Opinion Why Are Americans So Negative About the Economy?

May 15, 2023, 7:00 p.m. ET

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Traders on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange in May.Credit...Brendan McDermid/Reuters

By Paul Krugman
Opinion Columnist

Almost a year has passed since the Bureau of Economic Analysis announced that the U.S. economy had contracted for two quarters in a row. Some people believe, wrongly, that two quarters of falling G.D.P. is the official definition of a recession. Economic negativity ran rampant, especially but not only on the political right.

The interesting question now is why, at least according to some surveys, the public remains very negative on the economy — as negative as it has been in the past amid severe economic downturns — even though those recession calls were clearly a false alarm, and the economy is actually looking remarkably strong. Or maybe the question should be why people say that they’re very negative on the economy.

This is a touchy subject, albeit one I’ve commented on before. You don’t want to say that Americans are stupid; you certainly don’t want to sound like that John McCain adviser who insisted that America was a “nation of whiners” who were experiencing only a “mental recession.”

On the other hand, there are now huge gaps between what people say about the economy and both what the data says and what they say about their own experience. And we have some new information on what lies behind these gaps.

First, about that much-hyped “Biden recession.” The actual definition of a recession involves several economic indicators, and aside from those G.D.P. numbers, nothing that has happened to the economy looks remotely like a recession.

Since December 2021 the U.S. economy has added almost six million jobs while the unemployment rate has fallen from 3.9 percent to 3.4 percent, a level not seen since the 1960s. And no, unemployment isn’t low because Americans have dropped out of the labor force: The percentage of adults either working or looking for a job has declined, but that’s almost entirely a result of an aging population, and labor force participation is right back in line with prepandemic projections.

And these are good jobs, according to workers themselves. According to the Conference Board, which has been surveying job satisfaction since 1987, “U.S. workers have never been more content.”

To be sure, the return of serious inflation after decades of quiescence rattled everyone, and not just because it reduced real incomes. (Real wages fell during Ronald Reagan’s second term, but people felt pretty good about the economy anyway.) One benefit of low inflation is that it gives people one less thing to worry about; according to the American Psychiatric Association, inflation was a major source of stress during 2022.

But inflation, while still elevated, has come way down. The inflation rate over the past six months was 3.3 percent, compared with 9.6 percent last June. The price of gasoline, a major political talking point last year, is now more or less normal compared with average earnings.

And people have noticed. In October, 20 percent of Americans named inflation as the most important problem facing the nation; that’s now down to 9 percent.

So what’s going on? The general rule seems to be that Americans are feeling good about their personal situation but believe that bad things are happening to other people. A Federal Reserve study found that in late 2021 a record-high percentage of Americans were positive about their own finances while a record low were positive about the economy. We don’t have results for 2022 yet, but my guess is that they’ll look similar.

Partisanship surely explains much of this divergence. A newly published study shows that who holds the White House has huge effects on views of the economy; this is true for supporters of both parties, although the effect appears to be about twice as strong for Republicans. The study also finds, however, that these changes in reported views don’t appear to have any effect on actual spending — that they reflect “cheerleading,” as opposed to “actual expectations.”

Beyond that, there’s good reason to believe that media reports about the economy have had a strongly negative bias. One thing that has gone really, really right in America lately is job creation, yet the public consistently reports having heard more negative than positive news about employment.

And let’s not let economists off the hook. As Mark Zandi of Moody’s Analytics points out, many economists have been predicting recession month after month for the past year. Sooner or later, a recession will no doubt happen, but as he says, “In my 30-plus years as a professional economist, I’ve never seen such recession pessimism,” even as the economy has remained resilient. And this pessimism has surely filtered through to the public.

So where does all this leave us? America hasn’t yet brought inflation back to prepandemic levels, and we may yet have an economic hard landing. But so far, at least, we’ve had a stunningly successful recovery from the Covid shock.

While many Americans tell surveys that things are terrible — which says something about how people respond to surveys and where they get their information — this doesn’t contradict that positive assessment.

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Paul Krugman is a gaslighting cocksucker who deserves to spend the rest of his days mining uranium in chains.

I guess I'm just misinterpreting my own opinion when I notice that I'm paying double for groceries that I was when Trump was president.
Some people believe, wrongly, that two quarters of falling G.D.P. is the official definition of a recession. Economic negativity ran rampant, especially but not only on the political right.
That is what the definition has always been. It's what it was when Bush 43 was in office. You don't get to move the goalposts just because your guy now has power, you perfidious pedophile kike.

Lemme guess, you won't be counting the layoffs, bankruptcies, and bank failures either, because those things are also just misinterpretations of us stupid peasants, and that you, the Experts™️, know better for some reason you can't explain in plain English?
Since December 2021 the U.S. economy has added almost six million jobs
Jobs weren't added. This is only a slow restoration of the roaring Trump economy that you and your WEF masters murdered.

And much of it is people having to work two jobs. But I wouldn't expect a slimy oligarch like Krugman to understand what the peasants do.

I'm no-shit hyperventilating and sweating at this article. Burn in hell, Krugman, you lying Christ-killer son of a whore.
 
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Since December 2021 the U.S. economy has added almost six million jobs while the unemployment rate has fallen from 3.9 percent to 3.4 percent, a level not seen since the 1960s. And no, unemployment isn’t low because Americans have dropped out of the labor force: The percentage of adults either working or looking for a job has declined, but that’s almost entirely a result of an aging population, and labor force participation is right back in line with prepandemic projections.
Wow, it's almost like I don't give a shit about this. Whether the unemployment rate is 70% or 4% matters not to me because I have a job all the time. What matters is whether I can afford the cost of living with my job. And you say that gas prices have "normalized", have they? It's almost back up to $4.00 a gallon where I live. In 2020, it was always between $2 and $3 a gallon. And by the way, the rate of inflation coming down doesn't change that inflation is still positive. Even if the gap in prices between this month and last month is lower than the gap in prices between October and November, the gap is still there. Food is already too expensive and it's getting more expensive every month.

Try and pose your numbers however you like, they won't sway people who actually have to spend money.

"The number of people who cite inflation as their number one concern is down from 20% to 9%".

Yes, that's not a sign that shit has gotten better, it's a sign of defeatism. "The beatings shall continue until morale improves".
 
Yes, that's not a sign that shit has gotten better, it's a sign of defeatism. "The beatings shall continue until morale improves".
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And don't forget: Paul Krugman got away with having child porn on his computer.
 
I'm not really one to do the Early Life thing, but it is there. However, I think there's something telling in early life section that is more interesting.

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Notice that reference to psychohistory, and how Krugman went into economics because it didn't exist? In Asimov's Foundation, psychohistorical research eventually leads to the rise of a small clique of Illuminati-esque scientists who plan to run society through psychological manipulation and brainwashing of the social elite. What Krugman is saying here is that he quite literally was interested in becoming a member of a totalitarian, socially-manipulative class. What a fucking freak.
 
Because 2016 - Present has really opened a lot of people's eyes about just how many words spoken to them in earnest are complete lies.

They simply don't believe you, no matter how many polls you conduct claiming the opposite, or how many numbers you twist to the point of breaking to justify your master's talking points. They know it's lies, even if they can't point to why exactly.
 
>Krugman

Opinion immediately and disrespectfully discarded, though remembering this same op-ed in 2007 is worrying to say the least.
He's up there with Kramer as economic anti-prophets.
Wrong, stalker, he was just early in predicting Honeycomb.io Field CTO Liz Fong-Jones' insatiable need for rape:
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More than that, the Dollar Tree is now a Dollar and 25 cent tree!
you're fuckin' lucky, dollar general or whatever now as "and up" shit, and there's crap in there that's like $5 wtf

honestly the dollar menu thing is the thing that hits people the hardest, americans are fatasses and like eating out, and that has gone up tremendously noticeably
 
Motherfucker, I'll tell you why I'm negative. Inflation has made renting an apartment near impossible, yet we're sending billions to Ukraine with no end at sight.
honestly the dollar menu thing is the thing that hits people the hardest, americans are fatasses and like eating out, and that has gone up tremendously noticeably
I forgot there WAS a dollar menu. Hell, buying a donut at Dunkin used to be 99 cents. Now it's $1.29. But when I point that out, I don't know squat about the economy. I know how much stuff costed 4-5 years ago.
 
Wrong, stalker, he was just early in predicting Honeycomb.io Field CTO Liz Fong-Jones' insatiable need for rape:
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An eternity ago he came to my university to give a talk and it is hilarious how tilted he gets over that freezing cold take being brought up.
I legit think he was more upset about that than another student essentially calling him a Goldman Sachs toady.
 
An eternity ago he came to my university to give a talk and it is hilarious how tilted he gets over that freezing cold take being brought up.
I legit think he was more upset about that than another student essentially calling him a Goldman Sachs plant.
It's almost like it puts his entire life in perfect perspective for anyone paying attention: willing to say the most retarded things as long as the pay is right.

And he knows it.
 
Sure, the bread shortage isn't ideal, but the peasants can just eat cake, so I really don't see what the problem is.

Everything is more expensive, often substantially so, and walmart(at least the one in my area) still frequently has random shortages of basic foods. I don't care that inflation rate is slowing. I want it to stop entirely so I can still afford to buy basic stuff with it, but that would require the money printer to stop going brrr, so that is obviously out of the question.
 
I'm not an economics expert, but once inflation starts, you cannot get out of it.

What makes me mad is around six or so months ago, the thought of "inflation" or "recession" were "right wing misinformation points". NOW, they're admitting what we already foresaw and knew.

One does not need to be well versed in economics to realize that gas, groceries, and cost of living has steadily increased while your net income remains the same. If you're lucky to still have your job.
 
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