Unpopular views about music

Slav Power said:
Speaking of people who call other people "posers" because they like the wrong bands, anyone who denies acknowledging the talent of people like Joey Jordison, Paul Gray or Mick Thomson just because they play/played in a band that's "mainstream" and "not metal" are not metal fans, but rather autists that get high off their own farts.

Joey Jordison was a very talented drummer, and if you deny to acknowledge that fact just because he was mainly known for being in Slipknot you have no right to talk about talented drummers because you have the audacity to call a talented person shit just because of what they played and who they played with.

You're not judging them by their actual drumming talent and technique, you're judging them purely by the bands they played in and the popularity of those bands.
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Funny thing about Joey is despite being a great drummer, his guitar skills were under appreciated. Most of the bands he played with to fill in as a drummer, like Ministry and Satyricon, would give him high praises on his guitar work while touring together. Only band I know of he got to shine as a guitarist was Murderdolls.
 
I'm sick of the recent mallcore/mallgoth re-appraisal counterjerk that explosively emerged as of late. The initial post-ironic/new sincere poptimist/raptimist 'le ebin empowering BIPOC kween'/'migos is better than le beat(les)' wave of ~2014-onward was already bad enough. The successor (hottopictimism) was totally uncalled for.

The umbrella Buttrock/Nu-metal/Scenecore/Pop ''''Punk''''/Warpedcore/Mascaracore realm was more or less an incubation chamber of most everything sickeningly abhorrent, fake, trashy and reprehensible about the social climate of the 00's - and you just can't sensibly spin it in any other way with full sincerity. And I am especially tired of seeing retards like The Punk Rock MBA attempting to reframe/smear any and all criticism of these genres as 'classist' - like bro; it's not a fucking class issue lmao. Speaking as a poorfag myself; I see it as more of a prole vs lumpenprole angle.

Ironic how overemphasized the fetishization of 'Y2K revivalism' happens to be among hyperwoke Gen Z genderflakes - factoring in that all the machismo nu-metal sleezebags, brocore kiddies (and most every other cultural facet associated with turn of the millennium 'peaked in HS' types) - were the dudes who would have sadistically bullied and tormented your typical queerflake zoom.

But hey - I suppose having standards and listening to the niche & indie leaning stuff of the timeframe registers as 'too lame/cheugy' to them - or whatever the fuck that means.
 
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True and Honest Nibba said:
I'm sick of the recent mallcore/mallgoth re-appraisal counterjerk that explosively emerged as of late. The initial post-ironic/new sincere poptimist/raptimist 'le ebin empowering BIPOC kween'/'migos is better than le beat(les)' wave of ~2014-onward was already bad enough. The successor (hottopictimism) was totally uncalled for.

The umbrella Buttrock/Nu-metal/Scenecore/Pop ''''Punk''''/Warpedcore/Mascaracore realm was more or less an incubation chamber of most everything sickeningly abhorrent, fake, trashy and reprehensible about the social climate of the 00's - and you just can't sensibly spin it in any other way with full sincerity. And I am especially tired of seeing retards like The Punk Rock MBA attempting to reframe/smear any and all criticism of these genres as 'classist' - like bro; it's not a fucking class issue lmao. Speaking as a poorfag myself; I see it as more of a prole vs lumpenprole angle.

Ironic how overemphasized the fetishization of 'Y2K revivalism' happens to be among hyperwoke Gen Z genderflakes - factoring in that all the machismo nu-metal sleezebags, brocore kiddies (and most every other cultural facet associated with turn of the millennium 'peaked in HS' types) - were the dudes who would have sadistically bullied and tormented your typical queerflake zoom.

But hey - I suppose having standards and listening to the niche & indie leaning stuff of the timeframe registers as 'too lame/cheugy' to them - or whatever the fuck that means.
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I'm tempted to drown myself in the bathtub after reading this post because I have no hope of ever reading a more based take than this again.

How can it be "classist" if they have no class at all to begin with? 🤔

The Cunting Death said:
I said this in another thread, but Radiohead, while not bad (I own kid a on vinyl), are quite possibly the most overrated band to come out of the pitchfork generation.
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Sonic Youth is way worse in every regard, and I can prove it.

Ignoring the... political inclinations of some members of this forum,


Everything about this is so much worse, yet so much... Pitchfork.
 
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I think people are hating on Kpop because they see it as popular, and thus, wanting to be contrarian, they automatically hate on it.

Even though most of the songs are produced and written and composed by international songwriters and producers and then sold on. Same as the ones, Sony, Warner Music, Universal Music hire for their stuff.

Then Kpop fans interview the songwriters.

 
Senator Armstrong said:
Black and Death metal has no standard of quality, a friend and I did a "Black Metal" project where we used the shittiest tone possible and coughed over it, distorted the cough, and used a drum track off youtube and the elitists loved it. Metal elitism is about being sociable to a niche community, not quality. I like melodic or neoclassical metal usually because its harder to cheese that sort of thing, but I get why people like Nu Metal as it has no pretensions and it made to appeal to anyone and be catchy and I respect that in a way. Metal elitists should be called hipsters because its wbat they are.
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People who argue or judge over that shit will always be faggots. Ain't no way you're gonna argue logically that motherfucking Opeth has any more merit than something like Limp Bizkit.

On the topic of that as well as this thread, Pearl Jam is kinda overrated and Twenty One Pilots is overhated.
 
Senator Armstrong said:
Black and Death metal has no standard of quality, a friend and I did a "Black Metal" project where we used the shittiest tone possible and coughed over it, distorted the cough, and used a drum track off youtube and the elitists loved it.
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But that actually is the standard of quality for black metal. You did it right, that's why they liked it.
 
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Matt Damon said:
Only prog metal spergs will probably care about this one, but Dream Theater's much-lauded Scenes from a Memory is TERRIBLY mixed/mastered and nobody talks about it
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Are you insinuating that any of their albums don't sound like total shit? I really only like one or two of their songs, but that's in spite of the terrible "turn that reverb knob to 11" sound they have.
ManiacalChrisBenoit said:
I never understood their appeal. I was in HS when OK Computer came out, and was way into computers, and nothing.
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Just because it's called OK Computer doesn't mean anyone who uses a computer will like it lmao, I think that's referring to it's technological dystopian theme. It's their best album, but Amnesiac, Kid A, and In Rainbows have much better individual songs by far, those albums just aren't as listenable front to back.
 
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Jones McCann said:
Just because it's called OK Computer doesn't mean anyone who uses a computer will like it lmao, I think that's referring to it's technological dystopian theme. It's their best album, but Amnesiac, Kid A, and In Rainbows have much better individual songs by far, those albums just aren't as listenable front to back.
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Pablo Honey sucked though.
 
Jones McCann said:
Are you insinuating that any of their albums don't sound like total shit?
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I think most of their albums sound fine, loudness war shit notwithstanding. I don't have a problem with reverb, but I do have a problem with supposedly professional mixes that I'm quite confident I could improve on even with my mediocre engineering skill.
 
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Jones McCann said:
Just because it's called OK Computer doesn't mean anyone who uses a computer will like it lmao, I think that's referring to it's technological dystopian theme. It's their best album, but Amnesiac, Kid A, and In Rainbows have much better individual songs by far, those albums just aren't as listenable front to back.
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Isn't it fairly electronic though? Either way I wasn't sold on it. I will say Karma Police is a good song. Not sure if that's on it.
 
AnOminous said:
Pablo Honey sucked though.
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I've never heard that one before actually, but it has the magnum opus of the band: Creep. The only Radiohead song 99.9% of the population has ever heard.
ManiacalChrisBenoit said:
Isn't it fairly electronic though? Either way I wasn't sold on it. I will say Karma Police is a good song. Not sure if that's on it.
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Karma Police is OK Computer, it's a low point imo, the album peaks very hard in the first three tracks. Kid A and Amnesiac are electronic but not strictly, it doesn't really matter though it's still great music. In Rainbows is more soft rockish, I'm not even sure. They all have great openers that set the bar for the rest of the album.
 
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ManiacalChrisBenoit said:
Isn't it fairly electronic though? Either way I wasn't sold on it. I will say Karma Police is a good song. Not sure if that's on it.
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Yeah it is, along with Paranoid Android, another really good one.
Jones McCann said:
I've never heard that one before actually, but it has the magnum opus of the band: Creep. The only Radiohead song 99.9% of the population has ever heard.
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Yes, and heard so many fucking times they're sick of it. I don't even dislike the song itself, but I really don't need to hear it ever again.
 
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