Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Once nukes are in the air no one will care about legalities; what would be the point? A trial at the Hague when the radiation dies down in a hundred years?
I should point out that the fillsile material used in nukes have a fast half-life, and the nukes will be used to airblast. You'd just have to stay in a bunker for a few weeks, maybe a couple moths if it's bad. the next election probably wouldn't even be delayed.
 
I should point out that the fillsile material used in nukes have a fast half-life, and the nukes will be used to airblast. You'd just have to stay in a bunker for a few weeks, maybe a couple moths if it's bad. the next election probably wouldn't even be delayed.
Let me guess: the earth is flat too. An EMP would just be the first sign of an impending nuclear exchange, its not the goal. The material released by any nuclear explosion decays into different isotopes with very long half-lives, which can and do emit gamma radiation, the worst kind.

So no Fallout larp.
 
Let me guess: the earth is flat too. An EMP would just be the first sign of an impending nuclear exchange, its not the goal. The material released by any nuclear explosion decays into different isotopes with very long half-lives, which can and do emit gamma radiation, the worst kind.

So no Fallout larp.
How long do you think Nagasaki, which is currently a thriving city, was uninhabitable for?
 
No. I am thinking that they used NATO trucks in hopes of sparking outrage from the Russian people and pressuring the Russian leadership in to doing something dumb in response. Just look at the russian (iirc) kiwi post above mine.
Yes is sounds like a retarded plan, and yes it seems like Russia isn't going to take the bait. The invaders died and achieved nothing.

Think about it. If you where going to do this op and expected to actually get to a destination in Russia would you pick fucking hummers with white crosses on them? Or old soviet trucks with Z's on them that are so common over there they are basically invisible? And to get those nato trucks to the east means you have to get them across the whole country from the west. Wouldn't it have just been easier to grab a few slavmobiles that are already scattered everywhere near the boarder?

Or maybe I am way off. Who knows. I just think the people who set this op up sent those guys there to die.
Well, Operation Greif used slightly modified German armored vehicles painted olive drab because the Jerries thought the GIs wouldn't be able to distinguish between German and American tanks. But this seems illogical because the Ukrainians have metric tons of Soviet equipment. Perhaps they planted bugs on those vehicles. Or hidden signal devices so they can locate and destroy the depot they'll be stored at. Or those social media/Reddit witches put spells on them to attract gremlins. Fuck knows... The only thing we can be certain of is that these Russians were sacrificed without batting an eye.
 
The PR? For who? The NAFO crowd on Twitter are cheering and smugging it up as usual, but they're always doing that, and will continue to find an excuse to do that even if a Russian flag were flying over Kiev by the end of conflict.
Apparently it's PR to distract neutral parties from the Ukrainian loss of Bakhmut. In regards to Bakhmut:

Wagner boss Prigozhin reveals casualties sustained by Wagner Group PMC in Battle of Bakhmut​

We fought in Bakhmut against superior forces, destroyed about 50,000 Ukrainian Armed Forces and wounded up to 70,000. - Yevgeny Prigozhin
  • Wagner PMC had 3.2 times fewer dead than the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU), and about 2 times fewer wounded.
    • Deceased Wagner PMC operators: 15,625
    • Wounded Wagner PMC operators: about 35,000
  • During the operation, Wagner PMC chose 50,000 prisoners, 20% of them died, another 20% were injured.
    • Deceased Wagner PMC convicts: 10,000
    • Wounded Wagner PMC convicts: 10,000
  • This means most of the deceased Wagner PMC operators are prisoners (10,000/15,625) and less than a third of injured PMC operators are also prisoners (10,000/35,000).
Some stuff I don't understand much:
  • According to Prigozhin, Wagner Group PMC had 50,000 people at its best in Bakhmut, and the AFU - 82,000, and the ratio for the assault should be 3 to 1 for the attackers.
    • Both Wagner PMC and the AFU deployed less troops in Bakhmut than the number of casualities sustained by both sides in Bakhmut. I think this is either a translation error or that Wagner inflicted 120,000 casualties on the AFU in the whole Bakhmut offensive (including Soledar), which includes most of the 82,000 troops of the AFU that was deployed inside Bakhmut.
    • The ratio 3:1 means that Wagner PMC keeps outnumbering the AFU in their assaults throughout Bakhmut meaning that most of the AFU they are fighting inside the city already perished, maybe to artillery shelling.
As a result, Prigozhin stated that Wagner PMC completed their objective by destroying the efficiency of most AFU brigades that were deployed into Bakhmut.
The goal of Artemovsk (Bakhmut) was not Artemovsk (Bakhmut) itself, but the Bakhmut Meat Grinder. And in Artemovsk (Bakhmut), we destroyed everyone we were supposed to destroy, we completed the task. - Yevgeny Prigozhin
Here's the archive where you can make your own conclusions: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/tRn2I

DPR head Denis Pushilin visits Bakhmut​

The head of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR) Denis Pushilin has visited the city kitted out with armor and a modified AK-74M (I think) rifle. He raised the flag of the DPR tricolor containing the words "Donetsk Republic" with the white double-eagle on one of the buildings in Bakhmut, of which was the flag of the DPR from 2014 to 2017 before it simplified to just a tricolor.

Archive: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/dTHsQ
 
Most likely a pr stunt for the politicians. It was too small for anything realistic.
 
I honestly don't understand your logic here at all. You think the fact that the infiltrators were using donated NATO vehicles is somehow going to act as a causus belli to drag NATO directly into the conflict? Am I understanding you correctly? Because that's... not how that works.

I am curious though what Ukraine's high command thought the worth was in throwing dozens of men and several vehicles away in a doomed attack like this. The PR? For who? The NAFO crowd on Twitter are cheering and smugging it up as usual, but they're always doing that, and will continue to find an excuse to do that even if a Russian flag were flying over Kiev by the end of conflict. Their soldiers? If I were a Ukrainian soldier, any morale boost that might have been gained from this operation would have be more than offset by the realization that my commanders would send me to certain death for a quick propaganda story. I just don't understand what they were going for here. Maybe they genuinely thought they could seize the strategic missile base?
I think they were raiding for supplies, myself. They're short on ammo and US logistics are late and gay. They fell back too fast when they encountered Russian defenses. Whether they succeeded is unverifiable to us, but it definitely was not a sustained attack meant to capture territory or remove Russians from their defenses.
 
How long do you think Nagasaki, which is currently a thriving city, was uninhabitable for?
How do you suppose you clean up most of the earth's habitable surface when there's nowhere that isn't irradiated?

You don't clean that shit up from an already irradiated position. You decontaminate it from an already clean area. Unless you think the nuclear equivalent of getting off of work to go shower in a septic tank is a workable idea?
 
They are mentally ill

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