Liz Fong-Jones / Elliot William Fong / @lizthegrey - 'Consent accident' enjoyer, ex-Google employee, nepotistic sex pest, Robert Z'Dar look-alike who wants authority over the Internet

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Also keep in mind that it's Elliot himself who asked people to be his judge regarding the rape allegations/consent accident.
And if that results in consequences for him, then they very well may be consequences he deserves.
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Every time I re-read this I am struck by the utter self-serving nature of LFJ's comments on the situation.

LFJ presents this as a "neutral" recounting of what he elsewhere characterized as a "consent accident."
  • There is no discussion of how, having known each other for years (and especially in the hypersexual existence that Lizelliot lives), this sensitivity was never known to LFJ: [victim] "did not say so" - because of course it only counts if explicitly stated at that moment even if known before...idk, Liz, did you specifically ask if they were hyper about dog hair? That would be an equally dumb expectation... but did you or did you not?, bc goose/gander.
  • There is no information about the other person's statements on the point of whether Elliott knew or should have known of that sensitivity.
  • There is no apology.
  • There is no acknowledgement of any deficiency whatsoever in LFJ's own conduct.
  • There is an implicit suggestion that the other person is at fault.
"all I want here is...for both of us to heal from this" (emphasis added)
  • It's such a sneaky sideways insult to suggest that you, the accused person in a self-described "consent accident," have been equally harmed by the person whose boundaries you violated.
  • On second thought, not "equally harmed"; more harmed, yet oh-so-very generous in allowing the other person's experience to be acknowledged (while simultaneously ridiculing it).
The gaslighting and undermining is classic. Take whatever position you want on trans things, but LFJ was clearly raised as a certain kind of entitled boy.

LFJ is not stupid in the purely intellectual sense, and in fact is quite specific and exacting when it comes to language. LFJ's statements on the "situation" suggest that despite harm caused, there is no culpability because "accident"; however, even if truly an "accident," that in itself means that there was a wrong.

Calling it an accident in one breath and then laying out facts that all point the finger at the injured party is the height of hubris and disingenuousness.

May the ancient Greeks, Shakespeare, and countless others have been right in outlining the arc for tragic heroes (and yes, LFJ is the "main character" in the world as LFJ sees it) afflicted with hubris as hamartia (tragic flaw) ...because the result for hubris-bearing tragic heroes is nemesis, aka, "poetic justice."
 
Elliot William Fong is a fucking RAPIST.
Perhaps. But LFJ'S statements are precisely the kinds of statements and weasel-words that get prima facie credible assertions doubted to the point of dismissal all day, everyday - and for far more black & white allegations than "I had a dog hair phobia and that person went ahead and sexed me anyway, knowing they likely had dog hair on their person."

My point was that LFJ's comments are disingenuous and revealing of a personality that is perfectly comfortable hanging a victim out to dry, while pretending to be "neutral" in order to seem like a good guy gal guy who dindu nuffin. And that arrogance of the sort demonstrated by LFJ is the type of thing that has for thousands of years been understood as deserving of a dramatic fall from grace, at a minimum. Late and old, but felt like parsing.

Tbqh, since we don't have the victim's side of the story, there's no way to evaluate what went down. But LFJ's own self-serving statements give enough of a flavor - by virtue of what they do/do not say, and how - to surmise that LFJ knows that the victim has a valid complaint of some sort, and that LFJ did indeed violate another person in the context of their interaction. And if it is the case that LFJ possesses that level of hubris (particularly with the added context of obsessive and wrongheaded actions against the KF), I hope that LFJ is hoist with their own petard and enjoys all the outcomes the ancients warned against.

Elliot’s tweets about the consent accident are very calculated to deny culpability and to attack his accuser. It basically boils down to Thwomp to saying its her fault he raped her.
Lol, thanks - much more succinct.
 
Tbqh, since we don't have the victim's side of the story, there's no way to evaluate what went down. But LFJ's own self-serving statements give enough of a flavor - by virtue of what they do/do not say, and how - to surmise that LFJ knows that the victim has a valid complaint of some sort, and that LFJ did indeed violate another person in the context of their interaction.
It's fairly easy for me. People like Elliot like to scream "BELIEVE ALL VICTIMS!!o11!1!!1!N1ONOENOENOENE" so I am just going to take their advice on this one. Usually I'd ask questions but in this case I do what they want me to do and believe all claims against him.
 
It's fairly easy for me. People like Elliot like to scream "BELIEVE ALL VICTIMS!!o11!1!!1!N1ONOENOENOENE" so I am just going to take their advice on this one. Usually I'd ask questions but in this case I do what they want me to do and believe all claims against him.
"People like Elliot" don't care about actual victims, or about women (or "women"), or the intersection of the two. That is one thing absolutely clear from the comments made LFJ.
He is a rapey rape guy. Wherever he goes, he must also rape.
Oh, you!
 
Is Elliot ever anything less than a credit- and status-obsessed turbocunt?
I believe there's an unwritten rule that anyone who chest-thumps about performing a charitable act hasn't actually performed one.

Everything LFJ does is for show and to demonstrate how much power (whether real or perceived) they wield, so it would follow that any act LFJ performs with seemingly good intentions is less about charity and more about presenting a good public image... while at the same time being willing enough to break the internet with scorched earth tactics to keep unflattering details about them from seeing the light of day.
 
Do we have any receipts of Elliot doing anything to delete the dog-hair person's account?
Who is dog-hair person?

The way I see this situation right now is that it is a little plausible the way Elliot described it.

Two trannies fuck and one spergs out because they're ticking time-bombs high on hormones and other drugs.

From my personal experiences with trannies (just over text and vc alone) every single one I interacted with is incredibly unstable, blowing up at the tiniest "infraction" to the point where I actively avoid every person with pronouns in their bio.

Dong-Gone deserves all the ridicule for his description of the "consent accident" and the very transparant attempt at putting all the blame on dog-hair person.
As per usual, the concept of accountability is foreign to trannies.

In either case, the way of his conduct and his active constant attempts of censorship also makes it very likely that there was more to this story.

If it is true the way Dong-Gone has presented it then the most logical thing would be to encourage Dog-Hair person to come forward with their account of the consent accident.

If there is nothing to hide then there is no reason for secrecy and censorship, right?

These people are essentially celebrities and view themselves as such, it was their wish to put this much of themselves out there.

Until more is known I can only call him an alleged rapist.
 
Do we have any receipts of Elliot doing anything to delete the dog-hair person's account?
Who is dog-hair person?
A few people have mentioned that it’s possible that the original accusations never surfaced because they were never made public in the first place. And I can definitely see how that might be the case — it’s quite possible that they were made semi-privately to multiple people and since it was making the rounds, Elliot decided to be an idiot and address it publicly on Twitter. (‘Cause let’s face it, narcissistic cows like him never think anything they do will ever backfire on them.)

But on the topic of evidence, I’d like to revisit the fact that Elliot is on the board of (and considering his recent post about charities, likely a large donor to) a company called TallPoppy.

TallPoppy’s website makes it sound like they mostly provide services and resources to companies in regards to employees getting doxed and harassed. And considering that Elliot is on the board and that Zoe Quinn of all goddamn people is listed on their site as an advisor (a) (not to mention the glowing reviews from Ellen Pao and Anita Sarkeesian on their main page) I’m going to hazard a guess that “doxing” and “online harassment” often means “I did something shitty and now everyone’s finding out about it”.

One thing that stuck out to me is that there’s a blurb on their site (a) about getting their clients’ information removed online:
Get your employees’ personal information off the internet.

Shady companies sell their email addresses, phone numbers, physical addresses, names of relatives, and more to potential attackers. Our team will get those companies to take that information off the internet.

Yeah, it’s framed like what they’re doing is removing people’s data from things like leaks and mailing lists, but reading between the lines and in the context of everything else on that page, it sounds like TallPoppy‘a business might be scrubbing online reputations. You can hire them to dig up as much online dirt about you as they can, and then they offer you another service where they can make that dirt go away.

In other words, Elliot is on the board of (and likely has donated funds to) a company that’s at least partially in the business of wiping unwanted information off of the internet for people who are receiving some kind of backlash. Combined with what we know about him using threats and going after people’s loved ones to get service dropped to KF, I’m going to hazard a guess that Dog-Hair Person is has been given the internet equivalent of cement shoes and has been sent to sleep with the fishes.
 
Don't forget Leigh Honeywell, the CEO and co-founder of Tallpoppy
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She claims that she was raped by Jacob Appelbaum over the course of 2006 and 2007!
But she only came forward with that story about 10 years later in June 2016. It also reads like a copy-pasta :story:
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In that same article Leigh also claims that you should believe victims!
(and educate yourself and give money)
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In one of the comments user Oli thanks Leigh for doing this and also wonders why a safeword had to be used in the first place.
Leigh mentions that it has to do with kink (notice a pattern) and the details aren't important.
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Leigh and Paul in 2008, a year after she was raped by Jacob Appelbaum:
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Leigh replying to Jacob Appelbaum's (ioerror) tweets in 2009-2010. so 2-3 years after she was raped by him:
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I also mention her and Tallpoppy in this post. Feel free to have a look:

These are the people who often have a dark history to hide and decide who's a rapist and who's not.
 
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She claims that she was raped by Jacob Appelbaum over the course of 2006 and 2007!
But she only came forward with that story about 10 years later in June 2016.
To add some context to this: Appelbaum was thrown out of the Tor project after getting accused of rape by a bunch of people around 2016. The entire board of directors resigned over this, too. A lot of these accounts imploded later, but not before Appelbaum was kicked out - I specifically remember that one account's author didn't even know that her story was added to the site hosting the accusations and claimed that it got exaggerated. They tried to get Daniel Bernstein too, but that didn't end up working. Fun fact: The guy acting like a mongoloid in the replies is musl libc's Rich Felker, who is otherwise pretty sane. The tech industry really is tiny.

The situation was sketchy as fuck, but it's pretty hard to track down all the sources nowadays.
 
In other words, Elliot is on the board of (and likely has donated funds to) a company that’s at least partially in the business of wiping unwanted information off of the internet for people who are receiving some kind of backlash. Combined with what we know about him using threats and going after people’s loved ones to get service dropped to KF, I’m going to hazard a guess that Dog-Hair Person is has been given the internet equivalent of cement shoes and has been sent to sleep with the fishes.
Sounds also like an extortion racket "Look we found all these nasty information about you. surely you want to get rid of it? Now please pay us some cash or do us some favors" I would love to have a look at their databases just to see if they perhaps store said information to use it as leverage later on
 
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