Inactive Audrey E. Hale / Aiden E. Hale - Troon Terrorist

[A Grey Cat]

Feels good to be validated. I called the injuries the day the video was released. I know too much about what bullets do to the human body.

Edit: this deduction was inaccurate due to the nature of the report using soft language to make hales injuries less severe then they are. It has not been altered.

So going by her three gunshot wounds, I'm guessing Audrey took the thigh hit meant to drop her with a slim chance she'd survive if they got her to am icu. She tried to tie the bleeding off with a tourniquet while continuing to fire out the window, as cops moved in when she refused to "stop moving" "as one body cam cop said. That's where the arm hit comes into play where she was shot to stop her from going for a pistol as it's a grazing wound. She then tried to use her other hand to go for a weapon and at the point the cops figured. "Fuck it, cunt refuses to listen time to break out the lethal force." And thus the death blow or headshot was delivered that is what ended her.

Takes a lot of nerve to not immediately jump to shoot to kill instincts when your a cop and not a soldier.

 

[Mister Qwerty]

 

[Otterly]

I'm a little surprised the toxicology report was completely clean. I was expecting some kind of psych meds in there, given the circumstances.

Does it actually check for that or did they just check for the regular illegal drugs and alcohol? Because this might be the first "mass shooter" who was neither black or hopped up on SSRIs.

The toxicology and drug screens are just standard ones. Opiates would be picked up and most of the amphetamine type drugs would too as in adhd Ritalin type stuff.
But they do t test for SSRIs or anything that’s not a potential drug of abuse / misuse. She may well have been on SSRIs or something else. Antidepressants, hormones, blockers, neuroleptics etc are not tested for as far as I can see on that report. That’s specialist testing, and drug s teens are generic stuff that a lot of labs do as routine
Those abrasions ‘scattered yellow abrasions’ on the left arm around the elbow. In a line. Track marks? Not sure why they’d be marked as abrasions but if it’s yellow it’s older, the blood in bruises breaks down and the green and other colours let you roughly age a bruise.

 

[FatalTater]

The autopsy for LaVoy Finicum also listed an unremarkable anus. I hate that I know this.

But to address the topic at hand, the manifesto still isn't being released?
A precious Trans person's final thoughts are being SILENCED?!
WHERE is the LGBT+ community on this! They should have been protesting 24/7 so that this stunning and brave person's manifesto could reach the world!
Obviously Audrey/Aiden/Whatever had an important message for us all!
TRANS RIGHTS FOR WHAT A TRANS WRITES!
Get that shit out there!
I'm bored, which is the true tragedy here.

 

[ForTheHoard]

So going by her three gunshot wounds, I'm guessing Audrey took the thigh hit meant to drop her with a slim chance she'd survive if they got her to am icu. She tried to tie the bleeding off with a tourniquet while continuing to fire out the window, as cops moved in when she refused to "stop moving" "as one body cam cop said. That's where the arm hit comes into play where she was shot to stop her from going for a pistol as it's a grazing wound. She then tried to use her other hand to go for a weapon and at the point the cops figured. "Fuck it, cunt refuses to listen time to break out the lethal force." And thus the death blow or headshot was delivered that is what ended her.

Takes a lot of nerve to not immediately jump to shoot to kill instincts when your a cop and not a soldier.

They used soft language in the report. The first round of AR fire severed her spine, ragdolling her lower body. They closed distance because her falling broke line of sight. As soon as the sight line was regained, pistol man opened up on her head and upper body.

Every round fired at her was an intent to kill, as it should be.

 

[Alouatta Simia Belzebul]

Didn't she post a couple of times on 4chan, that are further back here? so she chose not to upload her 'manifesto' when she could have. I think it is just her diary. Leaning towards the sexual abuse theory as well.

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

The toxicology and drug screens are just standard ones. Opiates would be picked up and most of the amphetamine type drugs would too as in adhd Ritalin type stuff.
But they do t test for SSRIs or anything that’s not a potential drug of abuse / misuse. She may well have been on SSRIs or something else. Antidepressants, hormones, blockers, neuroleptics etc are not tested for as far as I can see on that report. That’s specialist testing, and drug s teens are generic stuff that a lot of labs do as routine
Those abrasions ‘scattered yellow abrasions’ on the left arm around the elbow. In a line. Track marks? Not sure why they’d be marked as abrasions but if it’s yellow it’s older, the blood in bruises breaks down and the green and other colours let you roughly age a bruise.

the report specifically says there are no track marks, so im very unsure what those yellow abrasions would be.

i personally would like to know if they tested for testosterone. considering so far it was shown she didnt go through any of the other typical pooner things i wonder if she was even shooting up T? so far looking more like an aggressive lesbian than a pooner.

They used soft language in the report. The first round of AR fire severed her spine, ragdolling her lower body. They closed distance because her falling broke like of site. As soon as the site line was regained, pistol man opened up on her head and upper body.

Every round fired at her was an intent to kill, as it should be.

yeah im not sure what grey cat is on about, if you watch the video it is very clear the officers were shooting to kill. they had zero intention of shooting to wound.

Didn't she post a couple of times on 4chan, that are further back here? so she chose not to upload her 'manifesto' when she could have. I think it is just her diary. Leaning towards the sexual abuse theory as well.

im not sure, i know i remember seeing mention of a diary early on but now everyone just says manifesto. not sure if she just had a diary that we all are now calling a manifesto or if she had both or only a manifesto. the fact that the police arnt releasing anything just makes it very unclear on what exactly she had.

if she had a diary then i think it might be a bit more interesting than a manifesto tbh. it would give a lot more information about her private thoughts and her life more than a manifesto would.

 

[Rogue AI]

It's just sad that Audrey Hale is going to grow up to be some poor kid's boogie man. The manifesto needs to be released so everyone can laugh at this useless pooner. We've got an autopsy report detailing her matching underwear and socks, but no one wants to publish her manifesto and she was too stupid to release it herself. This just tells me that this manifesto puts Randy Stair's ghostfucking to shame.

 

[Procrastinhater]

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I mean, as an excuse for not releasing it, it's a doozy, if this is the play the Feds are going with.
Hard for people to argue "against the wishes of the grieving families" without looking like an insensitive asshole, which is exactly what makes me think this is sus as fuck, if this is even legit.

Feels good to be validated. I called the injuries the day the video was released. I know too much about what bullets do to the human body.

Yeah there was no attempt to wound here, Officer Rex took that Pooner down with extreme prejudice, I think it was clear its spine got cut by the way the Pooner just folded like cheap lawn chair.
At least we got confirmation she had an unremarkable anus.
Details are important.

 

[AgendaPoster]

autopsy for LaVoy Finicum also listed an unremarkable anus

It's medical speech in the US (I think) for saying that an organ that you are required to check during the autopsy is not medically relevant to the case/death. There's a lot of required routine in these events, that a medic has to chart through and document. These are legal documents too, so if you mess it up and not perform all the steps, for example if you don't check the coronaries and if the liver is cirrhotic or not, or if you don't weigh these organs so it can be determined if they are of the correct size for sex/age etc. and not pathological, you might just set some killer free inadvertently.
Unaware of all aspects, the legal medicine guys are kind of an isolated job from hospitals and general medicine.

 

[Procrastinhater]

It's medical speech in the US (I think) for saying that an organ that you are required to check during the autopsy is not medically relevant to the case/death. There's a lot of required routine in these events, that a medic has to chart through and document. These are legal documents too, so if you mess it up and not perform all the steps, for example if you don't check the coronaries and if the liver is cirrhotic or not, or if you don't weight these organs so it can be determined if they are of the correct size for sex/age etc. and not pathological, you might just set some killer free inadvertently.
Unaware of all aspects, the legal medicine guys are kind of an isolated job from hospitals and general medicine.

I wonder what the coroner would have said if she had a rotdog installed.

Rotdog was unremarkable with usual necrosis and had 3 fistula on the underside, partially covered with Unicorn tattoo

 

[Monolith]

It's just sad that Audrey Hale is going to grow up to be some poor kid's boogie man.

You might want to use a different monster, because she's no kind of man.

 

[Real Fakeman]

It's medical speech in the US (I think) for saying that an organ that you are required to check during the autopsy is not medically relevant to the case/death. There's a lot of required routine in these events, that a medic has to chart through and document. These are legal documents too, so if you mess it up and not perform all the steps, for example if you don't check the coronaries and if the liver is cirrhotic or not, or if you don't weigh these organs so it can be determined if they are of the correct size for sex/age etc. and not pathological, you might just set some killer free inadvertently.
Unaware of all aspects, the legal medicine guys are kind of an isolated job from hospitals and general medicine.

If the goatse-guy died and had an autopsy, would they measure and write expansively about his remarkable anus, even if it wasn't what killed him? You'd probably have to at least check, right? If the anus is that remarkable.

 

[A Grey Cat]

Every round fired at her was an intent to kill, as it should be.

Oh I agree if anything she got off too easy if she had lost feeling below her spine then it mean she had less or no pain there. If anything hale deserved to have pain as high a human can take before the mind completely breaks. Since we don't definitively know if she's suffering for all eternity in death.


It's been three months since I saw the footage and the soft language they use make no mention of the severed spine, I was basing this on what the report says I'm frankly glad they went for the kill. Thanks for the clarification thought.

 

[stupid frog]

>matching undergarments
>regular titty
>unremarkable anus
>called female in death

So this is a girl who just said, I'm a guy and was a guy. She did nothing but look ugly.
If she was out there having heckin queer tranny love, her anus would probably not be unremarkable.

I bet a large group of trannys will now cry she's not even trans (of course she's not, that's not a real thing) and say she isn't one. Just a crime sent to make them look bad. Etc.

 

[A Grey Cat]

You might want to use a different monster, because she's no kind of man.

Audrey hale will be the next baba yaga. From Britannica themselves: an ogress who steals, cooks, and eats her victims, usually children.

 

['Ole Dente]

Didn't she post a couple of times on 4chan, that are further back here?

If she did that's unsurprising. Let's not lie to each other here, there are few places to speak your mind on the internet and its been that way for years and years. We're all grateful it but it has the unintended drawback of attracting wackos who post their genocide screeds unironically. If it was permissible to do that everywhere, places like Reddit would become just as maligned.

 

[Russketeer]

When LEO uses deadly force there is no conscious choice of kill or wound they shoot to STOP THE THREAT which mostly means shooting center mass until the threat is no longer a threat, no more no less. It's a balance between not mag dumping into an obvious corpse and not shooting to wound or warn. Your rocking the CNS to stop the threat as fast as possible. Civilians defending themselves should operate this way too.

Exceptions to center mass (downward pointing triangle shape where your spine, heart, and lungs live) would be things like center mass isn't exposed or center mass hits aren't doing shit (body armor) then it's headshot time (I love me a good Jeff Cooper "failure to stop" drill). Two to center mass SLIGHT pause to assess the threat and one or two to the head, repeat till threat is stopped.

The results are variable so this is why you see the whole spectrum all the way from obviously mentally ill people who just won't put down that knife getting hit once in the gut surviving perfectly fine and going to the looney bin to drugged up monsters (with or without armor) getting peppered with dozens of rounds (surviving or not). The threat is stopped or it's not and shooting the CNS is the way to do it.

Audrey didn't put down the gun after the AR hit so she was hit with handgun fire until she wasn't moving and was no longer a threat. They handcuffed her to be sure she wasn't a threat and aid was rendered till she was declared dead. One of the most beautiful and bravest uses of deadly force I've watched.

Military shoots to kill (but Geneva convention makes things very weird, the types of rounds (hollow point) that are best at stopping threats are not allowed, they have to fling NATO ball at each other to make it "fair").

Deadly force doesn't mean you are shooting to kill it just means it's reasonable that the force you're applying likely would/could/should kill someone and you have no other choice but to use that level of force until the threat is stopped.

 

[SwanSwanson]

If she did that's unsurprising. Let's not lie to each other here, there are few places to speak your mind on the internet and its been that way for years and years. We're all grateful it but it has the unintended drawback of attracting wackos who post their genocide screeds unironically. If it was permissible to do that everywhere, places like Reddit would become just as maligned.

If only she used the farms! We could've saved her!

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

I'm a little surprised the toxicology report was completely clean. I was expecting some kind of psych meds in there, given the circumstances.

The 8041B tox analysis they did would not catch any psych meds except for ADHD meds. If she was on anything for depression, anxiety (unless it was a benzodiazepines), or she was taking an antipsychotic or male troonshine, it wouldn't have shown up.