Indiana Jones & the Dial of Destiny - Using time travel to literally retcon the series

[FatMebius]

Are the plot spoilers that were posted online still likely to be true? Are they really gonna erase Indiana Jones from history and replace him with some random woman? If so then I'm eagerly anticipating the salt that will flow once the movie's actually out.

John Williams said they called him back to re-work parts of his score since they were shooting a new ending. Shouldn't come as a surprise there. I mean. Not a soul spoke highly of the test screenings.

 

[TVB]

John Williams said they called him back to re-work parts of his score since they were shooting a new ending. Shouldn't come as a surprise there. I mean. Not a soul spoke highly of the test screenings.

Heh, Disney's gonna dump it to the point where its gonna fail again. Disney keeps losing each year for making godawful decisions.

 

[Adamska]

My guess is they're going to still replace Indy, but they're gonna make him the sidekick rather than wiped out of the timeline. Because yes of course that's better.

Either that or they double-downed. You'd be shocked at how delusional and insistent on committing financial suicide "entertainment" is nowadays.

 

[TVB]

My guess is they're going to still replace Indy, but they're gonna make him the sidekick rather than wiped out of the timeline. Because yes of course that's better.

Either that or they double-downed. You'd be shocked at how delusional and insistent on committing financial suicide "entertainment" is nowadays.

Just like how Phoebe did with James Bond in No Time to Die. She is a talentless hack who makes the likes of Max Landis, Craig Mazin, Christina Hodson, Alex Kurtzman, Damon Lindentof, Geneva Robertson-Dworet, Ehren Krueger, Evan Daughtery and Jeremy Slater all look like the Coen brothers by comparison.

 

[Optimus Prime]

My guess is they're going to still replace Indy, but they're gonna make him the sidekick rather than wiped out of the timeline. Because yes of course that's better.

Either that or they double-downed. You'd be shocked at how delusional and insistent on committing financial suicide "entertainment" is nowadays.

I can guarantee the time travel is still involved - the film supposedly takes place in the 60s, but the latest trailer has Ford and whatshername jumping out of a HE-111 with Luftwaffe markings.

The HE-111 was out of German service in 1945, for obvious reasons, so there simply wasn't a single Luftwaffe marked HE-111 in flying condition in 1960.

That's in addition to the still unexplained part about Roman Centurions alongside old Indy and whatshername in the same shot.

IIRC the "Indiana Jones" D+ series got canceled, which removes the need to kill the real Indy, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if they still try to pull a fast one by having Indiana retire at the end of the film and whatshername pops up at the end with a very heavy implication she takes up the Fedora. Mutt's fucking dead in Vietnam, after all.

 

[Uranus Pink]

For a war that a bit over 58 thousand die out of little more than 2.7 million Americans had been in Vietnam. Hollywood makes it seem America lost millions of men during it. As it can't do any movie or TV show set during it without X number of characters from it going to Vietnam and getting killed there.

Couldn't be original and have Mutt die doing anything or nothing any where else like Western Europe, Japan, Africa, South America or somewhere on duty in the U.S. if they're so hellbent on killing him off.

 

[Mega Black]

For a war that a bit over 58 thousand die out of little more than 2.7 million Americans had been in Vietnam. Hollywood makes it seem America lost millions of men during it. As it can't do any movie or TV show set during it without X number of characters from it going to Vietnam and getting killed there.

Couldn't be original and have Mutt die doing anything or nothing any where else like Western Europe, Japan, Africa, South America or somewhere on duty in the U.S. if they're so hellbent on killing him off.

It's the war we all universally agree on being a tragedy and generally a huge waste of life so they play that angle up for drama. Cynically, it's a great way to write a character out off screen without making it weird they disappeared or making them look like a coward.

Anyway, the latest round of "this is Kathleen Kennedy's last chance!" Copium is already doing the rounds on Twitter. I wish faggots would realize that this wretched cunt isnt going anywhere already.

 

[Cnut]

Just like how Phoebe did with James Bond in No Time to Die. She is a talentless hack who makes the likes of Max Landis, Craig Mazin, Christina Hodson, Alex Kurtzman, Damon Lindentof, Geneva Robertson-Dworet, Ehren Krueger, Evan Daughtery and Jeremy Slater all look like the Coen brothers by comparison.

That is like saying Hillary Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

No offense.

 

[TVB]

That is like saying Hillary Clinton is worse than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao.

No offense.

Admittedly, I've gotten carried away as there are worse screenwriters than Phoebe. Still, she's an awful screenwriter.

 

[The Nothingness]

Another L could be on the horizon for Disney.

 

[Flaming Carrot]

The movie is currently sitting at 38 percent fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. No confirmation if Phoebe Waller Bridge takes over, but the critics seem to agree the movie is pretty bland and has some terrible CGI. Even some of the positive reviews aren't super enthusiastic. It cost Disney at least 300 million to make this, so they have to make a ton of money in order for this to even make a slight profit.

 

[AStupidMonkey]

 

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Another L could be on the horizon for Disney.
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Isn't this supposed to be set in the 70s? Literally nobody talked like that back then. Not even hardcore Indian activists who'd do shit like block roads and occupy Alcatraz since they'd never use the pedantic term "indigenous people." Or did the Dilator of Destiny help transplant modern American racial Marxism back 40 years?

 

[TVB]

Isn't this supposed to be set in the 70s? Literally nobody talked like that back then. Not even hardcore Indian activists who'd do shit like block roads and occupy Alcatraz since they'd never use the pedantic term "indigenous people." Or did the Dilator of Destiny help transplant modern American racial Marxism back 40 years?

It's just modern writers shoehorning in their jaded leftist identity politics. Basic 2010s onward IP writing 101.

 

[Michael Wade]

The movie is currently sitting at 38 percent fresh on Rotten Tomatoes. No confirmation if Phoebe Waller Bridge takes over, but the critics seem to agree the movie is pretty bland and has some terrible CGI. Even some of the positive reviews aren't super enthusiastic. It cost Disney at least 300 million to make this, so they have to make a ton of money in order for this to even make a slight profit.

Wow...... This is going to be a disaster. I was mildly, MILDLY hopeful they could make something decent if they reshot the ending but jeeze not even the paid shills can carry this things water.

I might watch it later (without paying a dime) but this feels very malicious and spiteful. They didn't need to kill shia's character.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Another L could be on the horizon for Disney.
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"Yep, robbed from the Nazis too. Or do you not know what indigenous means?"

 

[TVB]

Apologize.

@Raging Capybara keep coping nigger, I liked it.

 

[Tasty Tatty]

I don't think KotCS is that bad. It's nice to have some of that happen on my side of America for once and I've personally seen those elongated skulls all my life in school books, documentaries, museums, etc.



There are so many crazy theories about what they are despite the official explanation, so what's one crazy, fun theory more?

Am I the only person who liked Shia's character from the last movie?

I would have liked him being the new Indiana Jones.

I think he was ok and represented the time where the film is set pretty well. He wasn't some adventurer like Indy, just a normal "tough" guy. I can see how they let the idea of him being the next Indy open, but honestly, I see him more of a sidekick than the main character of any adventure.

My question is, after so many years working under Lucas and Spielberg on the original series, what the HELL did they do to KK to make her hate them to point that she is hell-bent on destroying their greatest creation?!

She's a woman and she can't help being a woman.

Whenever I've seen kids play, boys will always say "I'm Superman!", "I am Spider-man!", or "I'm Goku!". I've been seen kids say "I'm Messi!" when playing football. With girls, it's different. Some will do the "I am Wonder Woman!" part, but when there is a lack of more characters, they create new ones. That's why you have the Mary Sue trope. Some girls will say "I'll be Indy's sidekick", but other insane ones won't say "I'm Indy", but "I am Ludovika Fantastica McGuffenzco-Groberthenst, the super smart and capable doctor scholar archeologist philosopher who's gonna be better than Indy!" Kennedy's that type.

Yep, you can use this to say that there is a reason why we need more female characters, but the problem is that most current female characters created are DUMB and MEDIOCRE and they cater to old women rather than to young kids who want to play pretend. Not many six years old kids would say "I'm Wanda and I'm obsessed with a TV shows that aired 40 years before I was born and I'm going into an adventure to rescue my kids!" They just want to pew-pew the bad guys too and have cool costumes.

I don't think a third round of Nazis is that far out of left field, given that a bunch came over for Paperclip, or fled to South America. A lone Nazi trying to get his hands on a mythical, powerful item, while just a rehash of both Raiders, and Crusade, does make sense. Maybe they could have done the Nazi teaming up with the Soviets to get revenge on America? Maybe he convinces them to fund his expedition for this weapon? Maybe he double crosses his commie handlers and decides to keep the thing for himself? Who knows, but, regardless, the Nazi part doesn't bother me. What does is the lazy time travel bullshit, where the old, respected male hero dies, to get out of the way for a heckin' girlboss to come in and girlboss everywhere, completely upstaging him in every way. I can't wait to get scolded for calling her a Mary Sue. It's all so tiresome

Because SCIENCE™. The three OG movies were about religious artifacts: one was Jewish, one was Hindu, another one was Christian. KotCS had a commie obsessed with science who dies when she asks to become the smartest person. I honestly don't know why people didn't like this part, it fit well the many films and stories of this time, tbh. Aliens made her head explode because he was a bitch, they knew she was bad. It's not necessarily "religion", but the theme was the same: human trying to abuse a Higher Power and exploit it for their sake gets their comeuppance.

This movie hasn't made the rounds enough to have people saying "ACSHUALLY, she was the good guy because she wanted to get knowledge and was pro-science". She was also a communist, so that's an extra bonus for them. We live in a time where people don't want to learn about comeuppances anymore, specially about science.

If this is really the final Indy movie, then it'd make sense for them to return to the first movie. The government is keeping the Ark "safe" until Nazi infiltration wants to take it back to restore their power. To do so, they need one more artifact they first need to find, something the Soviets have stolen. You have the two main enemies in one film. Our heroes need to first locate that artifact and take the Ark to safety. That's the adventure.

 

[TVB]

I don't think KotCS is that bad. It's nice to have some of that happen on my side of America for once and I've personally seen those elongated skulls all my life in school books, documentaries, museums, etc.



There are so many crazy theories about what they are despite the official explanation, so what's one crazy, fun theory more?

It's still a fun Indiana Jones movie at the end of the day. It actually feels more like a Tomb Raider game if anything (back in the day when it was good, considering the LAU trilogy was out at the time) and I'm ok with it. The biggest complaint I have is Shia LaBeouf was insufferable in this like he was in the first three Bayformers. Otherwise, it never deserved the hate because "muh George Lucas."

It's unsurprising that journos and general audiences can't even do research, especially in preparation to watching this. The whole entire point of Crystal Skull was due in large with skulls buried in the nuclear test sites during the early-50s Cold War. Typical. It's just an entertaining movie, and it will still be a breath of fresh air compare to the upcoming Dilator of Destiny.

 

[Mr. Zed da Robot Poon Fed]

It's just modern writers shoehorning in their jaded leftist identity politics. Basic 2010s onward IP writing 101.

This. You look at the 70s, no one fucking talked like this. Even Native Americans didn't talk like this.