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thegooddoctor said:
On an unrelated note I know we complain so much about LGBTQ rep and woke shit being shoved into cartoons now, but are there any good examples of LGBT characters in cartoons? it seems almost all of them are forced in some way.
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This entire episode of Courage was wildin' with what it was going for and presenting to kids:
 
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Kari Kamiya said:
If anything, I think the movie is an interesting piece of Illumination filmography in that it comes in between Despicable Me (and Hop lol) and Despicable Me 2 which was the moment (least for me) when you realize how sanitized and corporate-mandated their films are, further proving that the first Despicable was a complete fluke and had no right to be as good as it is, but there was legit something there in The Lorax that wasn't allowed to be fully realized due to the handicap of being a feature-length movie. Like I totally understand why it is The Once-ler got so fucking popular, he was kinda cute, but when he became the villain, he just slapped so hard and was so much more interesting.
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The ammount of wasted potential in The Lorax is always an interesting subject.
 
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Rome's rightful successor said:
The ammount of wasted potential in The Lorax is always an interesting subject.
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You know, it's weird that this was written by the same writers behind the CG Horton movie just four years prior, yet that movie surprisingly ages fine, and my god I still miss Blue Sky to this day. It's also worth noting that both movies contain respective obsessive fan communities on each character (in this case, Jojo for Horton and Once-Ler for Lorax)
 
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Bubbleline is what happens when you give the fans too much power through multiple interactions.
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(The post is over 10 years old now.)
 
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Back when the 90s goosebumps show was in pre production, fox considered making it an animated series. Part of me kinda wants to see what that would have looked like. Especially if it had stayed close to Tim Jacobus's art style when he drew the original covers.

90s goosebumps in animated form however would need a good studio working on it though, and just cause it was a fox kids show doesn't mean you'd get the same people behind batman tas or xmen 92.
 
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A Grey Cat said:
Back when the 90s goosebumps show was in pre production, fox considered making it an animated series. Part of me kinda wants to see what that would have looked like. Especially if it had stayed close to Tim Jacobus's art style when he drew the original covers.

90s goosebumps in animated form however would need a good studio working on it though, and just cause it was a fox kids show doesn't mean you'd get the same people behind batman tas or xmen 92.
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I honestly could picture an animated Goosebumps series being similar to something like Tales from the Cryptkeeper.
 
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Once Juan Now Ernesto said:
That's probably why they didn't make it animated. TFTC was already doing it. Plus, they were probably under a budget.
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And don't forget that it was cancelled after the second season had already aired on CBS' Saturday Morning block due to some standards and practices regulated onto children's television during the early-to-mid 90s, and was only brought back for a third season five years later on ABC's One Saturday Morning block before it got cancelled for good.

Given the situation that show was suffering from, I can also see why there wasn't a Goosebumps animated series for Fox at that time.
 
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TVBForever said:
TVBForever said:
I honestly could picture an animated Goosebumps series being similar to something like Tales from the Cryptkeeper
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Yeah true. Especially the game over episode. that one felt like it had goosebumps DNA in it, right in down to having a twist mr stine himself could have whipped up for any number of his books.

TVBForever said:
And don't forget that it was cancelled after the second season had already aired on CBS' Saturday Morning block due to some standards and practices regulated onto children's television during the early-to-mid 90s, and was only brought back for a third season five years later on ABC's One Saturday Morning block before it got cancelled for good.

Given the situation that show was suffering from, I can also see why there wasn't a Goosebumps animated series for Fox at that time.
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OK fair point too. That's why I say I'm glad we got goosebumps the way we did its definitely better from a historical point of view that we got the show we ultimately got. But I mean from a what if? Scenario i kinda wonder what a goosebumps animated series by fox done with the same attention and effort as say xmen tas or early batman tas would have turned out.


Imagine the Tim Jacobus cover of the haunted mask with its glowing yellow and red eyes, the jaws snapping the sharp teeth as drool drips from the mouth brought to life.. Or the scene of the unloved masks flying through the air with a perfectly drawn autumn night background. Calling out for Carly Beth to "love them."

Or imagine if we had actual imagery to go with the audio book versions, which had notable voice acting behind them including the future voices of the likes of Cindy vortex, invader Zim, and I think Adam west returned to voice the galloping gazelle for attack of the mutant. (I know he was the gazelle in the tv show we did get may he r.i.p)
 
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A Grey Cat said:
OK fair point too. That's why I say I'm glad we got goosebumps the way we did its definitely better from a historical point of view that we got the show we ultimately got. But I mean from a what if? Scenario i kinda wonder what a goosebumps animated series by fox done with the same attention and effort as say xmen tas or early batman tas would have turned out.
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Plus, I think a Goosebumps animated series could've benefit themselves from Fox's animation lineup. I mean remember, the network had shit like Allen Gregory or Son of Zorn (I know this is a different era, but still).
 
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Plus, I think a Goosebumps animated series could've benefit themselves from Fox's animation lineup. I mean remember, the network had shit like Allen Gregory or Son of Zorn (I know this is a different era, but still).
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How about: "If goosebumps was to get an animated series, back in the day Fox would have a done a better job by them than any other studio."

Which yeah. I'm not much of a goosebumps fan (though I sometimes liked their "kiddie-twilight zone" like show) but if you were to ask me, I'd say the 90s era Fox animation would have worked for them compared to a lot of others.
 
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