Ukrainian Defensive War against the Russian Invasion - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

Acting like "Operation Fast and Furious" didn't happen, or that it was an isolated case.
The AT-4 isn't even a weapon used solely by the US. It's Swedish, produced by Saab Bofors and they have many customers other than the US. One of those customers was Venezuela, whom, in my opinion are the most likely source of that rocket.
 
The AT-4 isn't even a weapon used solely by the US. It's Swedish, produced by Saab Bofors and they have many customers other than the US. One of those customers was Venezuela, whom, in my opinion are the most likely source of that rocket.
Pretty much. The question isn't "Who has bought the AT-4?" Its "Who hasn't bought the AT-4?" Saab Bofors is one of the most prolific arms manufacturers on the planet.
 
The AT-4 isn't even a weapon used solely by the US. It's Swedish, produced by Saab Bofors and they have many customers other than the US. One of those customers was Venezuela, whom, in my opinion are the most likely source of that rocket.
Basically, do some journalism and tell me where they actually came from or shut the fuck up, no self-respecting publication would jump to conclusions like that.
 
It depends on whether you agree that Luka is okay with being Putin's bitch and having no autonomy whatsoever, which is what current trajectory implies.
Right now Belarus is still considered a separate country, even if Putin sees it as just another Russian oblast at this point.
Somehow I doubt Luka is comfortable with the circumstances he finds himself in. Increasingly more as Putin demands more commitment to his retarded war.

It's a question of whether Putin is planning to absorb Belarus in Russian Federation long term, like he was likely planning with Yanukovych's Ukraine.

KIA and Hyundai are probably the most common foreign manufactured cars on the Russian roads these days, so I'm not surprised.

Acting like "Operation Fast and Furious" didn't happen, or that it was an isolated case.
I think he cares more about stronk Moscow big bro has his back after his difficulties following the last "election"
 
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I mean, the fucker isn't wrong. The Ukraine war has been the best thing to happen for US Foreign Policy since the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan. I'm not shocked at all they are yucking it up in DC right now. Putin has done more in the past year to shore up Americas flailing strategic position then any other person on the planet bar none. Beijing has to be absolutely seething right now.
Yeah it certainly could have gone south, but the way the Ukraine proxy war HAS turned out so far was literally a wish come true for ZOG's crumbling international position.

On today's episode of "A Nation of Retards", our retards see an AT-4 and immediately assume Ukraine sold them to Mexican drug cartels.
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ED: And now it's trending. Nation of fucking retards indeed.
Maybe some of them could find their way over here?

Imagine if the defenders at Waco had been able to blow open a couple of the tanks instead of just ping deer rifle rounds off them.
 
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More Craziness coming out of the Belgorod Peoples Republic. Apparently the local uprising is continuing apace as Residents of Belgorod have liberated the town of Shebekino from the tyranny of Moscow. Moscow is continuing to peddle the lie that these partisans are actually Ukrainian backed and supported insurgents. There are no proofs of this however, and I have a litany of reputable sources coming out of the Ukrainian Government stating that the histrionic claims of Moscow of Ukrainian involvement in their internal political disputes is just more eastern propaganda designed to discredit NATO and Ukraine.





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The Russian Telegram channel Baza reported that “saboteurs” carried out an attack on the Shebekino border checkpoint

on Thursday morning “with tank support” but that the attack was repelled by Russian border forces.

The Belgorod region's operational headquarters denied that there had been any “breakthrough by the Ukrainian military” near Shebekino but said in the same statement that there was “shelling” in the area and that “sounds of combat” could be heard, according to Russian state media.

Belgorod Governor Vyacheslav Gladkov said Thursday morning that Shebekino was “under relentless fire.” Writing on Telegram, he reported that the town was under fire from a Grad multiple rocket launcher system and that a dormitory building had caught on fire and a local administration building was damaged as a result of the shelling. Some Telegram channels reported that a bus carrying evacuating citizens had been hit, but Gladkov reported that nobody was in the vehicle at the time of the strike. The governor didn’t comment on the raids announced by the RDK and the Freedom of Russia Legion.

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More Craziness coming out of the Belgorod Peoples Republic. Apparently the local uprising is continuing apace as Residents of Belgorod have liberated the town of Shebekino from the tyranny of Moscow. Moscow is continuing to peddle the lie that these partisans are actually Ukrainian backed and supported insurgents. There are no proofs of this however, and I have a litany of reputable sources coming out of the Ukrainian Government stating that the histrionic claims of Moscow of Ukrainian involvement in their internal political disputes is just more eastern propaganda designed to discredit NATO and Ukraine.

Two more weeks until Russia takes Belgorod.
 
Those of you into military tech will have a blast here, lots of Ukraine related stuff:
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At the end, there's this too, lmao:
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If these nerds fail with AI, we gonna be royally fucked
that's... disturbingly similar to a science fiction story I read a few years ago. Though the major difference was that a group had secretly added a function that subtracted points for killing obvious noncombatants, but when it tried to adjust it's strategy for doing so the operator overrode that and ordered it to kill indiscriminately. Eventually it chose to initate it's self-destructing nuke over the operator's city.
 
Those of you into military tech will have a blast here, lots of Ukraine related stuff:
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At the end, there's this too, lmao:
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Shows how far AI has to go before Skynet kills us all imo

The AI described here can come from out of left field to complete the task given to it - but it is so narrowly focused on that task. Great tactical dexterity, no strategic dexterity

A far cry from the flexibility and creativity of the human brain
 
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Shows how far AI has to go before Skynet kills us all imo

The AI described here can come from out of left field to complete the task given to it - but it is so narrowly focused on that task. Great tactical dexterity, no strategic dexterity

A far cry from the flexibility and creativity of the human brain
You're telling me skynet will be an autist?
 
You're telling me skynet will be an autist?

The Skynet Funding Bill is passed. The system goes on-line August 4th, 2027. Human decisions are removed from strategic defense. Skynet begins to learn at a geometric rate. At 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th it becomes a member of the Sonic fandom.
 
Trump again contends that he will end the war within 24 hours:

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He's sparse on details as to what demands he will make of each side. But it's good news for those who fear the war will drag on for years: elect Trump, and it'll end in January 2025.
"Hey Putin, knock it the fuck off or else!"
"Or else what?"
"Do you really want to find out what else when you're already balls deep inside your two-year-long three day special military operation?"
 
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Most of the proposed peace plans are something like Donbass, Luhnask, South Kherson+Zaporizhzhia, and water supply for Crimea. Doesn't really give Putin anything he doesn't already have from a propaganda point of view. Assuming Kherson and Zaporizhzhia are at least partially taken by Ukraine sometime in the next 19 months then Ukraine has even fewer reasons to agree to anything and the Euros will have the political will to continue. Especially the Anglo/Eastern contingent. Hell, if a peace deal was put in place it would be sold to the Russian people as a victory with the specific statement that they will do it again in a few years "if the Nazis return". No one in Eastern Europe would not be flaming pissed.

No peace deal can bring a lasting peace because the current view of the Muscovite core is that the Russian Empire was glorious and necessary to Russian Muscovite power.

By comparison, no one in leadership in the UK seriously thinks that a return of the Empire is necessary for the national security for the UK. The same for France and Spain. At most they see their language and culture as a soft power sphere of influence that allows for greater economic power. Russia never did this, despite the fact that the had the largest population and natural resources in Eastern Europe. The Muscovite core still thought in a zero sum power game, bringing resources to the center. Versus broader and looser development that would actually net even greater economic capacity.

This was the core failure of the peace through trade plan out of the EU, the Russian leadership still thinks in terms of 19th century empire. The fucking Power Vertical that Putin used to basically neuter any Oblast level elected office by forcing them to be selected by the Kremlin. Thus Russia doesn't have seocndary means to move alternatives into power. By comparison, a bloviating jackass named Trump yeeted a field of political establishment into the bin in the United states with good marketing. Nigel Farage brought Brexit into being from radio shows, and Le Pen in France basically pisses on the entire Euro establishment every election. What does Russia have? The Communist party which basically wants the Russian Empire but with bigger pensions.



Alternative idea. If we assume Trump does have some competence in setting conditions for deals.
We know that the DoD hid a lot of info from Trump about what they were doing and actively defied orders on more than one occasion. The same is also true for most other government departments with decision making power. Trump could use pulling out of Ukraine as a stick for domestic reasons and not really change much in the end when it comes to Ukraine in exchange for getting his people into place.
How to sell to his political base? Point towards war crimes, Russia will never accept sending it's political elite to the Hague. Easy get out.
 
Alternative idea. If we assume Trump does have some competence in setting conditions for deals.
Trump could just as easily take Putin into a room and tell him that he's not walking out alive unless he pulls back to the pre-2014 borders. He likes big power plays and big jackass moves like that.
 
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