will he still blast that garbage?

If Ralph didn’t burn bridges with Milo there would have been a good chance Ralph could’ve met Kanye and a VERY good chance Ralph would have gotten an interview with KANYE WEST on the Killstream instead of asking groypers to check their couches for loose change for tacos and Xanax. That would’ve managed to save Ralph’s dying career.

Well done Ralph you picked the wrong horse, again, bigly! Hope you enjoy Cozy and Fuentes and that pedophile Ali instead of hanging with Milo and Kanye West!

 

[Elmo]

Look, Ralphy - everybody knows you're just a fat bag of scum who wallows in shit. Like Nicky, you're a con artist and always have been. You're a liar, a cheat, and a grifter. You're ONLY road to redemption is to quit America First and then denounce it and its founder. So quitting drugs and alcohol is not enough. You must beg for forgiveness. Beg. Maybe even squeal like a hog.

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Ralph could do that but then he'd have nowhere else to stream. Kick, you say? I strongly doubt his days are long for there but who knows.

 

[Not Even Twice]

Tbf, he is sounding more like the Ethan Ralph of old, but that's nothing that spectacular, nor will it last. At least his words are actually making sense.

Ralph, you're almost sentient!

The problem with that is, the Ralph of old was boring and stupid. He relied on having guests that were fun to listen to and staying out of it. When he started running out of guests, drunk and pilled up Ralph took over and became the entertainment instead.

A sober, solo Ralph is about as interesting and entertaining as a sore throat.

 

[Johnny Doxville]

A sober, solo Ralph is about as interesting and entertaining as a sore throat.

Given recent Keffals related events does that mean he's also fatal to troons?

 

[Sumptinsfuckey]

The problem with that is, the Ralph of old was boring and stupid. He relied on having guests that were fun to listen to and staying out of it. When he started running out of guests, drunk and pilled up Ralph took over and became the entertainment instead.

A sober, solo Ralph is about as interesting and entertaining as a sore throat.

Yeah, thats what Ethel never got, he was never the entertaining part of the show back in "the good old days". He was just the delivery mechanism for the entertainment. Even when he fully became a drunken, pilled up rage piggie, he was only as entertaining as those he was afueding with, and only when he had enough energy to do stupid shit. And now, with his whole "Imma neu mann" sthick he's even less entertaining than ever.

 

[.iota.]

Given recent Keffals related events does that mean he's also fatal to troons?

speaking of, petition to change the third thread poll option to "they should just fuck ... in rehab".

 

[Savage Randy]

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Well, he never mentioned the quality of said pussy.

 

[Punished Lobsterchu]

He sounds much more coherent. I think he is genuinely attempting to get clean, but more out of a desire to prove he can, and to bait Meigh back, rather than a real desire to better himself as a person. He won't be able to be clean but he will probably make an effort to not be quite as sloshed on stream, at least for the near future.

He has to get meigh back. The alternative is child support drama 2.0 and he can (not) afford. I doubt NY's family court will be easier than Cali's and Ralph literally couldn't afford the wizard game.

I doubt Ralph has the mental fortitude to get clean. He'll do the wigger thing and posture about it until it kills him.

 

[GuntPatrol]

He sounds much more coherent. I think he is genuinely attempting to get clean, but more out of a desire to prove he can, and to bait Meigh back, rather than a real desire to better himself as a person. He won't be able to be clean but he will probably make an effort to not be quite as sloshed on stream, at least for the near future.

On his first stream back in Mexico, when he was discussing his plan to quit drinking (and how successful he's been at weening himself down to 0.5mg of Xanax), he mentioned that he also plans on quitting weed... just as soon as he finishes his last bag. I don't think that bodes well for his long-term sobriety. The trap he seems to be setting for himself is that as soon as he starts to make a little bit of progress, he's going to be tempted to celebrate and reward himself by backsliding. It's just like when he dedicated himself to getting in shape after the falling out with Metokur. Eating healthy and exercising lasted maybe a week (if that), and now he's fatter than ever.

 

[NewnameRealEmail]

On his first stream back in Mexico, when he was discussing his plan to quit drinking (and how successful he's been at weening himself down to 0.5mg of Xanax), he mentioned that he also plans on quitting weed... just as soon as he finishes his last bag. I don't think that bodes well for his long-term sobriety. The trap he seems to be setting for himself is that as soon as he starts to make a little bit of progress, he's going to be tempted to celebrate and reward himself by backsliding. It's just like when he dedicated himself to getting in shape after the falling out with Metokur. Eating healthy and exercising lasted maybe a week (if that), and now he's fatter than ever.

As someone who smokes weed every day and has quit weed multiple times, that is hilarious. If you ever feel the need to smoke the last of what you have you are not going to quit. If you truly want to quit weed you can put it away in the dresser drawer and deal with a few hard nights of sleep.

 

[AnOminous]

A lot of resort towns, hell even cruise ships have AA groups on them. They aren't often advertised as a AA group meeting though, usally something along the lines of "Friends of Bill W" will be somewhere on a activity schedule.

It's not really available to all people but it probably makes sense if you get off drugs or booze that you should probably try to do fun things to fill what the bottle used to fill.

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He actually looks much better in that picture than he does now. Like a dorky nerd kid some slightly open-minded girl could find cute.

If he had self-respect he would not be EOR Edit: Imagine getting a chance like EOR had after he went to jail, he legitimately could have made at least some changes and not end up where he is now.

Right after he got out of jail the last time he actually looked like he could turn the corner. He wasn't being a nonstop asshole all the time, was at least relatively sober, and was actually at the top of his game.

 

[Fslur]

9th step Ralph would be an amazing arc

Wonder if that is why he made amends with Rekieta? Ralph making amends with everyone he’s wronged he’d have to admit to doing wrong in the first place. He should definitely ask for forgiveness of the mothers of his children. After all he doesn’t like it when people talk about his mother, yet he does far worse things than talk about his kid’s mothers.

If he actually took the steps seriously he would see he is his biggest alog. His enablers are a close second. Can Ralph take a break from self harming and to actually try to heal? At least not cause any more harm especially for his children.

This is just a show to get his pony back in it’s stable though. (Prove me wrong and ask everyone for forgiveness do all the steps, actually take it seriously)